bullet placement?

[johnf]

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and can state unequivocally that the lungs are NOT tied to the central nervous system.

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What makes them go then?

I know what you meant, I just couldn't help myself.

[Canadian_Goose]

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I would have to agree with shotist. I also shoot all of my deer in the lungs and most of them run 5-100 yds before they drop. Deer (especially bucks) are pretty tough, unless you do hit one in the CNS, chances of it dropping on the spot are not %100. Like john said he has seen a doe run well over 50 yds after a double shoulder shot, and I am going to have to assume that bullet passed through not only the lungs but most likely the heart as well. If it woulda been a higher shot the shooter would have hit the spine and dropped the deer instantly. But unfortunately since the lungs and heart are part of the respritory system and not the CNS , a clean drop is not always the case. I think you may just have a good gun and great luck my friend.

[Ravin R10 man]

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Dont know what you guys are doing wrong then... they ALL drop in their tracks for me!!

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SUCKER PUNCHED???..I beleive that is what a lung shot does. You guy's do what ya want..Im takin out the lungs

[Guest shotist]

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The only thing predictable about a deer is how unpredictable they can be.

Every one is different and has a different attitude about survival it seems. You can centerpunch one broadside, tight to the shoulder, just below center (dead center lungs) and it will buckle all four legs on bullet impact. The next one shot with the very same ammo in essentially the same place will run 75-100 yards (normal deer calibers, 2600-3000fps bullets). It seems that the calm deer are more likely to drop if I had to put a finger on which are more susceptible.

The only thing that will reliably take out the animal is to destroy the central nervous system prior to the shoulders as was pointed out earlier. When we cull deer, we empty the cranial cavity and the CNS is obliterated. They "go the other way" upon bullet impact. This is under controlled circumstances obviously and I do not otherwise condone brain shots by hunters. The high-shoulder shot is a higher percentage stopper for hunters.

When we field shoot deer for agg tags with .223's and 50gr Ballistic Tips, the first 5 may drop instantly on a double pneumothorax shot. The next 5 will run 30-40 yards. Everything forward of the diaphragm is emulsified and rarely does a bullet fragment make it out the far side (20yd-200yd shots). Some will run, but they never go far. They don't all die instantly, even though the lungs are shards.