nutz4bucks Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 i have a rangrfinder that does its job but the wife has taken it hostage(she took it because she hunts to not because she mad) been lokking at new ones and want to see what you realtreers think about the new "true ballistic" rangefinders. Confused i guess because of the fancy numbers and sorts that explain the operations of the unit. they(manufacturers) say the unit compensate for hills and angles of shots but to me the shortest way to point a to b is a straight line!!!!! isn't that what my current 200 dollar rangefinder does???? O.K. maybe i just answered my own question but want your imput on the latest toy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? The Leopold rangefinder with the true ballistics is an awesome rangefinder and for the money you cant go wrong ... it retails for 249.95 but I have seen it as low as 219.95 ... it is by far one of the best I have seen for the money ... Range finder even without the blaistic thing it is still a great range finder ... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? Rangefinders tell you the yardage (straight line)...the true ballistic added...it will tell what to "shoot" the target for depending on the angle. Since gravity works all the time...shooting uphill or downhill will change the point of impact compared to shooting on a level surface. Hope that makes sense. If your gun is sighted dead on at 200 yards (level ground) it will not be dead on at 200 yards shooting up a steep hill. Regular rangefinder will tell you its 200 yards...the other one knows its 200 yards...but compensates for the steep incline and tells you to shoot it for (just an example) 150 yards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? Thanks for that Snapper. I was not understanding the ballistic thingy they were pushing either. That makes porefect sense now. I did not know they were mid $200s. I am looking for one come thing spring and may be looking their way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? [ QUOTE ] Thanks for that Snapper. I was not understanding the ballistic thingy they were pushing either. That makes porefect sense now. I did not know they were mid $200s. I am looking for one come thing spring and may be looking their way... [/ QUOTE ] Ive done alot of research on them and for the money that range finder is by far the best bang for the buck and its made by leopold ... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEIOWAARCHER Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? I personally don't belive all that Ballistic BS. A bullet or arrow doesn't know the difference wheather it's going up or down hill. They fly on a flat plain at all times, with gravity slowing them wheather the land is flat or not. I had purchased RXII just to see what it was all about. 1st off it wasn't what I expected. Very low quaility. And a I know a few people from another forum that said the same thing. And if you do belive all the hipe, for bowhunting it really makes no difference. And at long range for rifles maybe there is something to it. I really wouldn't waste the money. Just get something easy to use and affordable. I personally would rather hunt than stand up in a stand worry about small differences in geometry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutz4bucks Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? Thanks snapper that makes alot of sense now.I didn't ever think of the "gravity"factor. i was under the assumption 200 yards was 200 yards but shooting up or down hill would change that looks like i will be adding the leupold to my arsenal of toys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? [ QUOTE ] I personally don't belive all that Ballistic BS. A bullet or arrow doesn't know the difference wheather it's going up or down hill. [/ QUOTE ] I guess its a good thing Iowa is flat then. Your bullets and arrows defy the laws of physics? I guess its because they never studied law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? [ QUOTE ] I personally don't belive all that Ballistic BS. A bullet or arrow doesn't know the difference wheather it's going up or down hill. They fly on a flat plain at all times, with gravity slowing them wheather the land is flat or not. [/ QUOTE ] Wow...you don't have to believe it if you don't want to...but it is true! The "flat plain" you refer to is going down as soon as the bullet/arrow leaves the barrel/bow. Gravity is pulling on the bullet/arrow from begining to end. Physics is physics...and gravity is gravity...so I'm sorry, your entitled to your opinion...but when your opinion defy's facts...your opinion is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? I live in Iowa and I just had this exact thing happen to me Sunday on that doe ... I shot under her ... straight across I shot her in the heart ... only thing I can attribute that to was the angle of the shot was different with the 30 yard verses the other ... I dont care if you dojnt put stock in physics ... but leopold make one heck of a range finder for the money ... that I can guarantee.... oh its also a 6x monoclular Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mountain_Dragon Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? Y'all have it mostly correct. I'm not an expert, so if someone finds fault in my analysis feel free to step in. Gravity will always, always pull a missile (whether it be bullet, arrow, or what not) down. Gravity, along with friction, will also slow a missile. Thus, once the missile leaves the launching mechanism, it will at once begin to slow and fall. Gravity has the same effect on the missile in a flat trajectory plane as it does on an uphill trajectory plane. It's hard to imagine, but the effect is exactly the same. The only time gravity's effect is different is when the missile is going in a downhill trajectory. Since the missile is already headed in a somewhat down direction, gravity has less effect since it is also pulling down. It's the reason why the pendulum sight on my bow stays exactly the same for flat and uphill shots, but moves and adjusts the aim for downhill shots. I hope I didn't confuse ya more. I'm sure there's a website out there somewhere that explains it all much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mountain_Dragon Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? Well, I just found this that seems to contradict me and my pendulum sight. Now I'm confused too. http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/April04.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutz4bucks Posted November 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? i know one thing for sure..i'll let the leopold do the thinking and i'll to the killin..thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Re: Range This or That??? Just remember that gravity acts on a projectile shot uphill or downhill only over the level distance to the target. Archers need to know exact yardages as an error of only a yard or two can cause a miss. You can prove this to yourself when up in a treestand by measuring the distance to the bottom of a tree. Then measure the distance to the tree at a level distance from you and that distance will be shorter every time. You must use that shorter distance as the shooting distance to your intended target or you will shoot high every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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