hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 i am going to be useing a 22 hornet deer hunting in the morning and some people say this gun is to small why do you say this? because i have always taken down every deer i have shot with it on the first shot but people say it to small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question A 22 cal. is too small for deer. I'm not saying it won't kill a deer, but I am saying that the longer you hunt with it, the more deer you will not kill, but only wound. That makes it an unethical choice of weapons, and possibly illegal too. Check your hunting regs. It is a small critters and varmint rifle, not a big game rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question yes its legal to use it i have asked the warden about it two years ago and he said the law passed that you can use any gun that is a center fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Goose Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question I would not reccomend anything under .243. You could kill a deer with a slingshot, but why torture more animals than you have too. In manitoba we have to use at last a bullet .23 in dia. Not much larger but guns in this range tend to have a heavier bullet and thus deeper penetration, which is what will kill the deer, instead of just wounding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HuntCast Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question [ QUOTE ] "i shot a 6 point but we tracked it for 1 1/2 miles but never did find it" [/ QUOTE ] Is that the gun you used on that deer?? God, I hope not. Just because you think it's legal, doesn't make it right. BTW, If you used a .22 in Michigan, you would be arrested! There is a reason you can't use them for deer in, if not every, then nearly all the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question yep and i finally found out what happend and i was dissapointed bacause my scope was off about 8 inches and i mad a gut shot on him thats what happeds with that one and the game warden is my neighbor so yea its legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question Where do you live James? Let's have a look at the hunting regs together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question well that sucks you all makeing me sound like im a bad person because that my only gun that i can use good greif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question James, if that is the only gun you have to use, then you shouldn't be hunting big game with it...period If all I had was a pellet gun, would it be OK for me to go after a moose? You asked the question James, and we are trying to answer it for you. Instead of listening you are making excuses for the only rifle you have to hunt with. The scope was off, it's the only gun I have ...What about responsibility, law and ethics James? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question Firearms Deer November Portion Nov. 11-21 Statewide 1,2,3 1.Longbow and compound bow 2.Muzzleloading or cap-and-ball firearms .40 caliber or larger capable of firing only a single projectile 3.Centerfire pistols, revolvers and rifles; shotguns with slugs only; crossbow 4.Shotgun only with shot not larger than No. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question thats what the rules say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HuntCast Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question [ QUOTE ] well that sucks you all makeing me sound like im a bad person because that my only gun that i can use good greif [/ QUOTE ] It's not that you are a bad person........ it's just that Missouri has bad law that needs to be changed. I looked it up, and you are right...... it is legal for some reason. You could even use a .17! Please put the .22 away and use a bow during rifle season. You will be doing the deer a big favor by not needlessly wounding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question thanks for that one huntcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question sorry buckee your right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question http://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-7.pdf this is where you go to look if you want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question hey buckee you ever heard of someone useing a golf ball to pull the skin off a deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question The 22 hornet is a varmint round, not appropriate for deer hunting, even though used by some. HuntCast is right, Missouri has a bad law that needs to be changed. They let the 22 hornet slip through the cracks all because it is not a rim-fire cartridge like a regular 22 http://www.fishandhunttexas.com/22_hornet.htm Calibre usage .22 rim-fire: small pests such as rats, rabbits and grey squirrels. .22 Hornet, .220, .222, .22/250, .223: pest species including foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question [ QUOTE ] hey buckee you ever heard of someone useing a golf ball to pull the skin off a deer? [/ QUOTE ] No, but I've heard of using a bicyle pump to pump air under the hide to skin it easier Never tried it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question thats all the guns tahat are used around my parts lol but some use 30-06 and 300 and 375 and 7mm but mostly .22 Hornet, .220, .222, .22/250, .223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question im haveing my uncle look for me a .270 but im not sure when he will find one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question can you explain what that means?http://www.fishandhunttexas.com/22_hornet.htm with the rifle ballistics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question Since the Missouri hunting regs have got you covered as far as the center-shot cartridge goes, I guess it's up to you to decide on which caliber you think is ethical and responsible to kill a deer in a quick and humane fashion. Even that gut-shot deer would have laid down for you to finish it off, if you were using a bigger caliber. Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunting_boy Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question i know now i keep up on this hunting regs cause i get quizzed all the time by the warden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Re: well dumb question [ QUOTE ] can you explain what that means?http://www.fishandhunttexas.com/22_hornet.htm with the rifle ballistics [/ QUOTE ] This is the important part, and the write-up below the chart too. [ QUOTE ] Description: Rapid expansion or fragmentation on impact. For Prairie dog, coyote, woodchuck. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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