murphy617 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 i spent a few hours sun sighting in my new tc omega and was very suprised how i did with open sights. with christmas coming i could not afford a scope for this season. at 50 yards i was able to repeatedly shoot in a 6 inch circle,and 100 yards was a little bigger but here in ct where i hunt i will probably not shoot over 60 yards. with knowing how accurate new ml are, next season i will have a scope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: no scope i to decided to wait on a scope when i bought my encore 2 years ago...i still don't have one on there...and after this year...i don't think i ever will....i am pretty consistant out to 100 yards, where i hunt i won't be shooting past 70 yards or so...i took my first deer last week using the open sights on my encore and it was about a 60 yard shot..and he only went 60-65 yards after the shot...after that, i am hooked on open sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_218 Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: no scope I use a T/C factory Peep Sight on my Black Diamond M/L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Colorado Bob Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: no scope Here in Colorado--it's illegal to use a muzzle-loadedr with a scope. Only iron sites can be used. I've taken elk & muleys @ 100yards without a problem. It kind of takes you back to the "Jeremiah Johnson" era. CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: no scope I just sighted in my T/C Black Diamond with open sights at 55 yards, all 3 shots were within 7" or so I'd say. T/C's sights are clear and bright, pretty easy to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shotist Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: no scope We are resricted to 1X scopes here in WI. Let me tell you, a deer at 100 yards looks like an ant thru the very best scope made at 1X. I do not feel too badly handicapped with irons however as they are capable of fine accuracy...to any distance one might contemplate shooting with a smokestick. My preference for deeper woods are the std patridge style, fiber optic sights where a very long shot might be 100-125yds. For more open or mature hardwoods or in the ridges, give me a receiver mounted peep and a 1/16" whte front bead. I can state in all seriousness that the one ML I have so set up rivals most scoped rifles that I see at our sight-in clinic. The only difference is that I must look the animal over closely with hand held optics as opposed to optics mounted on the rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longknife Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Re: no scope open sights is the only thing i have ever known and loved,even better on a TC.Give me a open sight any day over a scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Re: no scope Scopes are legal on ML here. No way would I prefer open sights over a scope. I know my eyes aren't as good as they once were. My Black Diamond is sighted in at 100 yards and shoots consistent 1 1/2" groups. If I couldn't group better than 7" at 55 yards I would throw that gun away! Given shot angles, that would equate to about 24" at 100 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shotist Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Re: no scope Hate to be the bearer of a totally differing opinion, but his 7" group on a broadside deer will kill every one he shoots at, at that distance or closer. Some folks out there can actually shoot irons better than many folks will ever shoot a scope. Yep, tis true. You shoot whatever you are comfortable with or are restricted to by game laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Re: no scope Guess you missed my point. Agreed 7" would be an acceptable margin IF the gun were held steady and within the 55 yard range. But given an offhand shot under tension of seeing a deer and perhaps misjudging the distance a little, I wouldn't accept this. Just my opinion. A small waver and the 7" could become 14" or entirely out of the kill zone. Now we have a wounded deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest massablake Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Re: no scope *DELETED* Post deleted by hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Re: no scope I would spend a little cash and put a red dot on it. Your target aquisition is instant (faster than open sights) and you can pick one up for around $30. There is no way I would shoot at a deer if passed 30 yards if I was getting a 7" group at 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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