Guest HaDeRonDa Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 We all know that accudents happen and blaze orange has helped to reduce some of those accudents. If you are in favor of wearing blaze orange that is great. I too wear it. (with certiain stipulations) If you are in favor of a statewide mandate could you please explain why? Is it all about safety? Shouldn't a private landowner be allowed to not wear it? Maybe they do not allow anyone legally on their land. Shouldn't then a dog walker be required to wear it as well? Why not? They have the legal right to the woods as well as we do. Remember prison inmates wear orange too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nyhunter24 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. yes to blaze orange, no to where it should be used. i agree that if a landowner dosn't want to wear it then so be it. i've hunted a lease in the nothern zone and didnt see a soul, and there were 6 other camps on the property. didnt see anyone! state land is a different story, especially state land where many other people hunt. i want to make sure that people know where i am. as to the amout of orange, i see nothing wrong with a hat. vest if you want, but i think a hat is sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Hang on to that thought out of respect for LetMGrow. He has a post topic/discussion coming soon about this. He really deserves the attention. Thanks. Look for his post within the next few days. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Hunt Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Yes to Orange for safety reasons. A vest would work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs3344 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. i think if you are hunting private land where no one else is hunting i believe you shouldnt have to wear it .... they say deer cant see it but i dont believe that one bit !!!! i know they see it......game land another story becuase you dont know whats going to happen in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAstringking Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. i read an article in the local paper this morning about a man hunting on private posted property for bears during the opening day of PA bear season. a trespasser walked within 30 yards of the land owners treestand. the land owner was wearing place orange vest and hat and had yellow rubber boots on. the trespasser shot the land owner in the arm and is claiming that he thought it was a bear. so deff YES on the oragne and NO on the private property thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unioncountyslayer Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Life or Death, that is the question. I'll choose life over death anyday. I don't care if you're a private land owner, which I am, and I still wear it. Ever heard of poachers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I wear blaze orange even during archery until I get seated, then it comes off. During gun season, I always wear it, and plenty of it. Here is my view on the law though. People think of it as playing with fire in these parts. NY is the home of the liberal lawyers and people realize that. If they pass this law that requires the use of blaze orange during the gun season, it will probably effect turkey hunters and waterfowl hunters also. Imagine trying to hunt geese and turkeys in blaze orange. How this?? Well, why not...how hard would it be to determine if someone is turkey hunting or deer hunting in the northern zone during the last two weeks of Oct? In NY State, our turkey season coincides with deer season. Some guys actually hunt deer and turkey at the same time (with shotguns) and just adjust their load to whatever comes in. I persoanlly don't but there is nothing preventing it. Also since turkey season is open during archery season, will they require archerys to be in the woods with orange on? After all, the turkey hunter is sitting motionless, the archer would be the one more than likely moving about. Our waterfowl season also runs hand in hand with deer season and many guys hunt geese and ducks in water holes deep in the woods. These would all be subjected to the blaze orange during "gun season" law. It needs to be written very specifically if they ever intended to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguide Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I'd wear blaze orange from head to toe even if I didn't have to-it doesn't bother deer in the slightest it's been mandatory up here for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I look at it like this, if you don`t wear blaze orange during rifle season,If you do get shot, or something happens, the only way they will be able to find you is to look for the buzzards circling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger-Hunter Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Blaze orange is a good subject to discuss on this forum. I was surprised to hear that every state didn't make it mandatory. Indiana, it is hat only. MN and Illinois is hat and vest. I have seen guys wear orange head to toe and it certainly does help to see them in thick brush. A friend of mine was hunting and had his sights on what he thought was a deer, he waited to make sure. it was a guy with an orange hat on, with his white-hooded sweater shirt draped over his orange hat. He almost took one in the chest. I'm for hat and vest during deer season firearms, regardless of what you are hunting. i do think that it should be mandatory for anyone going into any wooded area during firearms season. I will say this, though. if I'm hunting private land and I "know" that I am the only one out there, I'll usually take the orange off. This is mostly because the private land that I hunt, is somewhat close to homes and I don't want some Yahoo to walk out there asking me if I have seen anything or what am i doing. This is on rare occasion, though. Public land, are you kidding me. This year i really experienced what public land hunting was all about when I hunted in MN. It was ridiculous. Now I know what people are talking about when they complain about the "first weekend city-slickers." Even though i currently live in the city, I grew up in the farmlands of Indiana and these people have no business in the woods. The stories we could all tell about these people could fill volumes, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbarnhart20 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] A friend of mine was hunting and had his sights on what he thought was a deer, he waited to make sure. it was a guy with an orange hat on, with his white-hooded sweater shirt draped over his orange hat. He almost took one in the chest. [/ QUOTE ] that's why when you look to see id something is a deer... you use binocs instead of a scope. That's one thing i hate, i was walking one day and looked at a guy through the binocs and he was scoping me! He got a piece of my mind, what if ur finger slips or something happens. As for the orange, i wear vest only, our state requires 400 sq. in. I think a vest cover that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Being seen by other hunters and not getting shot is more important than getting a deer. If its law, have it on, even if its not, remember you may not be the only one in the woods, be seen, be safe!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Too many people out there who just dont think before they do. I wear my orange on our property to hunt the gun seasons, but in blinds I will take it off after I am up off the ground. Stands where I may be shot by neighboring hunters the orange stay on in the stand. The wife even wears blaze orange when riding the horses in areas on the property where there is any chance that the idiots behind us might shoot her. Sad to have to think a person on a horse might be mistakenly shot by an IDIOT who cares too little to know his/her target, but better safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDaddy28 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I hunt private land and I still think it should be mandatory. We had two people drive by last Friday and shoot at deer off the road with a high powered rifle. People are amazingly stupid. Why take the risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I really have no great problem with wearing it was I have stated but for those of you that are in favor of it statewide that have already responded, would you answer this? Would you then "require" everyone in the woods to wear it? The biker or hiker? The local DEP officer? The farmer herding his cows back to the barn that has to cut through a section of woods? Why or why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. i could care less about the laws... i wear blaze orange because there are just too many idiots out there packing guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Kind of along the lines of motorcycles and helmets. Brings up the question, "can you mandate safety?" IMHO, you're just an idiot if you're out there walking, hunting or not, without some sort of blaze on. Personally, I choose to not hunt much at all during gun season here, and I don't allow my children outside at all for that week. You can't control what other people do, why would you take a risk like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. We have to wear 400" above the waste and a head cover in Arkasas in any place where firearm deer hunting is legal. I think it's a good idea. A few years back I was bow hunting in complete camo about 25 feet up in a tree. I heard some movement in the brush, stood up and grabbed my bow. About 30 seconds later and elderly gentleman stepped out of the brush, also in camo, with a shotgun shouldered and pointed about 10 feet above me in the tree I was in. He was squirrel hunting. I called to him and he about jumped out of his skin. We were both pretty shaken up over it. It seems the land owner gave us both permission to hunt there and didn't tell either one of us. We worked out a signal so we would know when the other was out there and didn't have any problems after that. If I had orange on it probibly wouldn't have happened. I still don't wear it while bow hunting, but you can bet in never comes off when I'm gun hunting. You never know when someones there and there are too many people who ignor fences when hunting to say it won't happen to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yarddog Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. i wear it and it does not hurt the hunting at all as i have had several deer walk within a few feet of me with it on and as long as i did not move they did not know i was there.but i have not taken shoots at deer as i have seen blaze orange in the back ground and it is just not worth it.not very many people survive a hit from a shootgun slug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlriggins Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. lets face it guns dont kill people people kill people and I dont want to be in the line fo fire when a simple hat would have been a lifesaver and if you think "it will never happen to me" then that is what the last guy probably thought that was shot and killed by a tresspasser that chose not to confirm a target and start blasting away at the first thing that moves in the brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguide Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. A guy in Alberta got shot-he was in full camo-in a camo deer blind-with a decoy out in front of it DURING RIFLE SEASON-not too scmaaaart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zemmer18 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. NEW LEBANON, Columbia County — A 35-year-old hunter trying to drive deer was fatally shot by a companion in a tree stand in Columbia County Friday, state police said. Raymond Scott of Troy, Rensselaer County, died at Albany Medical Center, while Peter Deegan, 53, of Johnsonville, Rensselaer County, was charged with criminally negligent homicide, police said. The men were hunting on a three-acre parcel in rural New Lebanon, 25 miles southeast of Albany, when Deegan heard a noise and fired one round with a high-powered rifle from the elevated stand around 1:20 p.m., striking Scott, who was about 80 feet away on foot, police said. Deegan was arraigned and released, scheduled to return Dec. 7 to New Lebannon town court.(from pojonews.com Crime & Courts 11-26-06) a sad reminder to be sure of your target it is a good idea to show your young hunter stuff like this if they think their a crack shot to remind them this way before the above happens This happened in NY last week. Now I know the hunter shot at a noise in this sad story but would things have been different had the mandate for Orange been in place? There was no mention of Orange in article either so maybe the man shot was wearing Orange. It's a safety thing for me. Better safe than sorry. What would you think if it was mandatory to wear to and from the stand or when you are walking but once on stand or sitting in place at your favorite spot the choice was up to you to take it off or leave it on? This would cover the safety portion for the most part and then it would cover the hunter who wants to be concealed. Just my $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Seminole Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] i think if you are hunting private land where no one else is hunting i believe you shouldnt have to wear it .... they say deer cant see it but i dont believe that one bit !!!! i know they see it......game land another story becuase you dont know whats going to happen in there. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with him. I have only used blazed orange once & I felt like I was naked. I think its fine if you're quail hunting or doing a deer drive something like that, but I don't feel its neccessary to wear orange when deer hunting from a treestand or even stalking deer on private land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 257Roberts Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Here in MS it is mandetory durring rifle season. It is my understanding even if you are squirrel hunting durring rifle season, or bow hunting you must wear hunters orange durring rifle season. For me making hunters orange maditory is kinda like making wearing a seat belt manditory. They are looking out for you. In a perfect world we wouldn't need hunters orange. Everyone would practice safe firearm safty, know what there target is and know what is behind thier target. But unforturnatley we do not live in a perfect world. When squirrel hunting with a buddy i have noticed how hard it is to pick him out in the woods even though i know he is there. If he doesn't move it's hard to see him. It not so much getting mistaken by a deer that concerns me as shooting at a deer and not seeing the hunter standing behind it. And of course you have these nuckleheads out there that shoot a bushes moving, dark spots, ect. Hunters orange saves lives. If you don't wear it you are taking your life in your own hands. I'm not sure but i think hunters orange is required to be worn on public land even if you are not hunting. I know my surveying crew weres it durring hunting season to keep from getting shot while surveying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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