coles Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. it doesnt really matter to me but i have noticed that i feel alot safer with it on when i know there is other people around. just a couple years ago some one shot a horse on the land they were hunting on becasue they heard something moving in the bushes. just shot at the noise thinking it was a deer. so just think if that was a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Wow! I think Snapper snapped on me. Thats ok though. I can take it. LOL One thing I will mention though, when I told about the fellow hidden in the hollow tree, he wasn't entirely hidden. His arms were visible. It was in the pm with minimum sunlight in the big woods. I mean I was a half mile back from a Conservation road with no idea someone even knew about this spot. Snapper suggested I look at the deer with binos before rasing my gun. OK! in a perfect world this would be the case. Let me ask you this. How many people who go into the woods actually carry binos and check every deer out before you look at in in a scope? Now I am asking you to be honest, not giving out an answer just to make yourself or someone else feel good. I will also admit at the time this happened I didn't own a pair of binoculars because I couldn't afford them. I'll bet there aren't a handfull of people who take bino's into the woods with them. I'm not saying it isn't a good practice,I am saying most hunters don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] I would bet the number of accidental shootings that occur where a stray bullet finds it way through woods to a hunter who may not be wearing orange is a fraction of the number by comparison. [/ QUOTE ] I don't really know where to find that kind of breakdown as to the causes of hunting accidents by percentages. I will say that a lot of the accidents reported in newspaper articles do describe hunters getting in the line of fire. Many of these reports describe the result of deer drives or people of the same hunting party walking parallel to each other through a woods when a deer runs between them. That is not really any indicator of percentages, but just my recollection over the years of newspaper, radio and TV accounts. Speaking of Impossible to find" statistical percentages, I wonder how many accidental shootings have been prevented because of blaze orange. If we had a woods full of fully camoed hunters during a firearms deer season, I wonder just what the accident rates would be. Well, of course we will never know, but common sense kind of tells me that it would be a lot bigger number than it is now. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] Wow! I think Snapper snapped on me. Thats ok though. I can take it. LOL One thing I will mention though, when I told about the fellow hidden in the hollow tree, he wasn't entirely hidden. His arms were visible. It was in the pm with minimum sunlight in the big woods. I mean I was a half mile back from a Conservation road with no idea someone even knew about this spot. Snapper suggested I look at the deer with binos before rasing my gun. OK! in a perfect world this would be the case. Let me ask you this. How many people who go into the woods actually carry binos and check every deer out before you look at in in a scope? Now I am asking you to be honest, not giving out an answer just to make yourself or someone else feel good. I will also admit at the time this happened I didn't own a pair of binoculars because I couldn't afford them. I'll bet there aren't a handfull of people who take bino's into the woods with them. I'm not saying it isn't a good practice,I am saying most hunters don't. [/ QUOTE ] LOL...no I didn't snap on ya...sorry if it came acrossed that way. Just trying to get you to understand that I think blaze orange is prob. the right thing to wear...just don't like being told I have to on my property. And to be perfectly honest...yes I look with bino's everytime before aiming my rifle. If it means the deer is moving accrossed a small opening and I don't get time to put the bino's down and get the gun up before the shot is gone...then o'well...don't need a deer that bad. Now since we're being honest...I never had a "trophy" buck (130 class or better) walk out in front of me during rifle season. I can't honestly say if I see nothing but antlers coming that I wouldn't pick up my gun first. So far to date...always have my bino's on...even during archery season. Maybe along with the law of wearing blaze orange...they can mandate a law to carry bino's also. Heck you can pick up a cheap pair of Tasco's or Bushnell's prob. cheaper than a decent blaze orange vest or coat. I'll end my discusion on this topic with this...we all dislike a certain law or two. I just don't like gov. trying to legislate common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HaDeRonDa Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] Maybe along with the law of wearing blaze orange...they can mandate a law to carry bino's also. Heck you can pick up a cheap pair of Tasco's or Bushnell's prob. cheaper than a decent blaze orange vest or coat. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe that should have been the law instead of blaze orange. If you had binos and still shot someone boy would you needs some nights in jail!!! Oh, along with about 3000 hrs of community speaking on how much of a dufas you were for not picking up your binos to look first. We do need to remember that most hunting accidents do not involve bullets. For example, GWSmith's uncle fell when hunting. If they told the emergency room that they were hunting, it would go down as a hunting accident. If you cut yourself in NY, even in July, with a broadhead and you go to get stitches at the ER. It goes down as a hunting accident. Blaze orange would not have helped you. Very similar to self inflicted gunshot wounds of hunters while hunting. The antis use these types of things against us and try to twist facts for their cause. I'm not here saying that the blaze orange is a tactic used by antis but don't put it past an anti hunter that is in government. An anti will use any means to promote their cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xen Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I've always wondered just how many "accidents" out there were really accidents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I am 100% againist wearing blaze orange. I think when you are in an area it draws hunter attention to you and gives them the option to put you in their crosshairs. Remember there are some dirtbags in the woods. I hunt private land....do i wear orange?? hmm one never knows....i havent been shot yet with or without Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Yeah, I think we should all do our gun hunting with ghillie suits on. You don't want them "dirt-bags" getting you.....lol. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. It sure does make you visable out there..A Minn. hunter was fataly shot wearing blaze orange. I hunt private property, should not have to use it on my own land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] I will say that a lot of the accidents reported in newspaper articles do describe hunters getting in the line of fire. Many of these reports describe the result of deer drives or people of the same hunting party walking parallel to each other through a woods when a deer runs between them. [/ QUOTE ] That seems very logical Doc, I would imagine that if those hunters were wearing blaze orange it might possibly make a difference in whether or not they were visible to the shooter. Pushes in the swamps around here are not all that common, with hearing the way in which some of these shooters around her do fire rapid successive shots, there is no way I would be on the ground blaze orange or not doing a push around here not on my own property during the rifle seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter36 Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. I dont know if this has been asked yet but for everyone that says you shouldnt have to wear orange on your own land, Should there be a minimum acerage set to this??? what happens when someone on the land next to you shoots at a deer on there property and can not see you because you are not wearing orange??? Just to let you know bullets dont know property lines!!! It's not always about someone directly firing at you but someone accidently firing in your direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. Speaking of rapid fire shooting, how many of you have heard that traditional 5-shot volley. I hear that kind of nonsense several times every year. That generally means that someone takes their first shot and then as fast as they can pull that trigger, follows the deer that they shot at in a series of hail-Mary led-slinging follow-ups. Pretty bad practice, but they do it just the same. How much scrutiny of the background do suppose those goofs are doing each time they pull the trigger. One can only hope that the sudden appearance of blaze orange behind the deer will catch their attention before they fire that next shot. No guarantees, but at least you tilt the odds a bit in your favor. One thing is for sure, without the blaze orange, there is absolutely nothing that will catch their attention with the possible exception of the final scream of some wounded hunter. Add a scope to that scenario with it's limited field of vision and it gets even worse. Go afield without blaze orange?......that's just plain dumb no matter what the reason! Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger-Hunter Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Re: Ok, I did it!! Blaze orange..the controversy. [ QUOTE ] RangerClay, I heard about that berry picker as well. Some would say he must have been at fault for picking during the hunting season right? Isn't that crazy? [/ QUOTE ] Stupidity occasionally and coincidentally meets Stupidity and you can always bet that Tragedy is not far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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