Guest Southgeorgia_Sportsman Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Just collecting thoughts on shining for deer. Im not talking about slinging a beam thro a peanut field during deer season, im talking about doing it with a permit. My dad owns over 400 acres of blueberries, and the deer eat the heck out of em, so we get an off-season permit that runs from the day after deer season to the day before it begins. We do it eliminate the doe population, since they are the majority party. Dont get me wrong, we never shoot bucks, mostly because there arent many, and because i hunt the surrouding woods during season. If you ask me, shining during off-season is very exciting and challenging. Anyone can find a deer at night, but holding the light and keeping her still while your buddy tries to throw some lead her way is a lot harder than you think. not to mention finding her in dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter36 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Re: Shining Hey as long as its legal and it doesnt go to waste Im all for it. Im pretty new to the forums but welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAstringking Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining i think that it would be more ethical to belong to Hunters for Hire program. you can elect an individual to come hunt for free on your property during the off season and YOU make the rules about what he can use, shoot, ect. but hey if thats what you like to do then do it. welcome to the forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter36 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining [ QUOTE ] i think that it would be more ethical to belong to Hunters for Hire program. you can elect an individual to come hunt for free on your property during the off season and YOU make the rules about what he can use, shoot, ect. [/ QUOTE ] What is Hunters for Hire!! Does someone actually get paid to hunt? I know you said for free but how is it funded? To me as long as it is legal and there are rules and regs on that exact type of harvest i dont think ethics really is a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining I dont like the sound of it. If its legal tho fine by me. How many do you take each year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining SouthGeorgia Sportsman, First off welcome to the group. I hear you. I have been lucky enough to participate on a couple night hunts in Virginia. The state biologist would issue us permits to thin the herd and night kills were authorized. It is a blast, but a lot of work. We weighed them before gutting, after gutting, pulling the jaw bones, and hanging in cold storage. This is a lot of work when you have 25 deer to do. We would only take does and would limit it to under 50 each year before hunting season. We would get at least 75 DMAP tags for does during the season. Some times, deer are considered as varmints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAstringking Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i think that it would be more ethical to belong to Hunters for Hire program. you can elect an individual to come hunt for free on your property during the off season and YOU make the rules about what he can use, shoot, ect. [/ QUOTE ] What is Hunters for Hire!! Does someone actually get paid to hunt? I know you said for free but how is it funded? To me as long as it is legal and there are rules and regs on that exact type of harvest i dont think ethics really is a question. [/ QUOTE ] its more of a connection with hunters and land owners. like say a tree farm doesnt like to hunt but wants all the deer off their property. they would fill out a form and their propertyand problem are posted on the state website. hunters fill out a form and send it to the land owner. the land owner picks the best canidate for the required job and tells them what he or she can and can not do. the state also gives special permits to the hunter for helping the business or land owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebobhunter4 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining i think thatd be fun to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxBowHunter Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining I'm all for it also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Southgeorgia_Sportsman Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining AJ: thanks. sounds like you guys gotta a lot of deer. and your right it is a job, but it is legal and in my opinion, very fun. at first i was nervous about putting this on here because i didnt know if yall thought it was just a redneck thing or what. i usually only shoot about 5 during offseason, but that does help because when there are less does for the bucks to breed, they become more territorial and they are easier to call in. i really dont like rednecks or anybody who runs around at 1 in the morning shooting all of our big deer during season, but i enjoy doing it on the farm with a permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining Not legal here to locate deer by casting a beam of light. Welcome to the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining Not legal here in most cases either. I'm pretty sure you can with a neusence animal permit. Sounds like what you've got there. I've got a friend who does the same think on a peach orchard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining Not legal to "shine" Deer in any way, shape or form here in Illinois. That includes with your headlights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danbo Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining Why shoot them at night if is so hard? A little damerous too, if you asked me. You can't see what's beyond the target!! It may be legal but all the neighbors are wondering who's the poacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitcha_some Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining [ QUOTE ] Why shoot them at night if is so hard? A little damerous too, if you asked me. You can't see what's beyond the target!! It may be legal but all the neighbors are wondering who's the poacher. [/ QUOTE ] how would you even know the lay of his property and how his neighbors react? im pretty sure he isnt driving around in the back of a jeep emtpying full clips from an AK and hoping for the best if his property is big enough then wahts the big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Southgeorgia_Sportsman Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Re: Shining the farms that we hunt on are ones that we have virtually grew up on, so we pretty much know the lay of the land. theyre kinda in the middle of nowhere anyway, so nobody really gives a hoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Re: Shining Eliminating deer due to crop damage is fine by me. I do not shine, and wish it was illigal in WIS., far too many bucks poached because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter36 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Re: Shining [ QUOTE ] wish it was illigal in WIS., far too many bucks poached because of it. [/ QUOTE ] I dont think poachers really care if shining is leagl or not. They are already poaching so Im pretty sure that they wouldnt hesitate to shine deer illegally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonencricket Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Re: Shining No shinning in KY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Re: Shining I know some country folk have fun doing that around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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