mike Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 i am getting a new ml for next year! sold my glock 22 in 40 cal to get it i am stuck between the cva optima, traditions pusuit xlt, or the thompson omega. i have shot the cva and the traditions[friends have them] never shot the tc. i had a new frontier bear tooth magnum and the accuracy is innconsistent and it kicks like a mule! wish you could test drive guns like cars!! anyone own these models that can give me some input! thank's fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_Spike_King Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Well I own a couple of the Investarms flintlocks and they all have worked for me very well. They all are Italian made barrels. Now I also own a Knight Big Horn inline that shoots very well. In a couple of years I want to buy the Omega but with Knight or Thompson Centre I don't think you could go wrong with either. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tped Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Go with the Omega. These guns absolutely shoot and are top notch. Personally I don't consider the CVA or Traditions to be in the same league with the T/C. I also have the Encore and bought my Omega as a second gun but I love the Omega so much - I only use standard rifle barrels on the Encore. A good friend just bought his Omega in October and is same as me now - Enocre is retired and hunts only with the Omega. Both are thumbhole stock models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Of those, I would get the TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! how is the recoil on the tc is my big question. i don't know what makes the difference but the new frontier i had kicks 2 times harder than my dads optima or my buddy's prusuit! thats why i was kinda of leaning towards on of those 2 guns cause i have shot them. same loads and everything also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tped Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Nice thing about inline muzzleloaders is that you can work up your own loads. Find an accurate bullet and loose powder charge at a recoil level you can handle. No law that you have to shoot 150 grrains in the thing. I currently shoot 120 grains of triple 7 powder and a 250 grain Barnes bullet and I don't think the recoil is much at all. Heavier bullets and 150 grains of powder will increase the recoil. My friend only shoots 100 grains in his load. Buy the T/C Omega and start with an 80 grain load and 250 grain bullets and work up from there. If the recoil bothers you - tone it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! [ QUOTE ] Nice thing about inline muzzleloaders is that you can work up your own loads. Find an accurate bullet and loose powder charge at a recoil level you can handle. No law that you have to shoot 150 grrains in the thing. I currently shoot 120 grains of triple 7 powder and a 250 grain Barnes bullet and I don't think the recoil is much at all. Heavier bullets and 150 grains of powder will increase the recoil. My friend only shoots 100 grains in his load. Buy the T/C Omega and start with an 80 grain load and 250 grain bullets and work up from there. If the recoil bothers you - tone it back [/ QUOTE ] what i said in my post was that the same loads were shot out of all three guns, and mine kicked twice as hard. thats why i was asking about the tc cause i have never shot one. thats why i was leaning towards the cva or traditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! I have a T/C Black Diamond not an Omega, but with 100 grains of pyrodex it feels like a .22 kicking. Very little recoil. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! CVA Traditions and New Frontier are all made in the same plant in spain as well as Winchester and Remington. Many times felt recoil is as much the design and fit of the stock to the shooter as it is the manufacturer. Of course if you use a super mag pile of powder recoil is a natural result of that effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoss Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! TC Omega hands down ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Personally, I prefer Knight rifles. I've owned 3 and have never had a mis-fire with any of them. They all hold excellent groups and are quality rifles for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp793 Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! I love my Optima, I have had it for three years and have never misfired or had any problems with it at all. I would highly recommend it, and it is relatively cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bownarow Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Check out the Savage ML's (cheaper) before you buy. Smokeless powder (cheaper), no cleaning (cheaper), faster projectiles, more accurate. Just IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tped Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! Recoil can be different for everyone. Personally my 120 grain load in either my encore or omega is easy to shoot - yes it recoils but not intolerable - to someone else they may think it excessive. I dont think you would go wrong with the Omega though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: okay ml guys! I shoot 120 grains of pryodex in my black diamond with a 240 grain xtp mag. The recoil is lighter than my .270. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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