And So It Starts!!! Here Comes The Gun Bans!!!

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Gun Owners of America Legislative Alert

-- Oppose McCarthy Gun Control Bill, H.R. 297

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert

8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151

Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408

http://www.gunowners.org

Tuesday, January 23, 2007

The first major anti-gun bill of the new Congress has already been

introduced, and it could prove to be the most serious threat to the

Second Amendment we face under the new congressional leadership.

On the first full day of the new Congress, anti-gun Rep. Carolyn

McCarthy introduced H.R. 297, the most massive expansion of the Brady

law since it passed in 1993. This is a bill you helped kill last

year, but the new House leadership will be even more eager to pass it

than were their predecessors.

This bill provides, in the form of grants, about $1 billion to the

states to "provide the National Instant Criminal Background Check

System [NICS] with all records concerning persons who are prohibited

from possessing or receiving a firearm under subsection (g) or (n) of

section 922 of title 18, United States Code, regardless of the

elapsed time since the disqualifying event."

Covered under this bill are records pertaining to the Lautenberg

misdemeanor gun ban, lists of persons under indictment, mental health

records, records relevant to the identification of illegal aliens and

other records.

NICS is the system used by the FBI to conduct a background check

prior to a firearm sale by a federally licensed gun dealer. Most

people are aware that NICS records include a list of convicted

felons, but there are many other categories of persons who are

prohibited from possessing firearms for which computerized lists may

not be available. It is these categories that are targeted by this

bill.

For instance, the bill expands upon the unconstitutional Lautenberg

misdemeanor gun ban [922 (g)(9)]. This gun ban, passed as an

amendment to a 1996 omnibus spending bill and signed into law by

President Clinton, was originally introduced by leading anti-gun

Senators Frank Lautenberg, Dianne Feinstein, and Edward Kennedy.

Under the Lautenberg ban, people who have committed very minor

offenses that include pushing, shoving or, in some cases, merely

yelling at a family member can no longer own a firearm for

self-defense.

The Lautenberg gun ban should be repealed, not expanded.

The bill also seeks to computerize records of persons "under

indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term

exceeding one year." Such persons, though not even convicted of the

crime in question, are prohibited from possessing a firearm.

The gun grabbers are seeking to force the states to provide the

federal government all of these indictment records, updated

quarterly. Given the maxim among those in the legal profession that

prosecutors can get a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich," this,

too, is a gun prohibition that should be repealed, not expanded.

Mental health records are also covered under the McCarthy bill.

This could have a significant impact on American servicemen,

especially those returning from combat situations and who seek some

type of psychiatric care. Often, veterans who have suffered from

post-traumatic stress disorder have been deemed as mentally

"incompetent" and are prohibited from owning guns under 18 U.S.C.

922(g)(4). Records of those instances certainly exist, and, in 1999,

the Department of Veterans Administration turned over 90,000 names of

veterans to the FBI for inclusion into the NICS background check

system.

Mental health records can also have a future impact on young people,

as this country trends closer to mandatory mental health screening

for students. In a 2003 report by a subcommittee of the President's

New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, the author states that "The

problem of emotional disorders in children is large -- 20% of all

children are affected -- and it seems to be growing." It is unknown

how these people will be categorized in the future.

The fact that metal health 'experts,' a notoriously anti-gun

community, would have a say in who is allowed to possess a firearm

is, quite frankly, frightening. Many in the profession would just as

soon consider anyone who owns a gun as 'mentally incompetent.'

Another sobering thought is how computerized data are often

mishandled. Consider the disturbing news reports that 25 million

Social Security number records of veterans were hacked. The more that

our private data gets added into government computers, the more

likely we are to have our identity compromised.

Perhaps the provision that would lead to the greatest number of

'fishing expeditions' is that related to illegal aliens.

Federal law prohibits illegal aliens from owning guns. The bill

requires all relevant data related to who is in this country

illegally. But what records pertaining to illegal aliens from the

states would be relevant? Perhaps a better question would be, what

records are not relevant?

In order to identify illegal aliens, "relevant" records could allow

the FBI to demand state tax returns of all citizens, employment

records, library records (we've already seen how these have been

deemed relevant to terrorism investigations), DMV and hospital

records -- all in the name of making sure that you're not an

illegal.

The sponsor of the bill, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, is one of the most

virulent anti-gunners in the entire Congress. Of the 32 cosponsors

of the bill last year, 31 were GOA "F" rated, one was rated

"D."

These representatives support the bill because it enhances their gun

control agenda, not because they are concerned about protecting your

Second Amendment rights.

Also among the bill's supporters are anti-Second Amendment groups

like the Brady Campaign and Americans for Gun Safety (AGS). In fact,

the McCarthy bill is taken point by point from a 2002 ASG "report"

entitled "How America's Faulty Background Check System Allows

Criminals to Get Guns."

This bill was first introduced in 2002 by Rep. McCarthy and Sen.

Chuck Schumer. It passed out of the House that year, and was only

defeated by a GOA-supported filibuster by former Sen. Bob Smith

(R-NH). Since the bill has already been around for several years,

look for Speaker Nancy Pelosi to put this bill on the fast track as a

way to thank Sarah Brady and her anti-gun cohorts.

The Brady law needs to be repealed, not expanded to allow anti-gun

administrations to find new ways to strip citizens of their Second

Amendment rights.

ACTION: Gun Owners of America is the only national pro-gun

organization opposing the McCarthy bill, so it is imperative that you

contact your representative immediately. Please take action today

and spread the word about H.R. 297! We need all the help we can get.

You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at

http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Representative a

pre-written e-mail message. And, you can call your Representative

toll-free at 1-877-762-8762.

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Texan_Til_I_Die Monster Buck

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Hey dlriggins, I can't tell from your post if you're being sarcastic or if you're trying to denounce President Bush, capital punishment, and the private ownership of firearms, all at the same time?

I'm assuming the latter, so I've got to ask just what your suggestion would be for dealing with Johnathon Moore, who murdered a policeman during a burglary? Or Carlos Granados who murdered his girlfriend's 3 year old son? Or Derrick Frazier who murdered a woman and her son? Or William Wyatt who sexually assualted and murdered a 3 year old boy? Or Robert Anderson who kidnapped, raped and then murdered a 5 year old girl. Or my all time favorite, Karla Faye Tucker, who brutally killed two people with multiple blows from a pickaxe?

I'm glad the State saw fit to end the life of each and every one of these violent individuals, but if you've got a better suggestion on what to do with them, I'd like to hear it.

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Don't know about you guys but my letter is as good as sent. I like my guns way too much for some dribbling politicians to take them away from me. They all live in a bubble anyway, heck half of them wouldn't know what to do with a gun. Half of them would probably look down the barrel of a loaded gun. (Not that that would be a bad thing) I am definitely voicing my opinion.

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I have been a member of the NRA for over 40 years. I constantly get mailings telling me about some legislator who is out to get my guns. I am supposed to think I should be watching out my window because he is right around the corner. Then I get asked for another donation.

To those who read all the press NRA and other so called gun lobbyest groups send out, let me ask you this? If you didn't have that scare factor, would you renew your membership every year?

I think sometimes the NRA and other groups just like to stir the pot some to keep their membership up. Often times I have seen very negative statements made about Sen. Schumer in the NRA magazine. As of yet, and I live in NY, I haven't seen any thing he has done to earn this discredit.

Sometimes I feel it would be better to let the sleeping dog lie.

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Often times I have seen very negative statements made about Sen. Schumer in the NRA magazine. As of yet, and I live in NY, I haven't seen any thing he has done to earn this discredit.

Sometimes I feel it would be better to let the sleeping dog lie.

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Thank you for being a member of the NRA.

Now, about Sen. Schumer...

While serving in the House of Representatives, Schumer coauthored the federal semi-automatic firearms ban in 1994 with California Senator Dianne Feinstein.

The National Rifle Association and other gun groups have criticized him for allegedly not knowing much about guns, pointing to various errors regarding the subject. Supporters of gun control legislation, however, give him much of the credit for passage of both the semi-automatics ban and the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act despite intense lobbying from opponents. The ban on semi-automatic firearms expired in September, 2004 despite attempts by Schumer to extend it. He was one of 16 Senators to vote against the Vitter Amendment which prohibited funding for the confiscation of legally owned firearms during a disaster.

So, Sen. Schumer supports a ban on semi-automatic firearms and also supports confiscation of ALL legally owned firearms during a disaster. That sounds pretty darned anti-gun to me!

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If the government thinks they are going to take guns out of the hands of honest individuals during times of disaster they have another thing coming. Like Hesston said "they'll have to pry the gun from my cold dead hands"

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I'm with you on that!! Don't mean to sound crazy or like a psycho but when the government takes away my right to bear arms and protect myself and my family, then they have started another revolutionary war........let's hope they have more common sense than that.

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If you didn't have that scare factor, would you renew your membership every year?

I think sometimes the NRA and other groups just like to stir the pot some to keep their membership up. Often times I have seen very negative statements made about Sen. Schumer in the NRA magazine. As of yet, and I live in NY, I haven't seen any thing he has done to earn this discredit.

Sometimes I feel it would be better to let the sleeping dog lie.

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No, I am a LIFE member! But I still donate when I can! The so-called scare factor you say is not a factor! Its true, the likes of your senator wants to take away all of our guns. Or make it AS HARD AS HE CAN TO EVEN OWN A FIREARM!!! Like making it cost $5 per bullet. I believe was one of his ideas! Something so crazy only a dem could think of it! Being I live in the state below you, I know all too well about shumer's ideas!!!

The DOG doesnt sleep forever! It may appear to be sleeping, but he is just thinking of new ways to make it tougher on gun owners!

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If the government thinks they are going to take guns out of the hands of honest individuals during times of disaster they have another thing coming. Like Hesston said "they'll have to pry the gun from my cold dead hands"

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Did you watch the news during hurricane Katrina???? confused.gif

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If the government thinks they are going to take guns out of the hands of honest individuals during times of disaster they have another thing coming. Like Hesston said "they'll have to pry the gun from my cold dead hands"

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Did you watch the news during hurricane Katrina???? confused.gif

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and that is exactly why they won't take away my right to bear arms. mad.gif Disarmament only affects the honest but further arms the evil.

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I'm with you on that!! Don't mean to sound crazy or like a psycho but when the government takes away my right to bear arms and protect myself and my family, then they have started another revolutionary war........let's hope they have more common sense than that.

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They that be, being the liberals now in power do not have more common sense than that as is quite obvious by their intentions to disarm this country and turn it into a state of socialism or quite possibly eventually into communism. If Hillary gets into the white house and the liberals retain control of both the house and senate, I am afraid we are on a road to just that.

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It is time that we all get together to start fighting these bands and crazy laws like we have, never before. I am sure that we all have voiced our opinion with letters to Senators and Legislatures, but it is time to flood them and over whelm their offices with letters and phone calls. It is time that we all unit in as a tighter group to defeat the actions that are being taken against us, our future generations, and the 2nd AMENDMENT of THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Which evidently is now just a piece of paper that doesn't mean very much to some people any more. I would like to point out that there was a reason that our fore fathers specifically put in the Constitution, our right to keep and bear arms. That reason was and is to maintain a state militia. Which is made up of the common man, not your states National Guard. Yes, it is said that they are now suppose to be a states militia but they are still ultimatly controled by the federal government.

It is now that we, as the citizens of the United States of America, need to make our stand against those that wish to take our rights and freedoms from us. And as our forefathers once did before, make this country what it was before the liberals, cry babies and whimps moved in on it.

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