Doc Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Need to chop that herd down even further? ........ Well, here is a guy who has figured out a few new ways that he would like to add to the arsenal of the anti-deer forces. Some legislator named Senator William Larkin from Orange County has introduced three bills that would create: A)an additional late deer hunting season that would run from Dec. 20 through January 31, B) Allow for a commercial deer hunting season, and C) allow property owners to take deer that are causing severe over-browsing of lands used in agriculture. How this last one differs from the current systems of agriculture deer slaughter, I'm not sure. The article that I was reading was a bit short on details. The one that really jumped out at me was the attempt to establish commercial deer hunting and the sales of venison from wild deer for profit. Yes, I know the sales of publicly owned furbearers has been accepted and going on for years, but somehow this seems a bit more dramatic to me and would seem to be more prone to promoting poaching and other misuse of the herd. To me, each of these bills seem like one of the many that get introduced every year and are so ridiculous that they never go anywhere, so I wouldn't get too upset about them. However it is interesting that anyone would even be proposing such a thing. It just continues to show how the hunters continue to lose influence and the anti-deer forces continue to grow in influence. I just thought you all might like to know what some of your legislators are up to. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters [ QUOTE ] The one that really jumped out at me was the attempt to establish commercial deer hunting and the sales of venison from wild deer for profit. Yes, I know the sales of publicly owned furbearers has been accepted and going on for years, but somehow this seems a bit more dramatic to me and would seem to be more prone to promoting poaching and other misuse of the herd. [/ QUOTE ] Am I understanding this correctly?People would have a season in which to hunt deer for the purpose of selling the meat commercialy? Sorry Im a little foggy this morning, was up late finishing trimming out a house so the owners could close on it today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters I would not mind having a longer deer season...if it was Archery season that started a little earlier or ran a little later..but the rest of those proposals? We would have such a messed up deer population.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterbucks1 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters this is JMO but I think we need to adopt a hunting season like Illinois so we can create bigger bucks. I know plenty of people out there during Shotgun that Drive deer from sun up to sunset every day, I tend to shy away from that I can see one or two deer drives but not everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters [ QUOTE ] The one that really jumped out at me was the attempt to establish commercial deer hunting and the sales of venison from wild deer for profit. Yes, I know the sales of publicly owned furbearers has been accepted and going on for years, but somehow this seems a bit more dramatic to me and would seem to be more prone to promoting poaching and other misuse of the herd. [/ QUOTE ] That is interesting. If I am not mistaken, sales of venison in this state are strictly prohibited, kind of assumed it would be that way elsewhere as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAstringking Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters [ QUOTE ] I know plenty of people out there during Shotgun that Drive deer from sun up to sunset every day, I tend to shy away from that I can see one or two deer drives but not everyday. [/ QUOTE ] i live in PA and beleive me i know what you are talkin about. there are a ton of small deer or mistake kills made every year because of this. i am also a little foggy on what a "commercial" hunting season is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters its amazing what people propose. a longer hunting season i wouldnt mind....but the other two can go right out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampRAGS Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters the possability of a longer season is nice, as far as i am concerned the seaon in NY is too short, as for the other two no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlott89 Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters i agree with campRags ans shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters Don't get your knickers in a bundle over this commercial hunting of deer. It will never happen. Our Legislators just entered a bill, A734 to be exact, to stop the commercial fishing of many species. It is expected to pass. Do you think they will pass commercial deer hunting right after they ban commercial fishing? I don't think so. Some Legislator is just blowing smoke. It will never make it to the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters RangerClay- I agree that this bill is so far off the wall that I would be real surprised if it goes anywhere. However, the whole tone of this sort of thing even being proposed in the first place bothers me a bit. This guy must have gotten the idea from somewhere and must think there is at least some support for it. I know that in recent years, the anti-deer lobby has been getting a lot more powerful and influencial as we hunters seem to be losing that power and influence. It just seems to be a strange new way of thinking that fits well into the recent changes in regulations and management attitudes that are designed to increase the effectiveness of hunters as a tool for severely reducing the herd size. I just hope that this idea of market hunting doesn't start to get support from some of the many anti-deer forces out there. At the very least, this bill points out just how far these anti-deer alliances are willing to go to get rid of those "pesky critters". Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters I agree with everone! I think that the season in NY is way too short...I originally came from RI where you could hunt deer from Oct to Feb if you hunted all the seasons. If you want to thin the herd, then open the season longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETMGROW Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters This sounds like another political move to garner attention. What did this clown do that he wants to draw attention away from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters I'm definitely all for a longer season. Heck, just over 2 months isn't long enough. Those other two bills just sound stupid and won't go thru. I'm prettys sure it says it in the NYS regs book, the sale of venison is strictly prohibited, especially now that CWD was discovered here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters Longer or earlier starting season...yes, BIG YES. The other 2 proposals definitely NO. With the new DEC commish, who knows whats in store for NY's hunters and the future of hunting in NYS. I believe its gonna be badnews ultimately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckslayer Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: NY Deer Hunters what kind of legislator would want a bill like this to pass? Legislators are supposed to be law abiding people but this bill definitely would have a good chance of making poachers start poaching even more if their getting paid good money for their cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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