BamaTrophyHunter Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 I am looking at a ruger 300 WSM. what does everyone think about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm Two things against it! 1. Ruger! 2. 300 WSM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm [ QUOTE ] Two things against it! 1. Ruger! 2. 300 WSM! [/ QUOTE ] I have loaded for and shot Ruger 77 Mark I and Mark II rifles in .300 Win Mag. All of them have always functioned flawlessly. Their factory triggers have some to be desired. But that's not unique to the Ruger. All the Rugers I've messed with would easilly go 1 1/2" for 5 shots at 100 yards. A good deal less in some instances. As for the .300 WSM.............I have no firsthand experience with the cartridge. In talking to guys that do......I think there's a reason it's gained quite the following that it has. It just plain works. Other than the performance edge the old .300 Mag has by reloading (and to some degree cheaper factory ammo), I can't see a lick of difference between buying one or the other. The .300 WSM (although marginal for bears that bite) will handily flatten anything you'd wish to chase on this continent as far away as you have business shooting at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wthomaslee Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm If you are just going to shoot the gun out of the box or have a gunsmith do all the tweaking, buy a Ruger if you already know you like them. Rugers take alot of extra work to get them the way I like them, nothing is easy. The trigger takes some fine work along with the diagonal front bedding screw is a real pain to bed as well. As far as a 300 WSM, if you do any walking you will love it. It may only be a little lighter but after a mile or two its a lot lighter. If you don't park far from where you hunt and never walk, get the long action. Better yet, get both. The rifle I leave camp with plans what I do later in the day. I lugged a bull barreled 300 RUM all day only once. Now, its a stand only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterDWL Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm As far as the ruger not one of my first choices in a center fire rifle. But as far as the caliber goes love it! I have a few guns in the 300wsm. Have you looked at the tikka or kimber. I have both great guns hope youre choice works for you beacuse youre the one who has to hunt with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm i carried my dads ruger 25-06 one day during deer season and i was scared that the safety was goin to flck off just by hitting my coat. but i got a 300WSM in the new Remington SPS stainless. i cant wait to carry it next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm The 300 WSM is a very good caliber as well as the Ruger M77. I own 3 Ruger M77's, 1 Win Model 70, 2 Browning A-Bolts, 1 Savage 110 and 1 Remington 700. The Ruger M77's are a great and very durable rifle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm Personally, I am not a Ruger fan. They do have a couple great platforms to build nice guns (Blackhawk line, 10/22, No. 1) but I do not like the 77. I have played with a couple of them and I have no room in my safe for one. I have stated a few times in the past about my dislikes with the gun. The tolerances in the action are all over the place. I am not real fond of investment cast actions. I also hate the angled front action screw. Not that you can't do a proper bedding job, its just harder to do correctly than all the others. Sure we are not talking about benchrest guns, but some people have higher standards than others. As for the cartrige, its just another .30 caliber magnum. In the field it will do the same as the 308, 30-06, or any of the various .30 caliber belted magnums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Re: 300 wsm The 300 WSM is a more accurate round than the 300 Win Mag. just as the .308 Win is a more accurate round than the 30-06. The smaller cases allow the powder to burn more uniformly, thus making them more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Re: 300 wsm i cannot speak on the ruger rifle. i do not own a ruger so can't critique it. but i do own a 300wsm browning abolt. it is a fine shooting caliber. very accurate i have shot many inch and a half and a few inch groups at 100 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaTrophyHunter Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Re: 300 wsm I like rugers the only rifles I have are ruger. I was just warndering about the caliber. thanks for all the responses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Goose Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Re: 300 wsm [ QUOTE ] The 300 WSM is a more accurate round than the 300 Win Mag. just as the .308 Win is a more accurate round than the 30-06. The smaller cases allow the powder to burn more uniformly, thus making them more accurate. [/ QUOTE ] Try seating a 220 gr bullet in the 300 wsm and we'll se whos gun is more accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shortmag Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Re: 300 wsm I recently purchased a weatherby sub moa in 300 short mag. I have been searching for info or opinion on this rifle as well. I placed a burris 4.5-14x44 scope on it. It was promised to less than 1 moa at 100 yds. I haven't had the opportuinity to test it yet. any thoughts? how did your rifle turn out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Re: 300 wsm [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The 300 WSM is a more accurate round than the 300 Win Mag. just as the .308 Win is a more accurate round than the 30-06. The smaller cases allow the powder to burn more uniformly, thus making them more accurate. [/ QUOTE ] I have no need in using anything heavier than a 180 grain bullet in Georgia. I only hunt whitetail and black bear. If I need more than a 180, I will get my 300 Win Mag out. Try seating a 220 gr bullet in the 300 wsm and we'll se whos gun is more accurate [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Re: 300 wsm [ QUOTE ] I have no need in using anything heavier than a 180 grain bullet in Georgia. I only hunt whitetail and black bear. [/ QUOTE ] If you want to take that approach, you have no need for anything bigger than a 30-30. Or if long range shooting is offered, a 243 Win or 25-06 Rem will do the job. In factory guns, the cartridge makes little difference in the accuracy. The inherent accuracy of a certain cartridge is only a factor when its a custom gun. The tolerances in a factory gun eliminate any benefit one cartridge has over another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Re: 300 wsm [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I have no need in using anything heavier than a 180 grain bullet in Georgia. I only hunt whitetail and black bear. [/ QUOTE ] If you want to take that approach, you have no need for anything bigger than a 30-30. Or if long range shooting is offered, a 243 Win or 25-06 Rem will do the job. In factory guns, the cartridge makes little difference in the accuracy. The inherent accuracy of a certain cartridge is only a factor when its a custom gun. The tolerances in a factory gun eliminate any benefit one cartridge has over another. [/ QUOTE ] I use a 165 grain Hornady SST for up close and long range shots on whitetail. I like the velocity of the 165 gr in the 3000 fps ball park. You can't get this from a 30-30 or one of the mentioned VARMINT calibers. The velocity may be there, but the bullet weight is not. With the loads I shoot, I get great velocity and shoot a decent sized bullet.I get penetration, accuracy and lots of knock down. These are all the things that anyone would want with a caliber that is used for whitetail deer in the places that I hunt. A 30-30 is something that I would not take to a place where I might get a shot over 100 yards due to accuracy and its loss of energy. The 243 and 25-06 have the range, but not the knockdown that I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Re: 300 wsm So you are saying that you need the performance from a magnum to kill deer? I have killed deer at 300+ yards with a 243 Win shooting a 95 gr Partition bullet and had full penetration and immediate incapacitation. So you are saying this could have been any better with a 165 gr bullet going 3000 fps? Do you think the deer would have felt more threatened or died any quicker if I had a larger caliber or a magnum? The last time I checked, whitetails were not that hard to kill. There is no such thing as "knock down power" in any shoulder fired cartridge. Physics is physics, equal but opposite reaction. If a bullet has the ability to knock anything down you could not fire it from a gun. Keep it real man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminator Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Re: 300 wsm I can kill a deer with a 22LR. I do not have to have a magnum to kill a deer at 300 yards+. I shot a deer two years ago at 358 yards with a .308 Win. I like the room for error with the larger bullet. A 243 does not do as much tissue damage on a deer as a 30 caliber that travels at 3000 fps @ muzzle. You are comparing bb's to baseballs with this one! You let old Nolan Ryan (Back in his prime) throw a marble at you goijng a 100 mph and it is going to hurt. Then let him throw a baseball at you going a 100 mph and you are going to the hospital! What would have happened if you had went through the shoulder? My deer would be missing two shoulders while you spent all day tracking yours. This is real... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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