Guest Andrea Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 As I was leaving the house today to go to the grocery store, I happened to look to my left down the dirt road before I made the right hand turn. There, about 75 yards down the road was a deer. Without a head. And about 30 yards beyond that were 2 carcasses and gut piles. The deer without the head was fully intact otherwise, with no visible sign of injury. They had cut the head off right at the bend of the neck. My husband figures maybe somebody hit it with a car and salvaged the horns. But I still figured it was a complete waste. People like that reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaallly tick me off. And here's the really bad part............the game warden cannot/will not do anything about it. "The folks have to be caught red-handed" was the response I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] People like that reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaallly tick me off. And here's the really bad part............the game warden cannot/will not do anything about it. "The folks have to be caught red-handed" was the response I got. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah they tick me off too Andrea. Unfortunately if it is anything there like it is here, we have one warden covering a county, and he is extremely busy during deer season. They pawn off a lot of issues they could handle if they had the manpower on the sheriffs dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] People like that reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaallly tick me off. And here's the really bad part............the game warden cannot/will not do anything about it. "The folks have to be caught red-handed" was the response I got. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah they tick me off too Andrea. Unfortunately if it is anything there like it is here, we have one warden covering a county, and he is extremely busy during deer season. They pawn off a lot of issues they could handle if they had the manpower on the sheriffs dept. [/ QUOTE ] It's not a manpower thing here. The game warden lives not even a mile from us and all this "carcass dumping". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss That is a shame Andrea. Is it just a bad warden that is too lazy or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] That is a shame Andrea. Is it just a bad warden that is too lazy or what? [/ QUOTE ] I have no idea. Seems lazy to me. Cause I hear he'd write his own mother a ticket if he had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] That is a shame Andrea. Is it just a bad warden that is too lazy or what? [/ QUOTE ] I have no idea. Seems lazy to me. Cause I hear he'd write his own mother a ticket if he had to. [/ QUOTE ] Do you have a tip line? Might call in and demand an investigation anonymously. Maybe report him if he is not doing his job. Here I was pretty disgusted with the trespassing issues we had. They told me I would be better off getting the sheriffs dept involved as the judge here most often with the twra cases will throw out trespassing cases where they are not 100 percent by the book, which really is screwed up because they also have a law here that says a hunter has to have written permission from the landowner on them at all times when on private property or they can be fined. Guess the laws here are kind of screwy with loopholes, that coupled with lack of manpower makes for easy poaching around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAstringking Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss thats really horrible to hear. i cant stand people that shoot and dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outdoor_Guy Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss People like that give non hunters ammunition to use against responsible hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss Although it was a waste of a deer, what's the big deal about cutting the antlers off if you hit it with a car? I can understand if the deer was shot and then only the head was taken, but with a car, what's the big deal if it's legal? I know plenty of people that drive around with a bow saw and cut the skull caps off roadkill bucks. But like I said, if the deer wasn't shot, then what's the big deal about taking the antlers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss Is there any houses nearby of people he could interview?? Other than having a witness, unfortunately, it would be tough to solve something like this and although he may not be busy with other stuff, there is such a minor chance of finding who did it without a tip, or a lead, it would be tough to prove, then successfully prosecute. Sounds horrible, but that stuff goes on every day. Sometimes nothing gets done because of that. Think about it this way...if you were going to try and find the person responsible yourself...where would you start...who would you talk to?? And remember, you may have limited resources available to you like most Game Wardens do. I do agree however this this is a total waste...just trying to play the devils advocate and explain as to why "possibly", he said there was nothing he could do. Unless it continually happens in one spot, and it is random...it would even be tough "staking out" an area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] Although it was a waste of a deer, what's the big deal about cutting the antlers off if you hit it with a car? I can understand if the deer was shot and then only the head was taken, but with a car, what's the big deal if it's legal? I know plenty of people that drive around with a bow saw and cut the skull caps off roadkill bucks. But like I said, if the deer wasn't shot, then what's the big deal about taking the antlers? [/ QUOTE ] Joe, the big deal is that this goes on ALL THE TIME on my road. There's quite a stretch of dirt road that doesn't have anyone living on it. So these jerks think it's fine to come dump their gutpiles and carcasses and deer remains here. It's disgusting. Every week there's a new pile. So you'd think that it would be easy to figure out who may be doing this. If I were the game warden I'd stake a truck out there randomly during the week. If nothing else....just to let the people who are doing this know that I was trying to catch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss Unfortunately Ken, afraid that in some areas there are some who are in positions who would rather turn the cheek than get involved. Not by any means making that comment with any derogatory intentions directed towards all who uphold the law as I respect them a great deal, but for whatever reasons there are those bad apples or lazy ones out there who will simply not do what they are supposed to. Really I can understand their frustration in some instances where they may possibly even get burned out, I mean after all if you catch people repeatedly only to have a judge let them go, because the law is written in favor of the violators, then it would be easy to see why some officers might not be all that gung ho about trying to investigate. All that said, least the game officer could have done is filed a formal complaint and come out and looked and offered to patrol the area in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] Every week there's a new pile. So you'd think that it would be easy to figure out who may be doing this. If I were the game warden I'd stake a truck out there randomly during the week. [/ QUOTE ] This Andrea, makes it worth looking into further. That part was not in your original post. Not speaking for your guy, but if it was me, I would try some enforcement by patrolling in an unmarked vehicle and catching someone on the side of the road. They will spot the DEC vehicle and will only stop until the heat is off. That is how scumbags work. I personally would not "sit" there, but would patrol it numerous times throughout a shift to see if someone is ever "sitting" on the side of the road in a vehicle, maybe even slowing or stopping, or pulling away. Since it has been occurring all the time, I would definitely think he could at least put forth some effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss Sounds like a good place to put an infra red trail cam and catch'em red handed! Yeah I'd be pissed if I had too if I had to deal with dumped carcass' often. Good luck catching them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razortec_hunter Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss what will non hunters think of us if people do dumb stuff like that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razortec_hunter Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss i also saw a buck along the highway like that. my sister in law saw a big buck on the way in and on the way back it had it's head cut off!!!!! atleast take the whole thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss Thats pretty brave duing that so close to the wardens house. Almost like someone is taughting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckslayer Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss man thats terrible hope you find a solution to that problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesVee Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss I'm with Joe. It happens in a lot of places, and fairly often. Deer get hit by cars all of the time, and big bucks are a good portion of those deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest txzbaddboy Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss snoop around, gotta be 1 of ur neighbors, your game warden down the street aint gonna do nothing , cause then he would have to work nites and leave that nice warm bed.People like to brag, you just gotta now how to play them.then when you do find out some info, operation game theft.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest txzbaddboy Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss like adjam5 said,,trailcam your road, get pics of the vehicles...good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss Maybe IT'S THE WARDEN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tecumseh Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss We had a real problem where I hunt this year finding deer shot and left where they lay,I aslo found two buck's with just the skull and antlers missing.I'm working with the Game Warden but I don't expect anything to come of it.God help the people doing it if I ever catch them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] Thats pretty brave duing that so close to the wardens house. Almost like someone is taughting him. [/ QUOTE ] They probably have no idea he lives there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Re: Ready to cuss [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Thats pretty brave duing that so close to the wardens house. Almost like someone is taughting him. [/ QUOTE ] They probably have no idea he lives there. [/ QUOTE ] Hate to sound cynical here, but you never know. Seeing that the warden is unwilling to do anything, maybe they know him and know he wont do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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