slaw Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 In the event we have an odd number of hunters where every team doesn't have the same amount of hunters, let a team designate a hunter prior to the season, who will be allowed to submit a second bird. teams will need to talk it over and decide who would be best for this position and designate the hunter of choice. this would level the playing field for teams that don't have as many hunters out there as others do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Colorado Bob Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: contest suggestion I don't like the idea. Just make the number come out even for every team. Maybe it would be 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 hunters per team. Lots of states only allow 1 bird. Who knows if every team will have a hunter who can harvest 2 birds. Plus it will give a BIG avantage to a team where the 2nd bird would come from a farm state where they REALLY grow some big birds. I like the 1st bird rule. CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaw Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: contest suggestion I understand, but last year we a few teams with one less hunter on their team, the rest had more hunters out hunting. In the event that would happen again it would only level the playing field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: contest suggestion Its not a bad idea slaw...I actually thought about that. But then like CB said...what if there is a team with hunters only allowed to kill one bird? We'll try are darnest to even the teams out the best we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaw Posted February 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Re: contest suggestion the ones with multiple tags could say so like myself, I'm getting 2 tags(lucky to fill one though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Re: contest suggestion Sounds like a pretty good idea to me honestly to level out the numbers, might make it a little easier on the mods too for those teams that have a member short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Re: contest suggestion I think it could work. What is the odds of team of 5 or 6 and all of them being from a state that only allows 1 bird?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Re: contest suggestion [ QUOTE ] What is the odds of team of 5 or 6 and all of them being from a state that only allows 1 bird?? [/ QUOTE ] Really don't know what the actual odds are...however it is posible that it could happen. Then we have only one or two teams short members/birds. So we then have to try and arrange teams so it doesn't happen that way. The point of this contest is to have fun and bragging rights. It wouldn't be much fun if the teams were "made" up instead of randomly put together. Guess we'll have to wait and see how many members we have...seperate all the contestants by adult/youth and species...then put the teams together. If we have a few teams short members...then we can try to get alternates to sign up or maybe discuss allowing those teams to have a member harvest more than one bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: contest suggestion I think last year, a deer or turkey contest, there was an odd number, not enough divy out to temas or make a team with same amount, so there was a special sign-up for anyone who didn't sign-up yet to get signed up so the teams could be evened out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: contest suggestion TG that's what I've done for the deer contest the last couple years, usually only takes a few days to fill the remaining spots. LOL there's always someone that forgets to sign-up until after the deadline ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: contest suggestion From the contest sign-up thread: "Sign-up will be open through 11:59 P.M. February 26, 2007. There will be no late sign-ups or additional teams added after this date!! Any late entries will only be considered if alternates are needed on existing teams. Alternates will be on a "first come-first served" basis. Teams will then be assigned prior to 12:00 A.M. March 3, 2007. This oughta alleviate yer fears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 257Roberts Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Re: contest suggestion I've also got a suggestion. Instead of having to enter your first bird let you enter the biggest bird you kill. This would give an advantage to people who are allowed to kill more than one bird in thier state but it would at least even the playing field for the honest folks. I always felt like there was a lot of sandbagging going on. Then say if you had a team with say 5 members and everyone else had 6 you could take the "SMALLEST" bird from on of the other team members to round out the 6 birds and take the largest 4 birds. Sounds kinda confussing but that might help. Normally though if a team is short a member they leave out a youth spot, or inexsperience member spot (someone with few post.) This kinda evens it up anyway. I think they do a pretty good job on this every year and i have enjoyed participating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Re: contest suggestion [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What is the odds of team of 5 or 6 and all of them being from a state that only allows 1 bird?? [/ QUOTE ] Really don't know what the actual odds are...however it is posible that it could happen. The point of this contest is to have fun and bragging rights. It wouldn't be much fun if the teams were "made" up instead of randomly put together. [/ QUOTE ] Anything is possible. Good points! I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Re: contest suggestion [ QUOTE ] Instead of having to enter your first bird let you enter the biggest bird you kill. [/ QUOTE ] If I am not mistaken in the turkey contest like the deer hunting contest you are allowed to upgrade are you not? [ QUOTE ] Normally though if a team is short a member they leave out a youth spot, or inexsperience member spot (someone with few post.) This kinda evens it up anyway. I think they do a pretty good job on this every year and i have enjoyed participating. [/ QUOTE ] Dont honestly think post count has anything to do with turkey hunting experience. I will be the first to admit, I am not that experienced with turkey hunting and while I can get them to gobble, I cannot call a bird in to save my life. I am sure there are newbies here that will come in that have way more experience than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Re: contest suggestion [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Instead of having to enter your first bird let you enter the biggest bird you kill. [/ QUOTE ] If I am not mistaken in the turkey contest like the deer hunting contest you are allowed to upgrade are you not? [/ QUOTE ] The turkey contest only allows you to enter the first bird that you shoot, no upgrades, heres the quote from the rules... [ QUOTE ] You must enter your first bird taken for the season… even if you are allowed more than one. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Re: contest suggestion Thanks Gary. Somehow I missed that in the rules. Funny thing I went back in looked this morning and still did not see that. Guess that in mind, maybe there could be some sandbagging going on and maybe it should be where you are allowed to upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Re: contest suggestion Ummmmmm I'm confused...how can there be sandbagging if your to enter your first bird? If you hold out for a big bird...you may or may not get a bird because of it. In the past there have been teams that won simply because they had 4 birds to turn it and 1 of them was a jake! Yes size matters in the contest....but at least 4 kills matters more. You could kill the biggest bird on your team...but if your team doesn't kill 4 birds...then it don't matter. The reason we enter the first bird is to make it fair to the folks who can only kill one bird. If a member were allowed to "upgrade"...then they could go out and whack a jake right off the bat for the team...but continue to hunt and try to kill a bigger bird. It should be up to the hunter to decide what is a trophy to them and whether they want to hold out for a big bird or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaw Posted February 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Re: contest suggestion not to cause controversy, but isn't that what the deer contest does,upgrade....not everybody is allowed to take multiple bucks either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Re: contest suggestion This is not the deer contest, ya'll. It's the turkey contest. The deer contest is Need2hunt's and he does a durn fine job of it. The turkey contest is Snapper's, Nut's and mine. Howzabout a little faith that between the 3 of us we can, somehow, figure how to pull this off in a fairly-played manner?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Re: contest suggestion Also, correct me if I'm wrong but this is the 5th year to have a turkey contest. The rules have always been for every participant to enter their 1st bird. The only change I see in the rules is the requirement for us to enter our weights in pounds and ounces. I've always done that but many haven't. Many state's do have 1 or 2 bird limits. Some of those states further limit hunting opportunities to a week of hunting. Add to that the limited amount of time some hunters have to hunt too. I happen to live in a state that has a 3 bird bag limit along with a 47 day spring turkey season. I also have the freedom to hunt any day of the week. I know in 2 of the past years' contest my 1st bird ending up being a 2 year old and the smallest I killed those seasons. Add to those 3 birds that I have in my state bag limit at least one trip per spring I take out of state. That further increases my opportunities of bagging bigger birds. This year and last year it's been Texas in a part that has a 4 bird limit. Now, how fair is it for someone like me to be able to upgrade through 4 to 7 birds killed over the course of a spring turkey season when most other teams don't have teammates that can do that. Bottom line is.... It's not!!! Like Strut said...the contest is mainly for fun, bragging rights, and to pass along some turkey hunting experience through our turkey tales. JMHO....if you're in it for something other than that, you're in it for the wrong reason. As the old saying goes...If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Re: contest suggestion well said Rhino, it's a fun internet contest. Some people get way to into this stuff. Just have fun and if you get a bird for your team great. It's not like there is a 20 grand prize for the winners. Have fun with it guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Re: contest suggestion I will be 1st alternate to help even out teams if necessary. Poor choice for some team since I spend my turkey hunting time helping youths and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: contest suggestion [ QUOTE ] Ummmmmm I'm confused...how can there be sandbagging if your to enter your first bird? [/ QUOTE ] While I would not make any accusations of someone doing this, since it was pointed, guess I could see where there could potentially be some participants who might not be truthfull about whether or not it is indeed their first bird. I agree it should be all about getting out there and having fun. Unfortunately sometimes we dont know some of the people who sign up for these contest well if at all. Had someone on our team in the deer hunting contest who tried to enter a deer that had been killed in a previous season. You just never know abotu some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: contest suggestion William....I don't doubt there has been some dishonesty before but there's not much that can been done about it unless they are caught. If caught I guess they just get black balled for life. Might as well kick back and just enjoy what comes and leave the mods with the job of policing the contest. I'm not going to let that interfere with my fun or loose any sleep worrying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: contest suggestion [ QUOTE ] Might as well kick back and just enjoy what comes and leave the mods with the job of policing the contest. I'm not going to let that interfere with my fun or loose any sleep worrying about it. [/ QUOTE ] Well said, could not agree more Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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