Guest Phaseolus (BeanMan) Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Pit bull's attack kills small dog By Manny Gonzales Denver Post Staff Writer Article Last Updated: 02/07/2007 06:19:26 AM MST 9News Killer attacked two small dogs, but the vet who treated all three says the pit bull is friendly to humans. (The Denver Post)He was shot twice in the neck, but Killer the pit bull would not die. His victim, Minnie, a Pomeranian, was not as fortunate. The Pomeranian had to be put down after the 70-pound Killer jumped a neighbor's fence, attacking her and a Jack Russell terrier. The owner tried to save his dogs by shooting the pit bull twice with a small-caliber pistol, authorities said. Three students from a nearby school helped pull the dog off the terrier and pinned Killer until authorities arrived. "My understanding is that the pit bull that was shot ... is doing remarkably well, considering all the injuries it sustained," Lakewood police spokesman Steve Davis said. Police were called about 2 p.m. Monday to the 1300 block of Allison Street in Lakewood, where the pit bull was subdued. Matt Burdic told KUSA Channel 9 that he shot the dog twice and three teenage boys walking by came to his aid. One of the boys, a student at a nearby alternative high school, was carrying a knife and stabbed at the dog, Davis said. A veterinarian who treated Killer couldn't find stab wounds on the animal. All three dogs were taken to Access Vet Clinic, where veterinarian Victoria Gomez said the Pomeranian had to be euthanized because of its injuries. The pit bull still had two bullets lodged in tissue near its skull when it was moved to another animal hospital. "The bullets sure didn't seem to slow the dog down any," Gomez said. "He's actually very friendly toward people, but was aggressive toward other dogs." Animal control supervisor Holly Gilbertson said that Killer had been renamed Bogus in recent days by its owners, who said they rescued the dog from a previous owner who kept him in deplorable conditions. "It doesn't look like this dog has much of a future anyway," Gilbertson said. Five other pit bulls, two of them puppies, were impounded from the home. One of the owners of the pit bulls, whom authorities did not identify, was issued a summons for charges including possession of a vicious animal, possession of more than the limited number of animals and neglect, Gilbertson said. "The ... owner is quite upset about the whole situation and was just very apologetic for the neighbor's loss," Gilbertson said. A social services representative was called to the home because two young children also live there. However, the children were not taken from the home at this time, Davis said. Police are not pursuing charges against Burdic for firing a pistol or the teen for being in possession of the knife, Davis said. Staff writer Manny Gonzales can be reached at 303-954-1537 or [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Well, the owner of the small dogs had every right to shoot the dog. He jumped his fence and attacked the smaller dogs. I hope they put the pit bull to sleep. And I hope the owner of the pit bull is penalized somehow. And how do you determine if a pit bull will always be friendly towards people??? What if that had been a toddler??? Something smaller than himself....he may have tried to attack a baby!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfletch7441 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Those are vicious animals. The owners should definitely be penalized, and the dog shouldn't taken another breath. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Why did he only shoot twice? Empty the gun into the dog's heart and lung area at such an angle that it kills the dog. Also an ad for carrying a larger autoloader....say as in my Kimber Tactical Custom II. That pit bull wouldn't have taken two hollowpoints from it and kept going. Less that us deer hunters know....shooting and animal in the head is iffy at best. Take out the heart and the lungs and you will end the attack. Too bad these beasts don't attack and kill the owners...just innocent animals and kids and women. Let one of those bad boys come attack me....I will open up a can of whoop alpo on it! New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill OTPG You just never know when it might be needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] He was shot twice in the neck, but Killer the pit bull would not die. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously the person doing the shooting was not a member of the OTPG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill OTPG? New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Sounds like a mixed breed dog that was not raised right. Before everyone jumps on this pit bulls are bad bandwagon, they really should learn a little more about the breed. Full blooded pit bulls rarely get to the 70lb. mark. Full blooded dogs are very loyal to their owners and are not usually violent in nature. It is more often that the dogs that are vicious are effects of inbreeding which in reality causes more problems with more breeds than just pit bulls. As for what happened, the owners should be held accountable for not keeping their animals properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] Sounds like a mixed breed dog that was not raised right. Before everyone jumps on this pit bulls are bad bandwagon, they really should learn a little more about the breed. Full blooded pit bulls rarely get to the 70lb. mark. Full blooded dogs are very loyal to their owners and are not usually violent in nature. It is more often that the dogs that are vicious are effects of inbreeding which in reality causes more problems with more breeds than just pit bulls. As for what happened, the owners should be held accountable for not keeping their animals properly. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but if you look at the total number of fatal dog attacks, I'm sure Pit Bulls are the #1 culprit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] Those are vicious animals. The owners should definitely be penalized, and the dog shouldn't taken another breath. [/ QUOTE ] Very sad for the owner of the two smaller dogs...but I surely wouldn't lump all Pit Bulls as being vicious animals. It wasn't a toddler/baby so lets not jump to conclusions...I'm sure if the dog ever attacked a human...the news would have stated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill This boils down to a simple problem. You have people willing to play the odds with someone else's family and/or pets on the flawed statement that 'not all pit bulls or rottweilers are dangerous'. Naw, my dog would never do that is what EVERY SINGLE OWNER HAS SAID....right after they did it. At some point, the odds of an attack are so overwhelming that it makes the breed not worth possessing. There are a thousand other breeds of dogs but some idiots continue to play russian roulette with someone else's family or pet. Outlaw them and Rottweilers. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sounds like a mixed breed dog that was not raised right. Before everyone jumps on this pit bulls are bad bandwagon, they really should learn a little more about the breed. Full blooded pit bulls rarely get to the 70lb. mark. Full blooded dogs are very loyal to their owners and are not usually violent in nature. It is more often that the dogs that are vicious are effects of inbreeding which in reality causes more problems with more breeds than just pit bulls. As for what happened, the owners should be held accountable for not keeping their animals properly. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but if you look at the total number of fatal dog attacks, I'm sure Pit Bulls are the #1 culprit. [/ QUOTE ] Was a good post in here a year or so ago on this Eric and someone posted some stats. Surprisingly many of the dogs referred to as "pit bulls" are not true pit bulls but are instead mixed breed dogs. Have heard ignorant people call boxers and other breeds pit bulls due to their lack of ability to tell the difference. Think often people assume that becuase a dog is vicious and might look llike a pit bull to them that they may call it that even though it is not. The dogs get a bad rap, just like rottweilers and dobermans. Honestly I think the chows are the most vicious dogs by nature and have a far more aggresive nature than any true full blooded staffordshire or pit bull terrier or even bull mastiff bull terrier mixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] Outlaw them and Rottweilers. [/ QUOTE ] Now there's an intellgent comment! You think this would have made the news if it would have been a Lab that killed these two small dogs? Sorry, but my Rotty is my home scurity system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] This boils down to a simple problem. You have people willing to play the odds with someone else's family and/or pets on the flawed statement that 'not all pit bulls or rottweilers are dangerous'. Naw, my dog would never do that is what EVERY SINGLE OWNER HAS SAID....right after they did it. At some point, the odds of an attack are so overwhelming that it makes the breed not worth possessing. There are a thousand other breeds of dogs but some idiots continue to play russian roulette with someone else's family or pet. Outlaw them and Rottweilers. New [/ QUOTE ] Now that is a sad mentality right there. Lot of things kill, do we outlaw them all? Sounds like a comment an anti gun idiot might make to be honest( that is not meant to be directed at you as being anti gun, just is a similar type mindset). Do a little research and find out more about the breeds before making comments like this. Best dog we ever owned was pure bred staffordshire terrier(pit bull) followed by a pit bull black lab mix. Somewhere I have pictures of that pit bull laying with a kitten sleeping on her. She was good with kids and good around ALL other animals. Pure breds are not at all volatile. The association with this breed for its ability has given it a bad rap, and the dog breed gets far more credit than it really should for attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHuntr1 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Now Come on guys...it is true most Rottweilers and Pitbulls are not the friendliest of dogs. And that is plain and simple true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeanHetzel Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill It is a shame really. I think it is really bad what people have done with the Pit Bull bread, the Pit Bull originally was a great family dog and very obedient. Through over breading and breading these dogs for fighting, these people have taken a good bread and turned it really bad. I, myself have two german shepards, directly imported from Germany and even GSDs have taken on a bad rap in this country due to the same thing. I even have a hard time getting home owners insurance because of it, it is a shame. My dongs are some of the most friendly dogs you could ever see to dogs and people. Just dont try to come in my house when nobody is home. With all of that said the guy that shot the Pit Bull had every right to shoot the dog or do what ever he needed to do to get it off of his dogs. Dont blame the breed, blame the idiots who breed them with no concern to the breed. And for the people who want to ban any of these dogs, they are the idiots that are uneducated about why things happen. Regulated breeding is what needs to be done not banning the breed. FYI, my buddies lab is more agressive than my two shepards. Being the educated about why this stuff happens is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] Now Come on guys...it is true most Rottweilers and Pitbulls are not the friendliest of dogs. And that is plain and simple true. [/ QUOTE ] TRUE? Where did you get that info.? The local News network? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Sounds like a mixed breed dog that was not raised right. Before everyone jumps on this pit bulls are bad bandwagon, they really should learn a little more about the breed. Full blooded pit bulls rarely get to the 70lb. mark. Full blooded dogs are very loyal to their owners and are not usually violent in nature. It is more often that the dogs that are vicious are effects of inbreeding which in reality causes more problems with more breeds than just pit bulls. As for what happened, the owners should be held accountable for not keeping their animals properly. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but if you look at the total number of fatal dog attacks, I'm sure Pit Bulls are the #1 culprit. [/ QUOTE ] Was a good post in here a year or so ago on this Eric and someone posted some stats. Surprisingly many of the dogs referred to as "pit bulls" are not true pit bulls but are instead mixed breed dogs. Have heard ignorant people call boxers and other breeds pit bulls due to their lack of ability to tell the difference. Think often people assume that becuase a dog is vicious and might look llike a pit bull to them that they may call it that even though it is not. The dogs get a bad rap, just like rottweilers and dobermans. Honestly I think the chows are the most vicious dogs by nature and have a far more aggresive nature than any true full blooded staffordshire or pit bull terrier or even bull mastiff bull terrier mixes. [/ QUOTE ] My sister is actually really involved with Pit Bull protective groups (why we consider her the black sheep of the family...only kidding ) and her main defense is that the owners of the dogs are mostly to blame. I'll agree with that. But my main concern is that when a Chow, Pug or Pomeranian bites you...they don't have the ability to kill you. Pit Bulls are a vicious breed, key word "breed" they have been bred for centuries to be violent dogs, with super strong muscle and jaws. All I know is I wouldn't let one around my kids...assuming I had kids. Also, if you talked to the families of Pit Bull attack victims, or the victims themselves (if they were lucky to survive the attack), I'm sure they'd have their own "unique" take on Pit Bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill I believe that pitt bulls and rottweilers are genetically predisposed to violent behavior. It's how the owners raise them, socialize them and train or shall we say....NOT train them that makes all the difference. And unfortunately, most of these animals are poorly trained and are left to attack innocent people and other dogs. 99% of the people who own pitts or rotties own them for one reason only.....BECAUSE they are known to attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHuntr1 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Including my dads buddy who works for the post office in Toledo, says that when he delivers mail he hates those dogs , they are not friendly at all, and especially when there owners not home. Okay....try to get near a dog thats away from its owner. First...try a rott...it wont happen Next Try a Lab...Odds are alot better that it could happen. Hmm....Our Neighbor Who has owned Rotts since he was a kid, and his dad before them even says you cant trust a rott, you have to be very slow until they get to know you, and even then you cant trust them Pitbulls are just a mean dog....heck i see it on the news here all the time about pitbulls biting people. INCLUDING Yesterday on the news a pitbull chewed a kids foot off, the kid had spinobifida and couldnt do nothing but sit there while it happend. Okay so maybe you think your dog is god. It isnt. and i really would wonder what would happen to animals if your dog got outside and was wandering around. It may be good near you But away from you Who Knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHuntr1 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill Dogs are dogs..heck i wouldnt trust my dog if it got away from me, shes well trained, but you just never know, its an animal. But...A dog that can take down a human easily..aka a rott should not be trusted like a lab. imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] But my main concern is that when a Chow [/ QUOTE ] Do you know what a Chow is Eric? A chow is an oriental fighting dog. I am not referring to a chow chow toy dog. Chows are 60 lbs or better and are quite vicious. As for a breed having a genetic disposition, do a little research. When I lived in Florida I heard of people giving fighting dogs for the pitts gun powder, tying a weight around the dogs neck making them drag it and other types of things to TURN the dogs mean. Any dog can have bite, just so happens that the true pit bulls have more pressure they are able to apply with their bite. That does not mean that the nature of those dogs is vicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] Now Come on guys...it is true most Rottweilers and Pitbulls are not the friendliest of dogs. And that is plain and simple true. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe not to you. But that ain't my Rottweiler's job........to be your lap dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] But my main concern is that when a Chow, Pug or Pomeranian bites you...they don't have the ability to kill you. [/ QUOTE ] muggs....you ever see a Chow????? lol Oh, it has the ability to seriously hurt and or kill you! [ QUOTE ] 99% of the people who own pitts or rotties own them for one reason only.....BECAUSE they are known to attack. [/ QUOTE ] You honestly believe that? 99%...wow, glad I'm in the elite group of that 1% of hundreds of thousands of those owners. Look...I'm not defending all Rotts or Pit bulls (although its usally the owners fault) some folks do train them to be mean (would go as far as saying 99%) but some do. This owner of the Pit bull in this article is at fault PERIOD. His dog shouldn't even had the chance to jump the fence. I'll tell another thing that makes dogs (not just Rotts and Pit bulls) are kids or people tormenting them. When I lived in town...I put up a 6' high chain link fence all the way around my yard...kept it 6' away from property lines and sidewalks. I had neighbor kids poking sticks through the fence at my Lab and Rotty...throwing rocks over the fence at my dogs etc... I wonder why if my dog would have ever gotten out he would have attacked those kids? Keep in mind...its not always the dogs fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Re: Another Pitt Bull Kill [ QUOTE ] muggs....you ever see a Chow????? lol Oh, it has the ability to seriously hurt and or kill you! [/ QUOTE ] how many people have been killed by a Chow? how many people killed by a Pit Bull? Lets let the stats into this debate.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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