plannerman Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Just cleaned my Encore barrel after the seaon. It seems that after every cleaining, more and more corrosion appears in the barrel. I clean between shots in the field with a wet TC patch followed by dry patches. After firing multiple shots in a day, I remove the plug and completely clean the barrel. I cleaned the barrel with CVA's plastic removing solvent. Followed that with Butch's Bore Shine to further remove powder and copper fouling. Finally ran patches with oil down the barrel. 2 days after this celaning process, I look down with a bore light and see these patches of what have to be corrosion. Actually it looks like melted lead in blotches about the diameter of .22 bullet. Most of this appears to be in the last 3 inches of the barrel. I'm used to some corrosion near the breech since that was there when I bought the barrel used (1 year old). This is driving me crazy. I can see if I shot, ran a patch or 2 and stored the gun, but I do clean the guns and well, or at least I thought so. Any suggestions or remedy? Do you think lapping would remove some of these spots? The rifling looks great, just the crap in the groves and near the muzzle. Go figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? It seems like you are doing pretty much what I do with my Encore. What type of powder are you using, and do you use a brass wire brush cleaning ? I did do a lapping job on my barrel a few years back. too_pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plannerman Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? T7 last year - hated it! Pyrodex in all other cases, including this year. I've found this gun to be much more accurate shooting pyro. As for the corrosion, I'm at wits-end. I'm starting to wonder if all these BP guns start to do this eventually. I'd given my left little finger to keep my BP barrels as bright shiny and flawless as my centerfires. Think lapping would remove some of this is or it too late. Almost thinking it may be too late to remove this crust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plannerman Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? I guess I was too busy trying to respond before my Vikings kick the blue crap out of your Lions!!! Yes I do use the brass brush and clean the oil/solvent out of the barrel with Windex, the dry the barrel before applying the oil. Thanks for the JB paste info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? [ QUOTE ] I guess I was too busy trying to respond before my Vikings kick the blue crap out of your Lions [/ QUOTE ] Hmm, winning by 1 point isn't kicking the crap out of our useless Lions LOL. Hey, anybody can beat them, your not special As far as your question, I'm lost like my Lions LOL. Lapping probably would do a good job getting it back to good shape, but I'm still puzzled on why you are having that problem too_pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plannerman Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? Almost wish you guy would've won...almost! Good game I suppose, sure sucks to be your long snapper. Thanks for the information, I'm starting to wonder if the more I clean, the more the imperfections are being revealed. Maybe these spots were "glossed over" with residue or "seasoned" to the point I've never noticed them. Anyway, the rifling looks sound and you can't really see the inside of the barrel. As long as the gun still shoots I'm in business! P.S. Does it sound like I'm tyring to convince myself the problem was there when I bought the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? plannerman, is it shooting good for you ? Read bluelk's chapters for a good idea on how to lap, thats pretty much what I followed. I lapped my Encore before I ever ran a shot through it. I have really good accuracy with mine, don't know for sure if it was the lapping, but it didn't hurt I have suggested before in here to lap barrels if your not happy with accuracy, but not sure how many followed my advice.!! It does take some elbow grease ! Good luck with it. too_pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plannerman Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? Now that the gun is clean (but apparently disintegrating before my eyes), I'll wait to lap until later this winter. Not too concerned about the elbow grease as I have approximately 3 hours already invested in: solvent patch, brush, solvent patch, clean patch, clean patch, bore light, ... solvent patch, brush, solvent patch, clean patch, clean patch, bore light... curse, whine, cry... solvent patch, brush, etc.... ... look for new barrel (mayber a .45) on Gunbroker. com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plannerman Posted December 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? I'm not ducking you questions, just a little absent minded and distracted. Until 2 years ago (I've had the gun 4 years) I used the Hoppe's oil in my rifle cleaning kit. Last and this year its Inhibitor V80. As for the Queens, I'd agree they aren't going far. Seem they can't make up their minds to run Smith or Bennett. Bennett's a mistake, first of he's from Wisconsin, second he's one of those porcelin "track guys". Geez, send Moss deep... go figure? Anyway, my real team is Indianpolips!!! Go Payton, Marvin "the martian", Edgerin and Stokely!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? Plannerman, if you want to try to get some of the corrosion out of the barrel before you lap it try your wire brush on a cordless drill.A buddy of mine did this and hasnt had any problems since with rust reapearing.Keep it on a real low setting, dont over tighten the drill on your cleaning rod and run it up and down the barrel with the drill going really slowly, you dont want to run the drill wide open. After you get the crap reamed outta the barrel this way clean the whole thing again thoroughgly and oil it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? It almost sounds like lead build up to me. Try running a remover screen down the barrel. I would not run a brush on a drill in a barrel! ( No offense to my buddy Horst) This will round off one side of the lands. I think Outers makes an electric lead remover also. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plannerman Posted December 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? Zoo - what's a lead screen??? Sounds like this may be my problem. A buddy did use this gun last weekend (I was with him) and he shot the lead PowerBelts out the gun whereas I've shot the jacketed bullet. Seems awful quick to get that much lead in the barrel, but at this point I'll try anyting. Come to think of it, he did shoot like 15 times at targets/deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? I think you can buy them at Brownells. They are a jag & screen that are driven down the barrel to scrape the lead out of the bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Re: Barrel corrosion? No offense taken Zoobear, I forgot to add to wrap a patch around the brush before you do this, it keeps the wire brush from directly contacting the inside of the barrel but it still tight enough to get into the rifling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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