ryan1990 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 ive been shooting cx100 arrows and i just bought some terminator 4560 arrows and they are inaccurate. can anyone tell me what to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Re: arrow problem First make sure your shooting the proper spined arrow for your draw length, and draw weight, then re-tune your rest. This is one of the reasons you should always shoot matching arrows. Even though 2 arrows my be properly spined for your set-up, if they are not the same arrows, chances are they will fly differently. Welcome to the forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnatecsteve Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem Yeah..what Buckee said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem ok thanks. last season was my first season to bowhunt so i still dont know a whole lot about it. what exactly do you meen by re-tune my rest? i have a whisker biscuit. and my draw length is 27 1/2 and my weight is 65. so are these the right arrows? they seam thicker than the cx 100's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem either 340 or 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem so are these right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem [ QUOTE ] so are these right? [/ QUOTE ] NO draw length: 27 1/2 Total Arrow length: Approx 28-29" Draw Weight: 65lbs If your draw length is 27 1/2" then your arrows must be between 28" and 29"...right? (measuring from the inside of the groove in the nock to the end of the insert at the oposite end) The TX100's are way under spined for your specs, and are only rated for 30 to 40 lb draw weight. You shouldn't be shooting these at 65 lbs, at all. They could blow up in your face they are so underspined. The TR4560's are also underspined and are only rated for 45 to 60 lbs. Better, but still not right. The TR4560's are a stiffer spined arrow, but still underspined for your set-up, according to the chart. That's also the reason they shoot differently. Chart Here: http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/pdf/hunting_cx_2007_arrow_guide.pdf According to the Carbon Express Chart, you should be shooting ED350, TR6075, HE350, CX300, or Max350 TX100 - 30-40# Bow TR4560 - 45-60# Bow ED350 - 65-80# Bow TR6075 - 60-75# Bow HE350 - 65-80# Bow CX300 - 65-75# Bow Max350 - 65-80# Bow My advise if your shooting 65lbs now, and maybe plan on upping the lbs a bit in the future, is to get rid of those arrows you have now, before one blows up in your face, Also, take your bow into a bow shop and get them to give you some tuning pointers, and recheck arrow selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem Would just add one thing to buckee's post. It's becoming more and more common for arrows to be less than your draw length. For instance, I have a 30 inch draw but my arrows are cut 28 3/4. Probably from a combination of the newer broadheads and today's rests having more adjustments for "overdraw", these types of set-ups are very accurate and achieve excellent broadhead flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem ok thanks man. i might just get my bow lowered to 60 and keep the 4560's cuz i just bought them and had them cut and dont wanna waste them. and im just curious but do you need to retune your bow everytime you get a different type of arrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem [ QUOTE ] Just curious but do you need to re-tune your bow every time you get a different type of arrow? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I've always had too, unless they are the exact same arrows I was already shooting. Providing your bow was set up properly in the first place, (eg. arrow nock point set right, centre shot set right) You shouldn't have to adjust your rest from side to side if your centre shot is on. I would paper tune your bow as soon as possible, and go from there. PAPER TUNING...etc http://www.bowhuntingmag.com/tactics/tune_0112/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem Have you got a Bow-shop close by ? Take it in there and get them to look it over and check the poundage for you, and ask lots of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem yeah kings archery. thats were i bought my bow. and my bow was tuned right at first. i was shooting 3 shots in a 3 inch bullseye at 25 yards and i havent been shooting that long. ill look into that paper tuning. thanks youve been a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem ryan, it may actually be easier for you to try walk back tuning. You will need a fairly tall target to shoot at it, but it is easier to do at home than paper tuning. Try this link. Walk back tuning explained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem Walk Back Tuning is a good way of finding center shot, for sure. Paper tuning is a good way of checking your nocking point, or the up and down rest adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem yeah im gonna try walk back tuning as soon as it warms up out side. i think being all bundled up is effecting my shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem yall have been a big help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem One thing to remember if you do papertune is to be sure and start up close 4 to 6 feet from the paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Re: arrow problem ok i think my nocking point is pretty well set though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Re: arrow problem remember your bbow shoots best at its max draw and poundege... -anthony .: lay the smack down :. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Re: arrow problem [ QUOTE ] remember your bow shoots best at its max draw and poundage... -anthony .: lay the smack down :. [/ QUOTE ] Although this may be true for trajectory purposes, it's a big mistake to shoot more poundage than you're comfortable with. A huge mistake, that might cost you a big buck someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Re: arrow problem lol yes yes but buckee you no what i ment by it. .. hes talking about turning it all the way down. .. but its up to him i would change arrows thats just me... i target shoot at 70 and drop it to 65-68 come hunting... sounds good yes i thnk so -anthony .: lay the smack down :. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Re: arrow problem Yeah, I agree I'd sell the arrows he's got to someone on here, and buy new ones too. He should be pulling whatever he can and is comfortable with to get the maximum performance he can from his bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Re: arrow problem well i would be pretty comfortable at 60 since i shoot a release off a loop. and right now im somewhere between 60 and 65. im not sure exactly because the guy at the pro-shop turned it down a little while sighting it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Re: arrow problem If you are really comfortable with what you are shooting now, but feel maybe you could pull a couple more pounds comfortably (and I mean comfortably), then I would go to your Archery Shop and find out exactly what you are pulling now, and maybe move it up a few lbs if need be in the future. The important thing now is that you're not underspined for your present set-up, and, that you're all practiced up and ready to go come hunting season, without any last minute changes. So, if you can't afford heavier spined arrows now, then just make sure the bow is at 60lbs and avoid shooting those first arrows you had, that are only rated to 40lbs max. 60lbs, sharp braodheads, a well tuned bow, and a well practiced shooter will kill deer just as good and just as quick as 70lbs. Eventually though, (if not now), you will want to get as much out of your bow, performance-wise, as you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Re: arrow problem man i still cant believe that those cx100's are that underspined the guy at the pro shop included 6 carbons with the package i bought and the ones he gave me are the most expensive that they had. i dont know why he would not just give me the right arrows. it would have been cheaper on him anyways. and ive been shooting them for a while and havent had any problems with them. exept that a couple shot through the target and hit a tree and broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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