traprdave Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think the guy has a clue!! http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html#comment- 60822454 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Wow. That's interesting. If I'm not mistaken wasn't the term " assault rifle " given to war rifles by Hitler? If you're comfortable using a term created by Hitler then by all means. I bought myself an AR-15 last year. I love the gun. There are many restrictions on hunting with it. I cannot have more than 6 rounds in the gun while hunting ( a five round mag and one in the chamber ). Mr. Zumbo is clearly misinformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I think his choice of words are in bad taste but, I understand his point. Although not everybody can afford a nice Browning, Tikka, or whatever their prefence, IMO, he's saying please use a rifle meant for hunting, instead of something that may appear to some as an assult rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Have any of you ever talked to Mr. Zumbo? I have and I think he is right on as far as using these so-called "assualt weapons" for hunting! They are not accurate at all and have less energy than a 30-30. That is the 7.62X39! Jim Zumbo is probably one of the best elk hunters there is! I also agree with him about "elk" farms. They should be outlawed and Idaho is working on that in the congress right now! I hope they shut them down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwa Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I don't agree with Jim Zumbo. Every hunter has the right to use what rifle he/she wishes to use with in the law. I use AR-15's coyote hunting, why shouldn't I be able to use one. [ QUOTE ] I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not a terrorist, just because I own one and use it for hunting. It's a semi-auto rifle just like several other rifles used for hunting like the Remington 7400 semi-auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I tend to agree with his line of thinking. I would hate to see a day where the modern-day AR's outsell the SR's. Maybe I'm old fashioned too, but I understand completely where he is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobblegobblebang Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! He needs to learn how to talk about this so that the libs do not use it against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Zumbo is an idiot with a brown ring around his neck. He has spent too much time elk hunting in high altitude and killed too many brain cells from lack of oxygen. The AR is just another style of rifle. His bolt gun is just like the preferred sniper rifle of today's military. When I head out in search of coyotes, I take my AR15. I will put it against any factory bolt gun and most custom bolt guns for accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] Have any of you ever talked to Mr. Zumbo? I have and I think he is right on as far as using these so-called "assualt weapons" for hunting! They are not accurate at all and have less energy than a 30-30. That is the 7.62X39! Jim Zumbo is probably one of the best elk hunters there is! I also agree with him about "elk" farms. They should be outlawed and Idaho is working on that in the congress right now! I hope they shut them down! [/ QUOTE ] You might want to do some research before making an assumption about the accuracy of "assault weapons". I can assure you that there are several AR's out there by various companies that will outshoot most production hunting rifles, and several are chambered for .308 which is plenty of gun for anything in North America. And more deer fall victim each year to the so called under powered 30-30 than any other cartridge. I like Mr. Zumbo , but disagree with his statement. I personally do not own a so called "assault rifle" , however, if some one want's to own or hunt with one then that is their 2nd amendment right. I fully disagree with folks that just want to go out and throw as much lead in the air as possible in hopes of hitting the animal, but just because some folks choose a tactical semi auto does not mean they intend to empty a mag on everything they see. I have seen several folks that hunt with semi auto hunting rifles and shoot at running animals until their empty. IMO that is no different than someone doing it with a " assault weapon" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest psefirestormlite Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I call him the looong ranger b/c everything he shoots at is about a mile away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsman2230 Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! There is absolutely no difference between a .223 bolt action and an AR-15 other than the speed in which the gun can be fired. The .223 doesnt do anymore damage out of the AR than it would out of the bolt rifle. And some people may not like them because they look like a military weapon. Well you can make any gun look like a military weapon if you wanted to but that dosent change the ballistics of the round. I personally wouldnt use them to hunt anythine but varmints but thats my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyote Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! To all you that think Zumbo is right.........read on http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/i_was_wrong_big.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I appreciate that Mr. Zumbo made that apology. There are a couple of idiots who replied to his apology and should be ashamed to consider themselves outdoorsmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Well, I still tend to agree with his line of thinking about the way assault rifles vs regular sporting rifles are viewed by the general public these days. You can't take that truth away from his comments. I just hope no-one decides to hunt groundhogs with grenade launchers Some people sure are treating him badly over this. He never once said that he thought hunter's were terrorists, in any way shape or form. Some of those people need to get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Wow!! This thing got thrown so far out of context. The man made a simple statement on how the "public" see's an AR and now people are boycotting everyone that he is sponsored though. I'll tell you what, with the situation we are in now, with the war and all. If I saw a couple people walking through the woods with AR's, It'd have me thinkin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2hunt Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Sure does seem since the whole Jimmy Houston thing that people are all ready to run anyone out of the hunting industry for something they say or do. While I've never been a big fan of Houston, I do respect Zumbo. He made an idiotic statement, no doubt about it but he was man enough to own up to it. Sure wish people would react that fast when the anti's and politicians try to take away our rights through legislature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] Sure wish people would react that fast when the anti's and politicians try to take away our rights through legislature. [/ QUOTE ]Amen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I know I'd like to see everyone that active against the real enemy of anti's. That man has done more to inspire hundred's of thousand's if not millions of hunters and sportsmen and women the world over and this is how he's treated. Lot's of stone throwers yet I bet not one of them has ever written to a congressman to tell their view of how citizens in their home state feel about guns, hunting and fishing. Of course it's only right for them to do that since online they can be anonymous and faceless and cowards. Yet you know exactly who he is and how he feels about things. I don't care if he is doing the CYA as some put it. He's still a brother in the things we care about and a very avid spokesman for all of us. Nice to know he's such a traitor by helping so many and inspiring millions. They need to get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! i've known jim as a friend for over 30 years. we even spent a week fishing together in alaska in 1990. he's the real thing, folks. but, i don't think most people got his real message. it's all about image, and the media. the media is trying to assimilate hunters with hi-tech military weapons and killing, not hunting. jims statement was wrong,(imho) out of line, and i accept his apology. hunters with any legal weapon, need to be accepted by all hunters. i see no difference here than with the crossbow debate. let each hunter use the legal weapon of his choice and not be chastised by the "holier than thou" hunter crowd. we have anti's out there who can, and do, chastise. and, don't think the anti's aren't watching now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! there is already an appology but at what expense .... http://www.outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/ Here is a link to Remingtons sight ... read the upper right corner by the green explanation point http://www.remington.com/ Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Foot in mouth disease..... I think his original comments were misplaced and ignorant of something he didn't undertstand and I think his apology was heartfelt. He isn't a traitor nor is he an anti.... Like someone else said, too bad that we don't turn on the politicians who raise our taxes, pass resolutions that embolden our enemies to wait us out in Iraq, and take away our gun rights. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeck Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! This is way to crazy, what happened to freedom of speech. He stated that his opinion was his alone. We really need to forgive someone that spoke out of turn, not hang them. I wonder what would happen if everyone of us was put under the micro scope. I will be far more upset with Remington if they end they're relationship with mister Zumbo than if they forgive and forget. Come on Remington, Get off the politcal band wagon. If everyone got fired for saying something stupid, we'd all be in the cheese line. JMO, if we are still alowed to state our opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harryjoe Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] I don't think the guy has a clue!! http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html#comment- 60822454 [/ QUOTE ] To put this guy into a group of anti's blows me away. Just because someone has a dif. opinion then you does not make them a anti. I would not use a bb gun to hunt deer. Does that make me an anti? This guy has been great for our sport. I do not agree with him but I respect his opinion. I don't have respect for people who throw the "anti card" at anyone who does not see things there way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] I had no clue. [/ QUOTE ] While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I have to disagree with Mr. Zumbo. Think when he said this, he pretty well summed up what I think about what he says here. Can see a place for AR's in hunting especially for coyotes, and would not consider them to be an inaccurate rifle by any means. This type of mentality is not good for gunowners. Killed my first deer with an SKS(7.62X39) at about 45 yards or so with open sights, had three rounds in the gun, but it only took one, and that deer fell dead after three short steps. Making assumptions that everyone who uses these types of guns uses the "spray and pray" method is pretty naive, and well to be quite honest a somewhat ignorant notion. While it is quite obvious Mr Zumbo is not an anti, I have to conclude that his comments in my opinion are somewhat ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyote Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! If "personalty" would call a black person the "N" word in an article or on TV or radio...............that's free speech!!! But I will guarentee there will be reprecutions. Sponsers would drop him/her in a NY minute!!! Him/her would be called a "racist" (which is the same as an anti) So why can't you throw in the "anti card" in Zumbo's case? He really feels this way or he wouldn't have written it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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