buckee Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] Zumbo brought up the mention of banning firearms as they were deemed in his opinion to be not necessary [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, but again I disagree. Jim poorly articulated his thoughts, that maybe certain firearms should be banned from hunting, not from ownership, target purposes, or defending the State as quoted in the Second Amendment.. He never called hunter's, gun-owners or target shooters terrorists either. He poorly articulated how the non-hunting public views these types of firearms. I believe his apology, when he said he was tired when he wrong that entry in his Blog, because for a writer, he sure blew it as far as articulating his thoughts. Zumbo is not the enemy. Anyway, I've given my opinion in this thread a few times, so I'm done with this now too. The damage has been done, and I believe sportsman did it this time, not Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! But Steve, he said they had no use and that they were weapons for terrorists. I mean really, this argument is pretty petty really. Still cannot believe he thinks that AR's are not suitable for varmint hunting, when guys use these weapons in match competitions at distances that most deer hunters with a bolt gun would never dream of shooting. Plain and simple ignorance on his part. I am just a lowly moron, and even I can see a place for AR's in varmint hunting. Surely someone in his position claiming to not have a clue as he put it should be a little more aware of this type of thing before inserting his foot in his mouth. At the very least, he could have done a little research prior to making his comments being that he is/was viewed as a spokesman for promoting the hunting and shooting sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! ANYONE WHO GIVES FUEL TO SARAH BRADY has BETRAYED the 2nd amendmant and American shooters and gun owners in America everywhere. Intentional or not. They are using one of our own against us, that cannot be tolerated. Gun rights in this country are under attack constantly and the LAST thing we need is one of our own saying there is NO place for semi automatic military STYLED weapons. Cosmetics we are talking here. There is a place for EVERY type of firearm in the hunting community. I know a trapper who uses a small ( anti's would call it a saturday night special) Beretta .22 to take care of business at the trap. Now that gun has a 2" bbl. not much accuracy huh?Is there any use for it in the sporting world? Of course there is...I just explained it. No one is taking away the accomplishments of Mr Zumbo. He made a VERY BIG mistake( we all make them, but not at his level and cost) and the Gun owners of America spoke. Let that be an example for others in the publics eye, the outdoor world and shooting sports of this great country. I'm sorry Zumbos taking the hit, he is a good hunter but his words did him in...not mine. Even if I forgive him...it does no good. The damage is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! This is copied from Uncle Ted's forum. I guess Nuge allowed Zumbo to make a post on his forum. Take if for what it's worth--the guy has practically lost everything he's dedicated his life to. [ QUOTE ] The last few days have been an educational experience, to say the least. My ill-conceived inflammatory blog, as all of you now know, set off a firestorm that, I’m told, has never before been equaled. I’m not proud of that. Let me say this at the outset. My words here are from the heart, and all mine. No one can censor me, and I answer to no one but myself. And I have no one to blame but myself. Outdoor Life, a magazine that I worked for full-time as Hunting Editor for almost 30 years, fired me yesterday. My TV show was cancelled yesterday. Many of my sponsors have issued statements on their website to sever all relationships. This may cause many of you to do backflips and dance in the streets, but, of course, I’m not laughing, nor am I looking for sympathy. I don’t want a pity party. They say hindsight is golden. Looking back, I can’t believe I said the words “ban” and “terrorist” in the context that I did. I don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I can explain this as sheer ignorance and an irresponsible use of words. What I’ve learned over the last few days has enlightened and amazed me. As a guy who hunts 200 days a year, does seminars on hunting, wrote for six hunting magazines, had a hunting TV show, and wrote 20 books on hunting, how could I have been so ignorant and out of touch with reality in the world of hunting and shooting? But I was. I really can’t explain it, maybe because I just summarily dismissed the firearms in question in my mind when I saw them in magazines and catalogs. I saw one “black” firearm in a hunting camp in all my 50 years of hunting, and I shot one last year off a boat when fishing in Alaska. To tell the truth, it was fun and I enjoyed it immensely, but I never considered one for use in hunting. I have to tell you that I have had a revelation. I’m learning that many of my pals own AR-15’s and similar firearms and indeed use them for hunting. I was totally unaware that they were being used for legitimate hunting purposes. That is the absolute truth. My biggest regret is not the financial impact of all this. I’m almost 67 and retirement is an option. The dreadful impact here is that I inadvertently struck a spear into the hearts of the people I love most…America’s gun owners. And, even though this huge cadre of dedicated people have succeeded in stripping me of my career, I hold no grudges. I will continue to stand as firm on pro hunting as I’ve ever done. But what’s different now is that I’ll do all I can to educate others who are, or were, as ignorant as I was about “black” rifles and the controversy that surrounds them. My promise to you is that I’ll learn all I can about these firearms, and by the time this week is out, I’ll order one. The NUGE has invited me to hunt with him using AR-15’s, and I’m eager to go, and learn. I’ll do all I can to spread the word. I understand that many of you will not accept this apology, believing that the damage has been done and there’s no way to repair it. You have that right. But let me say this. I mentioned this above, and I’ll repeat it. I’m willing to seize this opportunity to educate hunters and shooters who shared my ignorance. If you’re willing to allow me to do that, we can indeed, in my mind, form a stronger bond within our ranks. Maybe in a roundabout way we can bring something good out of this. Jim Zumbo [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Kind of after the fact, but nice to see that he has given this apology. Unfortunately the damage has been done with the anti's and it is doubtful that they would take the time to look at this apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogwild63 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] The damage has been done, and I believe sportsman did it this time, not Jim. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry buckee, I cannot agree with that at all. I am still hopeful that much good will come of this but that sentiment I cannot agree with. He is not the only professional person that has lost everything through a mistake and he will not be the last. It's kind of like when a politician says something degrading toward the NRA, I think, "hey, he just insulted me". His apology can be accepted and I do accept it, but I cannot accept blame for his mistake. That is what you and Othmar are proposing is that WE take the blame for his mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] That is what you and Othmar are proposing is that WE take the blame for his mistake. [/ QUOTE ] No, with all due respect Ken, that's not true. He did make the mistake of writing in his Blog, about a touchy subject, when he was tired, and obviously didn't articulate his thoughts very well for a writer. He's guilty of that, But as readers of that Blog, I pretty easy to see where so many took his words and twisted them, and then went on a rampage and a mission to ruin the man, in a few short hours. It wasn't Jim's words alone that got him dropped from every sponsor he had and even drew the attention of the Brady bunch. These Sponsors dropped him, like a red-hot potato because of the uproar "WE" made, to protect their assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogwild63 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I understand where you are coming from Buckee, but I do not think discussing this on this bb got him dropped like a hot potato. Apparently, ALL of his sponsors felt like their assests needed protecting. I do not know how many on this bb contacted his sponsors, but I surely did not. Do you think that the majority of the people that responded were on a mission to ruin the man? What percentage of the responders were out to get him? What percentage of the responders just wanted to express their being offended and wanted some action? He expressed an opinion that insulted a growing portion of their customers, then he used the "T" word (HUGE!) and the uproar is not justified? I am really having a hard time for being chastized for expressing my opinion that a professional writer should have been fired for putting the companies in a compromising position. He is not a bad man as you say. Would I have lunch with him? YOU BET! But I will not minimize what he did, nor do I think I magnified it either by discussing it on this bb. He said in his apology he did not want pity! If he does what he says he will do in his apology, I think good things will come of this. If he is as good as you say he is, then adversity should not bring him down completely. Call me an optimist, but I think he will rebound from this and his career will just change direction slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] pretty easy to see where so many took his words and twisted them, [/ QUOTE ] And you think the other side will not do this? [ QUOTE ] and then went on a rampage and a mission to ruin the man, in a few short hours. [/ QUOTE ] And the same will happen to anyone else of that caliber that makes the same stupid error. Hunting and shooting celebs should take heed of what happened. We will not tolerate this from inside. Even if M.W. did it the result would be similar. [/ QUOTE ]It wasn't Jim's words alone that got him dropped from every sponsor he had and even drew the attention of the Brady bunch. These Sponsors dropped him, like a red-hot potato because of the uproar "WE" made, to protect their assets. [/ QUOTE ] Correct. We (Americans) has the assault gun ban and it sucked. Now that its gone, we don't want it back. Hopefully, this is a view of things to come when attempts are made in the future to ban guns. It's bad enough when outside forces are chipping away at us, we will not tolerate someone from the inside helping them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] It's bad enough when outside forces are chipping away at us, we will not tolerate someone from the inside helping them. [/ QUOTE ] Amen. Jim admitted his remarks were careless and ignorant. Think that was the bottom line that caused him to lose his sponsors. It was his own doing, even he is accepting that Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob LeBlanc Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Well folks, I know that I said earlier that I had made my last post on the topic…my apologies, I didn’t mean to lie. I need to make a couple of things perfectly clear: I am NOT anti-gun I am NOT anti-American I am NOT anti-hunting I AM one of the best friends you could ever have. In these forums, you have people like Steve (buckee) and me, who, even though we are Canadian, have relevant inputs on items that you may view to be solely American. We do not post to cause argument, or disdain…We post to provide what we believe to be insightful/ helpful information based on our experiences, and to encourage discussion. That is what these forums are all about…hunters helping hunters. One person has decided to belittle and degrade me because I am Canadian…that’s fine. My shoulders are 21” across, 18” biceps (I’m 5’ 6”), knockout power in both hands(hockey)…and a ‘near genius’ IQ…I think I can handle it. I have been told that I think on a different level than most, and that lends itself to misunderstanding…I have to accept that...as do you! So, to the point at hand: Without question, Zumbo, for a brief moment in time, was best named ‘Dumbo’. He should NEVER have ‘blogged’ his thoughts…but he did. All you need do, is an Internet search on ‘Jim Zumbo’, and read what you find…and what you will find is hunters, and target shooters, and recreational shooters ripping him, and EACH OTHER, apart…that’s BAD news!! Right now, the ‘Anti’s’ are standing back, with a big, evil grin on their faces, saying “ Hey…We don’t have to do anything…They’re gonna shoot each other!!” Paraphrasing what I have read here, “ Yeah…We’re gonna show them!…We’re gonna prove that if anybody, even one of our own, dares question or contravene our Second Amendment rights, we’re gonna hang him (or her…gotta be politically correct)...Solidarity!!! …And the Anti’s are standing back saying…” They’re gonna shoot each other…!!” “Divide and conguer”…the oldest battle strategy ever implemented. “Divide and conguer”. An interesting observation…If you will note, my earlier posts are based on the AK-47…all the” defense” posts are based on the AR-15. The AK-47 is an ‘evil’ weapon…Ever seen a picture of Bin Laden without one? Where-as the AR is an American gun..and the one that is defended…even in this thread. I wonder where Zumbo’s mind was when he penned his diatribe??? AK or AR (…and I don’t mean Arkansas or Arizona!!!) Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] The AK-47 is an ‘evil’ weapon…Ever seen a picture of Bin Laden without one? Where-as the AR is an American gun..and the one that is defended…even in this thread. I wonder where Zumbo’s mind was when he penned his diatribe??? AK or AR (…and I don’t mean Arkansas or Arizona!!!) [/ QUOTE ] Bob, I personally honestly don't think it matters whether he meant to say an AR or an AK. He said what he said and suggested banning and terrorists. That would seem to me to be a big no no's for anyone who is viewed as an ambassador of the sport of hunting. I consider Steve(buckee) a friend and I have nothing against you guys in Canada in this discussion and really can see your point in the separation, but at the same time just don't think it is wise to say ok, Mr Zumbo stuck his foot in his mouth, lets support him in that view even though we do not agree just so we do not appear to the antis to be showing separation of sorts, which seems to be what you are suggesting here. Like I said before, I still respect Mr Zumbo as a hunter for his accomplishments, but cannot appreciate how he let us all down with what in his own words he referred to as careless and ignorant comments. He did it to himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertip_co Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! This sorta reminds me of the big US Outfitters stink of a few years ago. Realtree Corp remembers that I am sure. The whole thing is sad form the standpoint that like JimZum or not a few words made all the diff in his life. Maybe the Tedster can resurrect him and show Zummy how to go FULL AUTO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! For all of the bashing that Uncle Ted takes here and elsewhere, I'm glad to see him take in Jim Zumbo. He is doing what all sportmen should do, educating the ignorant so that they may see the light. Jim Zumbo can overcome this and be a great crusader for the 2nd ammendment with a little education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogwild63 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] For all of the bashing that Uncle Ted takes here and elsewhere, I'm glad to see him take in Jim Zumbo. He is doing what all sportmen should do, educating the ignorant so that they may see the light. Jim Zumbo can overcome this and be a great crusader for the 2nd ammendment with a little education. [/ QUOTE ] That's more like it! Like I said, I'm the optimist. I don't think Zumbo got where he was by being a wuss when faced with adversity! I welcome him in his new adventure in the education of his "non-traditional" hunting experience. I can't wait to see the video of him hunting with Uncle Ted with AR's. I'm beginning to think Jim is handling this better than most in the hunting community! He is taking his consequences like a man and doing something about it. Kudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] For all of the bashing that Uncle Ted takes here and elsewhere, I'm glad to see him take in Jim Zumbo. He is doing what all sportmen should do, educating the ignorant so that they may see the light. Jim Zumbo can overcome this and be a great crusader for the 2nd ammendment with a little education. [/ QUOTE ] Joe I agree...Uncle Ted should set him straight. But it would be some makeover for a 67 year old man to go from the conservative "grand dad type hunter" to playing "Wango Tango" with the Nuge. I really do hope good things come out of this and OUR liberties are NOT further chipped away beacuse of a thoughtless comment. I'll bet ya that MANY others in the outdoors have chosen to educate themselves on this issue and the feeling of shooters and Americans everywhere. Crap is everywhere...make sure you don't step in it. Its very easy. I hope Zumbo makes a rebound...for his sake and ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob LeBlanc Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] I'll bet ya that MANY others in the outdoors have chosen to educate themselves on this issue and the feeling of shooters and Americans everywhere. Crap is everywhere...make sure you don't step in it. Its very easy. I hope Zumbo makes a rebound...for his sake and ours. /quote] Amen to that, Brother!!! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertip_co Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Gee Zumbo this thing went to page TWO already. Y'all must be watching NASCAR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowana Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I hope this is a lesson that evyone has learned. Zumbo's comment is already on the front page of every newspaper and website for the anti's to use against us. Bow hunters have to quit bashing gun hunters. Traditional hunters have to quit bashing Crossbow hunters. When you do this in an open forum (I'm not talking about silly stuff like SCOPE vs OTPG) you are doing nothing but hurting yourself. The Anti Hunting and Anti Gun movement is REAL, and its not going away soon. These ignorant comments I see sicken me. [ QUOTE ] I have and I think he is right on as far as using these so-called "assualt weapons" for hunting! They are not accurate at all and have less energy than a 30-30. That is the 7.62X39! [/ QUOTE ] STUPID! I know many people who use bolt action 7.62x39's. Also the AR-15 platform is capable of minute of angle accuracy. Jim Zumbo deserves exaxtly what he gets. This comment could set the NRA back a few years in its next battle. I own several AR-15's and his comment about a "terrorist" rifle sets my blood boiling!!!! I served my country proudly for 7 years as a Military Police Investigator and served in Central America, Mexico and West Germany. I have a right to exercise ownership to the fullest when it comes to the second amendment. I use to think that Ted Nugent was a little over the edge. Not anymore....we are going to need more like him. Think before you talk people!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] This is copied from Uncle Ted's forum. I guess Nuge allowed Zumbo to make a post on his forum. Take if for what it's worth--the guy has practically lost everything he's dedicated his life to. [ QUOTE ] The last few days have been an educational experience, to say the least. My ill-conceived inflammatory blog, as all of you now know, set off a firestorm that, I’m told, has never before been equaled. I’m not proud of that. Let me say this at the outset. My words here are from the heart, and all mine. No one can censor me, and I answer to no one but myself. And I have no one to blame but myself. Outdoor Life, a magazine that I worked for full-time as Hunting Editor for almost 30 years, fired me yesterday. My TV show was cancelled yesterday. Many of my sponsors have issued statements on their website to sever all relationships. This may cause many of you to do backflips and dance in the streets, but, of course, I’m not laughing, nor am I looking for sympathy. I don’t want a pity party. They say hindsight is golden. Looking back, I can’t believe I said the words “ban” and “terrorist” in the context that I did. I don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I can explain this as sheer ignorance and an irresponsible use of words. What I’ve learned over the last few days has enlightened and amazed me. As a guy who hunts 200 days a year, does seminars on hunting, wrote for six hunting magazines, had a hunting TV show, and wrote 20 books on hunting, how could I have been so ignorant and out of touch with reality in the world of hunting and shooting? But I was. I really can’t explain it, maybe because I just summarily dismissed the firearms in question in my mind when I saw them in magazines and catalogs. I saw one “black” firearm in a hunting camp in all my 50 years of hunting, and I shot one last year off a boat when fishing in Alaska. To tell the truth, it was fun and I enjoyed it immensely, but I never considered one for use in hunting. I have to tell you that I have had a revelation. I’m learning that many of my pals own AR-15’s and similar firearms and indeed use them for hunting. I was totally unaware that they were being used for legitimate hunting purposes. That is the absolute truth. My biggest regret is not the financial impact of all this. I’m almost 67 and retirement is an option. The dreadful impact here is that I inadvertently struck a spear into the hearts of the people I love most…America’s gun owners. And, even though this huge cadre of dedicated people have succeeded in stripping me of my career, I hold no grudges. I will continue to stand as firm on pro hunting as I’ve ever done. But what’s different now is that I’ll do all I can to educate others who are, or were, as ignorant as I was about “black” rifles and the controversy that surrounds them. My promise to you is that I’ll learn all I can about these firearms, and by the time this week is out, I’ll order one. The NUGE has invited me to hunt with him using AR-15’s, and I’m eager to go, and learn. I’ll do all I can to spread the word. I understand that many of you will not accept this apology, believing that the damage has been done and there’s no way to repair it. You have that right. But let me say this. I mentioned this above, and I’ll repeat it. I’m willing to seize this opportunity to educate hunters and shooters who shared my ignorance. If you’re willing to allow me to do that, we can indeed, in my mind, form a stronger bond within our ranks. Maybe in a roundabout way we can bring something good out of this. Jim Zumbo [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ]wow. thats pretty sad. i really feel for the guy. but what he said was ignorant and wrong. im glad that he is using this to educate him self and seeing things in a positive light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowana Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Bucky you can try to convince us all you want that he made a simple error. We are not biting! Some of these Celebs get big heads and egos. Then they think because they are on top the totem pole that thier perspective philosophy should be the golden rule (anyone remember Tom Cruize and his comment about Brooke Shields?) Nope Bucky, this is America. United we stand and divided we fall. Jim has played a dangerous Ego game and it cost him. We fought hard to repeal tha Assault weapons ban, and Jim just put a huge hole in our defenses. THIS IS ABOUT THE 2ND AMEND TO THE CONSTITUTION! It is all over the news already. Thier are no reprisals for those that cross the line and put our heritage in jepordy. Nope....no mercy for those that use thier celeb status to push thier narrow minded view points. This is an outrage! I wonder how many more gun writers are....on the other side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Heck... I'm just curious if anyone here thinks that there's going to be a winner out of this whole mess... I for one think that this is a very sad situation all the way around.. JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! Most everyone has expressed some sort of displeasure with Zumbo. There are 2 ways to go with this. He can either be ostacized form the hunting/shooting world, or he can re invent himself as Zumbo 2.0 and lead the charge up the capital to beat back HR1022. It would be nice if he started doing print ads, commecials and speaking engagements in support of the 2nd amendmant. Working the NRA-ILA to further our cause. Zumbo needs to make the anti's blood curdle the way OURS did when we heard his ignorant comments by his reversal and re education. I am very bothered by what Zumbo did, but we have to move forward and start doing damage control. As some have said before...I will say it again. If ANYONE had time to post on Zumbo, you BETTER have had time to contact your legislators to oppose HR1022. If we all came out of the woodwork the way we did about Zumbo 's comments...then beating back HR1022 should be a piece of cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! [ QUOTE ] or he can re invent himself as Zumbo 2.0 and lead the charge up the capital to beat back HR1022. It would be nice if he started doing print ads, commecials and speaking engagements in support of the 2nd amendmant. Working the NRA-ILA to further our cause. [/ QUOTE ] Yep, the ball is in his court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertip_co Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Re: Jim Zumbo\'s anti comments!! I am happy to report that Ted Nugent is supervising Jim Zumbo's successful re-education and that Zumbo may appear with the Tedster onstage at the NRA convention in April. The best teacher teaching the best writer. What a combo. Perhaps Zummy will be resurrected after all. My prayers go out to both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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