Texan_Til_I_Die Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 David Geffen, Hollywod mogul and big money contibutor to liberal/Democratic causes, had this to say about Hillary and Bill Clinton: [ QUOTE ] “Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it’s troubling.” [/ QUOTE ] As soon as Geffen's statement became public, the HRC war room and damage control central went into action. Howard Wolfson, Hillary's spokeman, called on Barack Obama to apologize, saying that David Geffen was Obama's "campaign finance chair." There's just one small problem with that. Geffen has no formal role with the Obama campaign! And everyone in the Clinton camp knows it. But it was a convenient lie that would benefit Clinton so they used it without thinking twice. And it appears to be working, since Obama's campaign has now been linked, however unfairly, with Geffen's statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Re: Proving a point about Hillary I was doing some searching around for what exactly was said and I couldn't find the full article, only snippets of what was said by Geffen against the Clintons. That statement that is quoted above is not ambiguous towards the Clintons, but there were personal statements made by Geffen against Bill Clinton. Because I am rushed I don't have time to cut and paste them. While Geffen does not have a "formal" role in the Obama campaign, he is, at this juncture, Obama's largest fundraiser and donater. Whether that translates into a formal campaign role, well, I guess it's all in how you perceive it. The fact of the matter is, is that Geffen has a close, personal role in the Obama campaign, whether he is paid or not, and he made personal attacks against Bill Clinton. Should Obama apologize, no, he didn't make the statements, but he should probably disavow the statements, but he won't do that, because 1) He probably agree's with him, and 2) He doesn't want to lose the millions coming in as a result of Geffens fundraising efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Re: Proving a point about Hillary Heard about this last week, and he is a contributor to Obama. Heard he only contributed like $2500 though, which would not seem to make him Obama's largest contributor, surely he has larger contributors to his campaign than that. As far as his efforts to help raise funds, had not heard that much about his part in that really. Apparently Hillary's people wanted Obama to apologize for Geffen's remarks. Obama has refused to do so as he made it clear that he feels he is not responsible for the remarks. I know some people think these two will run together on the same ticket, but I see this as just the beginning of what will turn out to be a pretty nasty campaign before it is all over with and just dont see the two running together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Re: Proving a point about Hillary Sluggo, you're missing the whole point of my post. Its not to debate how much money Geffen has given to whom, or what Obama's opinion of Clinton might be. The point is to illustrate the ease with which Hillary Rodam Clinton will resort to lying to gain some small political advantage over an opponent. I mean come on, someone says that both Clintons lie far too easily and the very first response about that from Clinton is ANOTHER BLATANT LIE! Geesh, gimme a break. That's like telling someone they use bad grammer and their response is "I ain't never used no bad grammer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Re: Proving a point about Hillary [ QUOTE ] I mean come on, someone says that both Clintons lie far too easily and the very first response about that from Clinton is ANOTHER BLATANT LIE! Geesh, gimme a break. [/ QUOTE ] Sad truth though is that some people do not think the Clintons have been diishonest or done anything wrong. Others who for whatever reason just dont care. Then too the mentality of some people out there back when Clinton was in office, from some people I worked with was pretty sad. I mean there were guys, married guys in their 20's, who thought Clinton was cool, because he cheated on his wife. I really find it sad that people think that way nowadays, but some really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Re: Proving a point about Hillary As I recall, and have heard of the incident, Geffen was a major Bill Clinton supporter during his campaigns. Why the change of heart? Maybe, he came to dislike the kind of persons the Clinton's are. Just conjecture on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Re: Proving a point about Hillary [ QUOTE ] As I recall, and have heard of the incident, Geffen was a major Bill Clinton supporter during his campaigns. Why the change of heart? Maybe, he came to dislike the kind of persons the Clinton's are. Just conjecture on my part. [/ QUOTE ] Or...maybe the Clintons didn't so something for him that he thought they should or said they would. Politicians lie, whether it's Bubba, W, or Ronnie Ray-Gun...do ya'll honestly believe Reagan had no knowledge of Iran-Contra?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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