snapper Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Well...I've decided its time to retire my 15 year old king quad and get something new! I've narrowed my search to these 3.... 1. Kawasaki Brute Force 750 2. Suzuki King Quad 700 3. Yamaha Grizzly 700 They all have things I like...trying to decide what "things" I need and things I don't need. 1st and formost....price! They are all about the same depending on which package. Which brings me to the next most important thing...looks...I really like the Brute Force NRA Outdoors package...but it comes with a higher price tag. As for shear power...the Brute Force also wins that! King quad and Grizzly have fuel injection...the Brute Force don't. The Grizzly has power stearing...the Brute Force and King quad don't. I prefer the rear braking system on the Brute force...the king quad has the same...the Grizzly don't. The Grizzly has about an 1 1/4" more ground clearance.... I don't know...what do I need and what don't I need? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Sounds like you kind of already know which one you want, looks like you want the Brute Force to me. The Kawasaki having more power without the fuel injection seems like two plusses to me. Fuel injection is nice, but seems like it could potentially be more to go wrong. Far as power steering, so long as the bikes have a 2wd/4wd selection, should make for easy turning while moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Yeah, they all have 2wd/4wd and differential lock...however, there is a big difference in the power steering on the Grizzly compared to other models. Do I "need" it? Naw...but it is a nice option. I am sorta leaning towards the Brute Force...but like I said, with the NRA package...its the most expensive. Without the NRA package...its still a little more and don't look as nice. I could get a camo Grizzly or King quad cheaper than a "standard" colored Brute Force. Guess thats why I was asking here...do I pay for looks and power...over other features? Or is looks and power the most important features...and let price fall where it may? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... I would say if power is what you want then go for the power. If you like the camo looks go for the cheapest camo bike. It sounds like we have opposite needs. If the price difference isn't that much, I would get the Brute Force sence it is obviously what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... When making big purchases like that, take the money out of the equation when determining which one you really want SO LONG AS YOU can afford what you want. After you figure out which one you want start looking for deals. Really when getting into bikes that size how much difference is there in spending a few more bucks to get what you want, rather than later wondering to yourself if you should not have gone ahead and spent the extra. The 450 honda is more than enough for what we use it for, and honestly I personally have no need for a bike that size with that kind of power, but if you have justification for it, hey more power to you. Thing is being that you are the one who has to live with your decision, you need to get what you really want, even if that means dropping a few more bucks for the one that you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehunter Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... The Grizzly is an incredible machine. Guy I go riding with has one, I have the Sportsman 700 and the Grizzly has better power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... I've got a 2006 King Quad 700, I love it. I'm a BIG guy and when I go out with my friends, I've got more power and speed. I also dragged my grandfathers moose out of the woods with it. I'm very happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... For power and sound, you can't beat the BF. I have not heard of a lot of issues with the power steering yet, but if you decide to go with the griz, you might want to wait for the 2008 models, so you aren't getting a first year production item. I know the BF had problems with tie rods but I believe that has been corrected. Can't really help you with the KQ. I sure you probably have, but just in case you haven't, you need to go and test drive all of them and see which one you like the best. I really don't think you will be dissapointed with any of them. Is polaris out of the question? I think the sportsman has the most comfortable ride of any 4 wheeler, but they are quite a bit heavier. But you aren't going to be lifting any of the other ones by yourself, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Thanks folks...yeah the Polaris, Artic Cat, Can Am, are all out. I'm thinking the King quad will be out as well...after comparing again...it has nothing to offer that the Griz or the BF doesn't! Shame, cause I really liked my old King quad...but nothing out there is made that way anymore. I rode my buddies Kaw. 650 this morning...only thing different on his bike than the new one is 100cc's and his doesn't have the rear independent suspension. I gotta say...I liked it. I'm hoping I get the chance to ride the Griz in a simular situation....can't get a good feel for a machine puting around a cement parking lot. I really don't have a NEED persay for a machine of this size...but I've always been the type to buy more than I need, just incase there is ever a need. I'd rather have "too much" and never use it rather than "not enough" when I do need it. Thanks again...any other input is welcomed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudd Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... I'd definately get the atv that you can handle the best for your experience level thats why for you I would recomend you purchasing a 1979 honda atc 70!!!! but I know thats just not you so just go buy the BF!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... i havent heard any thing on the suzuki. i heard the bruteforce it really hard to steer. in that sense the grizzly would be the best. i havent heard anything about the 2007 grizzlies with powersteering problems. but check out highlifter.com's forums. there is everything you need to know on there. from what i heard the v-twin sounds really good. but if i were you i would go with either the yamaha or bruteforce. again i havent heard anything about the suzuki but tons aobut the other 2. if you want any more info please pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWiggely Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... My buddy has the grizzly 700 that he bought last year. We have hauled logs out of the woods with that thing with no problem. The power stearing was nice but not anything we really needed. We did have some trouble getting around the woods with it because it was so big and tight turns were tough even with the power stearing. But we never got stuck or bottomed out. It rode very nice too. Wigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... I would get the Grizzly 700. I rode one and it is a very nice machine. Power steering is awsome, espicially in 4X4 with diff lock engaged. All atvs' should have it. I hope to have one within the next couple years...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Can't tell you what you need, but for me, I would opt for the Grizzly because I really like the fuel injection vs the carbs, and the higher ground clearance would seal the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoss Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Snap just wondering why you ruled the Polaris out ? Have had them all my life from 500 to the new 800 and have never found another make that out performed it. Best ground clearance, where the first with fuel injection the ride IMO is bar none the smoothest especially with 2 riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... [ QUOTE ] Snap just wondering why you ruled the Polaris out ? Have had them all my life from 500 to the new 800 and have never found another make that out performed it. Best ground clearance, where the first with fuel injection the ride IMO is bar none the smoothest especially with 2 riders. [/ QUOTE ] Mainly looks...but also had a few experiences with the belts slipping on a couple different machines. I know they are mostly all belt now...but once you get a bad taste for something...well, sorta stays with ya. Not knocking them or saying they are bad machines...just not something I'm willing to spend that kind of money on and not like it. I really don't see a need for power steering...IMO, it feels like it would "float" at higher speeds? As for fuel inj. vs. carbs? Don't have really an opinion other than if I were to travel out west with it alot...the fuel inj. would def. be an advatage. Ground clearance is a must...but so is power and looks...so far I'm leaning towards the Kaw. Brute force, but haven't ruled out the Grizzly just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... IMO if you are goin for looks go for the griz. the BF looks like a toy to me. but the fuel injection not only eliminates the task of messin with the jets if you come out west but the FI also aids greatly in torque. i asked a guy at the dealership the other day when i was gettin my 660 serviced and he said there isnt much of a difference in top speed between the 660 and 700 but the torque really sets them apart. another good thing is taht there is only a couple pounds differnce between the 660 and 700 but the price tag is quite a bit higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Maybe so on the comparison between the grizzes (is that a word), but neither one of them can touch the BF on power/torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... [ QUOTE ] Maybe so on the comparison between the grizzes (is that a word), but neither one of them can touch the BF on power/torque. [/ QUOTE ] Yep...the sales/mech. rep at our local Yamaha/Suzuki dealership even told me if I was looking for power and torque...the Kawasaki Brute Force 750 out does the Grizzly 700 and King quad 700. So, the only real advantage I see with the fuel injection is cold start ups...but I've done with out FI and used a choke for many years. I don't know...guess I really can't find anything the Grizzly has that I need that the BF doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carloracer1987 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... so why is arctic cat out of your choice ? because it costs more ? well i have a arctic cat and i can tell you i have more ground clearance than the kawisuki and the griz.The power steering on the griz is not for better turning it is so when you hit rocks or ruts it dosent try to rip the handle bar outta your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallone Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... My vote goes for the grizzly but like Cole said go to highlifter.com and you'll get all the info you need about any bike. It's not just the power steering but they changed a lot on the new griz with a lower gas tank higher air vents etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ultralite31 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... yamaha- belts slip when they get wet!! never had any dealings with kawasaki or suzuki but if u want dependability i would recommend a honda!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... Thanks guys...the Artic cat was ruled out because of the ride. Compared to the Brute Force...the AC was much stiffer and rougher ride. It was actually cheaper than the BF I looked at...so it wasn't the price that steered me away. I looked at alot of different bikes...yeah the Grizz is different, but the air vents still aren't as high as the BF's air vents. All bikes with belt drive can and will slip if they get wet...I really dislike that...but thats the way they are. Yeah Honda's have a different trans...but I don't like the looks of a Honda. I appreciate everyones advice...however, I picked the three I picked because I already ruled out certain bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... [ QUOTE ] yamaha- belts slip when they get wet!! [/ QUOTE ] Which manufacture's belt won't slip when it get's wet?????? OK Snapper, we need pics of that new BF Have you got it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Another ATV delima... now all you need is a HMF, 29.5outlaws, gorilla lift and many other mods to make it mud worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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