Gator Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Was reading a GT info book the other day, and it said that if you take their Expedition Shafts, cut them from the nock end, it will make them even straighter. Has anyone else heard of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? Sound hoakie to me. Straightness is a factor from end to end not just one end or the other. I would doubt you could achieve straighter arrows just by cutting the nock end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Hunt Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? I believe you have to cut both ends to achieve what you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? [ QUOTE ] I believe you have to cut both ends to achieve what you want to. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. Cut both ends. I've read and heard that, but I've never verified it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil hunter Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? I've also heard that they are the exact same arrows, coming from the exact same machine. The only difference is that the Hunters are the ones that are produced while the machine is still warming up. Does anyone know the truth behind this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I believe you have to cut both ends to achieve what you want to. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. Cut both ends. I've read and heard that, but I've never verified it. [/ QUOTE ] Yep, same here... May have to give it a try some time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? [ QUOTE ] I've also heard that they are the exact same arrows, coming from the exact same machine. The only difference is that the Hunters are the ones that are produced while the machine is still warming up. Does anyone know the truth behind this? [/ QUOTE ] Not sure 100% but from a manufacturing stand point. I would think a company would run a series of arrows off the same machinery and naturally have batches that have a mix of "straightness" and then have to inspect and classify them accordingly. I am sure while running a batch of shafts they will get anywhere from .001 to .007 and then just put the straighter shaft in one batch for be labeled "XTs" and the less straight as "Expeditions". That being if the same demensions for a shaft are the same. (Length, ID, and OD measurement.) As for cutting a shaft on each end... I seriosuly doubt that your going to make a .006 shaft into anything less then .005, if at all. Unless the defect is at one ond or the other and you get lucky. You can not look at a shaft as being bowed in a even arch for every shaft. It could be .002 for 80% and then curve at the end or whatever. JMO but an Expediton will be and Expediton no matter how you cut it. But to each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? I'll see if I can get my hands on the GT book I got this out of, and quote it for ya'll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? I do this on a regular basis for all of my GT shafts ever since a couple of years ago. I notice on a dozen shafts that I just fletched up that a few of them were hitting differently than the others. After some investigation I found there was a small raised area on the ends of each shaft, more on some than others, the others being the ones that weren't hitting correctly. So, to eliminate this problem I started cutting the nock end first and then the tip end. We all strive for consistancy in archery and it begins in the arrow as well as the bow. A poorly tuned arrow doesn't do you any good evenif your bow is in tune. Cutting both ends allows the nock and the insert to rest flush and square to the shaft, making for a great alignment from tip to end. Now as far as making the whole shaft straighter that isn't possible that is totally up to the manufacturer. We have control of the square factors not the straightness. I know I can't see .006 of straightness on a arrow spinner but I can see the wobble of a nock or insert that isn't seated correctly. Also, when putting new nocks into the shafts it will shave small pieces of plastic off and get in between the nock and shaft. I pull the nock back up slightly and clean that debris out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTbowman Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? Now I can definatley see that point. Cutting both ends will square them up and make for better nock and insert alignment. Making a shaft strtaighter by cutting it just seems like turning lead into gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? The straightness spec is based on a certain span length. I don't know what it is for GTs but on some other brands it is 29" Honestly, the straightness spec means very little without the gage span length. Anyway, shortening the arrows below that span length will in effect make them "straighter". Arrows with a longer gage span will benefit more from being cutdown than arrows with a short gage span. I agree with VT the arrows are simply sorted from the same production run. Same materials in those arrows you're just paying for sorting. But please keep in mind that also means the likelyhood that you will get a couple of really straight arrows in a batch of the lower grade ones is extremely low. The super straight ones have already been sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Re: Turning GT Hunters into XT\'s?? yep i was told the same thing by a big time Goldtip dealer. he said it might be possible to get a .005 arrow a little straighter if you cut 1 inch off the nock end first. but i cant really say it works unless you actually measure them. just buy pros series anyways, thats what i do. got to love them for tight tolerance on weight and straightness. Shoot Strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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