Newarcher Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Took my family up to Helen GA...a little Suiss remake town in the North Georgia mountains two weeks ago. My wife and daughter (4) stayed in the truck parked along side the road in a pullout area while myself and my son (8) went and threw some lines in the river. There were a couple of people 150-200 yards down the river from us (shielded by trees) but we were alone in the immediate area that was fairly secluded. The bank was flat next to the river where we were standing and then formed a shelf up to the roadbed level. So more or less when fishing, we had about a two foot rise right behind us on which I put my tackle box. Well, I was fishing with my son when a pebble rolled down by my foot and I knew I didn't cause it (I thought that maybe my wife had snuck up on me). I turned around and there was a man standing less than four inches from my face. He had a buddy with him that was a few feet away with his back to me looking the other way...in my mind seeming to act as a lookout. My wife saw them park in front of us (out of state tags), they sat in the car for a minute, got out and quickly walk directly to me, which is extremely odd. If they were interested in seeing if we caught anything or what equipment we were using, they could have done so from 20-50 feet away, no reason to walk up on us like that. Plus, protocol and common sense is that you make noise so people know you are coming. Well, anyway, I was startled to say the least and immediately concerned when I saw a knife clipped onto the closest one's pocket. I was unarmed so I wheeled around, put myself between the man and my son, and shoved my hand in the tacklebox. He seemed surprised by my reaction and said quickly "we're just walking around looking". I looked at the tacklebox and my hand and told him "well, you best keep right on walking and looking" and maintained eye contact with the closest one. They seemed to lose interest in walking and looking and immediately left without looking at anything else. They were there for probably less than two minutes including the walk over to me. It is clear to me that these fellahs were probably up to no good and I turned around one second too early. My wife said she was just about to honk the horn...gee thanks dear, love you too! "By the way dear, I just honked the horn to let you know you were just stabbed!" I typically carry my pistol with me when fishing but this was a "hey, that looks like a good stretch of water, let's try it out" thing. If I would have had that pistol with me, I would have pulled it without a second thought and been justified in doing so. I wouldn't have pointed it at them unless they ratcheted it up a notch but their actions were completely offensive in nature (at least could be interpreted as that way). Just goes to show you that you don't have to be in an alleyway in a major city at 3 am to encounter people who are up to no good. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeck Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Man is that something, thank god that things didn't go from bad to worse. Glad to hear that you and your son are OK. It' a shame you can't fish with you son without looking out for trouble. Stay safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Interesting story New. Good that pebble caught your attention. Really is sad, and you just cannot ever tell about people anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMAworks4me Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Now that is just a strange situation, glad that nothing happened to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son [ QUOTE ] If I would have had that pistol with me, I would have pulled it without a second thought and been justified in doing so. I wouldn't have pointed it at them unless they ratcheted it up a notch but their actions were completely offensive in nature (at least could be interpreted as that way). [/ QUOTE ] If ever confronted with this situation again and you do have you handgun, I would urge you to not only draw, but point and remove the safety (or **** the hammer). Some people can move incredibly fast or he could have a firearm concealed. Best to be fully prepared. Glad everyone's OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Exactly, you can't even fish any more without trouble. When you carry, you have an increased burden not to start fights, etc. You definitely don't want to ever have to pull it. In all the time I had my carry license not once have I had a reason to even think about it. Had I been carrying that day, I would have pulled it out without reservation. I'm kind of like a cop, the last thing I want to do is have to shoot someone. That's how serious this was in my mind. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son very very odd. Glad everyone is ok. Did ya guys catch any fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Stange story, I wonder what they were really up too. Just so you know, the average man can close a distance of 21 feet before you can draw and fire your weapon. It's too bad that at this day an age we have to worry about stupid little statistics like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If I would have had that pistol with me, I would have pulled it without a second thought and been justified in doing so. I wouldn't have pointed it at them unless they ratcheted it up a notch but their actions were completely offensive in nature (at least could be interpreted as that way). [/ QUOTE ] If ever confronted with this situation again and you do have you handgun, I would urge you to not only draw, but point and remove the safety (or **** the hammer). Some people can move incredibly fast or he could have a firearm concealed. Best to be fully prepared. Glad everyone's OK. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, good point. I could see both of their hands so my main concern was that knife which I was in arm's length of. I spun out of his arm's length when I pivoted in front of my son and had a backup plan to pick up my son and hit the river had he moved my way at all. I carry a Kimber Tactical Custom II 1911 model so my natural draw is to have my thumb on the safety. I can drop the safety and shoot before they could have drawn and shot. Which is why I like the 1911 system. It is just a shame. I didn't want to concern my son so after they left I just told him that they scared me and shouldn't have walked up on us like that. He figured it out and said "they were up to no good, weren't they?". I said I didn't know but even the instinct of an 8 year old knew. Won't happen again, now my wife understands why I grab my gun and take it with me whereever I go. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son [ QUOTE ] Stange story, I wonder what they were really up too. Just so you know, the average man can close a distance of 21 feet before you can draw and fire your weapon. It's too bad that at this day an age we have to worry about stupid little statistics like that. [/ QUOTE ] Sobering, eh? New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bruteshooter Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son VOTE YES for anyone suggesting a concealed carry law in any state!!! And this is from a retired cop. Armed...one and all. make things equal and give them something to think about before they do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Wow, that is crazy New! I'm glad you and your family were okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Sure glad that nothing happened to you and your family. Pretty odd indeed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Sounds like that could have been bad. You played that well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son I would have reacted the same way. You're lucky you turned around when you did., who knows what they were up to. There are too many random unprovoked acts of violence happening these days around the country. You have to be alert to that fact nowadays, at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldawg Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son I'm glad nothing bad happened there. I fish sometimes between 10p.m and 6 a.m on the river near us. I always pack a hunting knife with me. I have run into some real strange characters at that time of night, and never chance it. I do the same as you did. I lock the eye contact in, and basically put in a hard stare to let them know that any wrong moves will result in retaliation from me. Dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Glad to hear everything worked out New. I'am glad ya'll stayed safe. It is depressing to think how things are these days, and that it has become so common that your young son knew something was wrong. Back when I was his age, if something like that would have happened I would have been clueless. Getting to where you cant even relax in the good ol' outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Wow, sounds scary....glad you and the family were alright. I know I don't go anywhere in the woods, even at home without my knife, and if I got to state land I take the cellphone...you just don't know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartonman Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son I rather be judged by 12 (jury) than carried by six......keep the gun close at all times buddy...good reaction on the pebble....I have had run in's with ex cons I used to babysit in jail as an officer....they know my friendly time is non existant with my family near.....I have no problems with expressing myself in the right to protect my family till the last breath is taken...by them..............take care and be safe........al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Good to hear nothing went bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son wow. that story had me puckering you did the right thing, and got lucky too, i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drkillemquick Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Wow thats pretty scary! Glad nothing happened, and you'er right it is always best to play it safe at all times, there are alot of bad people out there anymore!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archerjg Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son Glad to hear that no one got hurt. It is sad that a person can not even go out fishing with their family. Archerjg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Re: What happened to me and my son [ QUOTE ] VOTE YES for anyone suggesting a concealed carry law in any state!!! And this is from a retired cop. Armed...one and all. make things equal and give them something to think about before they do anything. [/ QUOTE ] Amen to that! I don't leave home without it. Crazy story New. Glad everything turned out okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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