murphy617 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 anybody use bore butter on thier rifles/shotguns after you clean them??? i'v only heard of using it on ml'ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Re: bore butter? I do not or will not use that stuff in my guns, ML, shotgun, rifle, or handgun. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy617 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Re: bore butter? aj, just wondering, why not??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Re: bore butter? Why would you want a wax in your barrel? It does not "season" the steel. When the guns had barrels that were based from iron, that was a different story. Today, we have advanced from the stone age and use modern steel. Bore Butter would be a decent protector when the gun is stored, but it will not provide any benefit while shooting. When I shoot I want a good seal between the bore's lands and grooves and my bullet or sabot. That creates velocity and usually the best accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvDog Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Re: bore butter? [ QUOTE ] aj, just wondering, why not??? [/ QUOTE ] AJ convinced me while he helped me sight in my muzzleloader. I haven't touched the stuff since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Re: bore butter? When I bought my first TC, I used their #13 and bore butter because it was all natural, and I believed their yarn on seasoning the barrel. Well, haven't used it for a very long time, and AJ made the point why I don't !! too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy617 Posted April 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Re: bore butter? thanks for the info guys!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Re: bore butter? So the only time you use bore butter is when you store the rifle???? Thats the only time I run bore butter through my ML is after I clean it and then store it till next ML season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Re: bore butter? I use it on my patches when I shoot my sidelocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Re: bore butter? [ QUOTE ] So the only time you use bore butter is when you store the rifle???? [/ QUOTE ] I don't use it at all. Oil, Slip 2000, and the hundreds of other gun lubes work so well, I see no reason to use it. Perhaps if I shot patches and round balls I would use it as a patch lube, but I don't have any at my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Re: bore butter? [ QUOTE ] Why would you want a wax in your barrel? It does not "season" the steel. When the guns had barrels that were based from iron, that was a different story. Today, we have advanced from the stone age and use modern steel. Bore Butter would be a decent protector when the gun is stored, but it will not provide any benefit while shooting. When I shoot I want a good seal between the bore's lands and grooves and my bullet or sabot. That creates velocity and usually the best accuracy. [/ QUOTE ] AHHHAAAA! Thanks AJ! I too have always bought the whole natural thing when it came muzzleloaders, never thinking about modern steels and such. AJ, I use "Break Free CLP"(cleaner,lube,preservative) on my other fixed cartridge guns. Would it be OK also to use in the smokepoles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Re: bore butter? It will not hurt the steel, lets put it that way. The only thing I used is Rem Oil. In my Remington 700 ML I have used Slip 2000 and it did not hurt my accuracy but that is a coat the barrel then patch it out kind of stuff. I know it works very well in shotgun barrels. Just be sure to keep the bore dry and dry patch it before loading. Nothing like that first load not going off to make your range day more fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sabotmaker Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Why would you want a wax in your barrel? It does not "season" the steel. When the guns had barrels that were based from iron, that was a different story. Today, we have advanced from the stone age and use modern steel. Bore Butter would be a decent protector when the gun is stored, but it will not provide any benefit while shooting. When I shoot I want a good seal between the bore's lands and grooves and my bullet or sabot. That creates velocity and usually the best accuracy. [/ QUOTE ] AHHHAAAA! Thanks AJ! I too have always bought the whole natural thing when it came muzzleloaders, never thinking about modern steels and such. AJ, I use "Break Free CLP"(cleaner,lube,preservative) on my other fixed cartridge guns. Would it be OK also to use in the smokepoles? I use Break Free CLP in and on all my muzzleloaders. It works and no hassles. I once "seasoned" an old Hopkins & Allen side by side 16 gauge, damascus barrels with Woder Lube (same stuff as Bore butter). It is a shotshell gun, not a muzzleloader. I shoot blackpowder and pyrodex handloads in it as they are very low pressure and safe in the gun. As mentioned, I seasoned the gun inside and out, used a hand held hair dryer to warm the barrels and action and "work in" the Wnder Lube. Took it turkey hunting. It started to mist lightlty around 8:00 am. The gun showed oxidation (rust) by 11:00 am. My Great-Great Grandfather bought the gun new. I am the fifth generation to to have the pleasure of possessing the gun. It is is excellent shape, no one before me had apparrently allowed the gun to oxidize. I was sick and disgusted. I left the woods and immediately, "de-wonder lubed" the gun with varsol solvent and denatured alcohol. I went back to Break Free in the gun and will stick with it. I followed instructions on the Wonder Lube to the letter, maybe I screwed up. Don't know and don't care. I will not ever trust it to protect any metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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