6sixpoint_nobrows Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Alright i recently gained so new hunting property that nobody has hunted in ages. It belongs to a church and im good friends with the owners son..None of them hunt and havent allowed hunting mainly because nobody has known who owned it and nobody has ever asked them. Well we went out scouting a few weeks ago and we found two stands back there and a bunch of arrows. There has been no tresspassing signs all over the place and a fance around the whole property which is about 350 acres. So there is no mistake on where these people should be. They are deffinetly tresspassing. We took the stands down and bundled them up and set them next to the tree. Then we set up my trail cam (which has a lock on it ) about 10 feet away from the stands. Now to the question of character, if nobody ever comes for the stands, do we keep them.... and if they do and we get a picture of them where do we go from there? just wanting to see what everyone has to say. Keep in mind these are very nie stands and there is prolly 250 dollars sitting on there grounf between 2 rivers edge stands and 30 ft of cliimbing sticks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? If you get some pictures, have them prosecuted for trespassing. If the property is posted, they are in violation of the law. If nobody shows up, keep the stands! They were put there illegally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? I'd take the stands, remove your cameras, and pin a note to the trees that said "if you want your stands back, here's the address. You're tresspassing." A scumbag that will tresspass will surely take your trail cam too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] I'd take the stands, remove your cameras, and pin a note to the trees that said "if you want your stands back, here's the address. You're tresspassing." A scumbag that will tresspass will surely take your trail cam too. [/ QUOTE ] I'm with him...leaving those stands is inviting some other turd to steal them seeing the are not secured in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bruteshooter Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] I'd take the stands, remove your cameras, and pin a note to the trees that said "if you want your stands back, here's the address. You're tresspassing." BINGO and great idea. 100% agree A scumbag that will tresspass will surely take your trail cam too. [/ QUOTE ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? yup, I agree with Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? I'd def. get the stands AND your trail camera out of there! No lock in the world can protect your camera. I like the idea of leaving a note....see if they actually come forward to claim their stands. Personally, if I find a stand on my property...I consider it MY stand. The only character in question would be the ones who trespassed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IL_HuNtIn_KiD Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] Alright i recently gained so new hunting property that nobody has hunted in ages. It belongs to a church and im good friends with the owners son..None of them hunt and havent allowed hunting mainly because nobody has known who owned it and nobody has ever asked them. Well we went out scouting a few weeks ago and we found two stands back there and a bunch of arrows. There has been no tresspassing signs all over the place and a fance around the whole property which is about 350 acres. So there is no mistake on where these people should be. They are deffinetly tresspassing. We took the stands down and bundled them up and set them next to the tree. Then we set up my trail cam (which has a lock on it ) about 10 feet away from the stands. Now to the question of character, if nobody ever comes for the stands, do we keep them.... and if they do and we get a picture of them where do we go from there? just wanting to see what everyone has to say. Keep in mind these are very nie stands and there is prolly 250 dollars sitting on there grounf between 2 rivers edge stands and 30 ft of cliimbing sticks... [/ QUOTE ] See..ya put swapmy up there n a climbing stand...and when they show up let him demonstrate martial arts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? Chris has got a great idea. Get your camera out of there ASAP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoppeMan Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? Yeah, take the stands and leave an address for them. More than likely they wouldn't be bucky enough to come and get them and then you can keep them LOL And take the camera down, too, they'd probably steal it if they were to tresspass in the first place. Any pictures you get of them, turn them in. Signs or no signs, they're tresspassing. You don't have to have a sigh up to make it tresspassing. Take care, Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6sixpoint_nobrows Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? Welll sounds to me like i just gained 2 new stands and climbing sticks...i feel bad about taking them...but then i stop when i relize that it is private property and they are trespassing.. as for my Camera, Its locked up and we hide it pretty well with leaves and brush, it doesnt have a flash and its digital. I have a memory card so even if they tried breaking the camera i would still have the memory card, along with some pretty good pictures of there pretty faces busting my camera. And im almost positive they people that are back there are the neighbors to the property, today we also found 2 salt licks and a huge pile of corn in there back yard.. which also is illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoppeMan Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] as for my Camera, Its locked up and we hide it pretty well with leaves and brush, it doesnt have a flash and its digital. I have a memory card so even if they tried breaking the camera i would still have the memory card, along with some pretty good pictures of there pretty faces busting my camera. And im almost positive they people that are back there are the neighbors to the property, today we also found 2 salt licks and a huge pile of corn in there back yard.. which also is illegal [/ QUOTE ] ------ Bait....Better watch out for them. Take care, Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] as for my Camera, Its locked up and we hide it pretty well with leaves and brush, it doesnt have a flash and its digital. I have a memory card so even if they tried breaking the camera i would still have the memory card, [/ QUOTE ] How is it locked so good that someone can't steal it? Cables or padlocks are easily cut off with bolt cutters. Even if they can't get it off...not sure about your camera...but I don't think the plastic shell of my camera or the plastic memory card would hold up to a good bashing with a ball bat or tire iron. I wouldn't chance leaving my camera out there....think about it, they are going to be PO'd when they find their stands gone...IF they find your camera...they're going to take it out on it. Either stealing it...or destroying it....I'd go get it out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] as for my Camera, Its locked up and we hide it pretty well with leaves and brush, it doesnt have a flash and its digital. I have a memory card so even if they tried breaking the camera i would still have the memory card, [/ QUOTE ] How is it locked so good that someone can't steal it? Cables or padlocks are easily cut off with bolt cutters. Even if they can't get it off...not sure about your camera...but I don't think the plastic shell of my camera or the plastic memory card would hold up to a good bashing with a ball bat or tire iron. I wouldn't chance leaving my camera out there....think about it, they are going to be PO'd when they find their stands gone...IF they find your camera...they're going to take it out on it. Either stealing it...or destroying it....I'd go get it out of there. [/ QUOTE ] Ditto. Or, they may just steal it and use it themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? I think you should just take the stands and get your stuff out of there for now. Then let it cool off and go back in and check for more and then repeat above. Definately don't leave your stuff in there. I have this same kind of problem with my families land in Maine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooBear Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? Maybe I am wrong, but I would set the stands down at the base of the tree with a note. I would explain in the note that you will now be hunting that ground alone. The stands are not worth starting a war over. I have seen that happen around here before. People retaliate by stealing stands, throwing meat around your stands, putting bait under your stands and calling the Warden, etc. You end up spending the whole season worried about your stands and your ground instead of hunting. I think its not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] Maybe I am wrong, but I would set the stands down at the base of the tree with a note. I would explain in the note that you will now be hunting that ground alone. The stands are not worth starting a war over. I have seen that happen around here before. People retaliate by stealing stands, throwing meat around your stands, putting bait under your stands and calling the Warden, etc. You end up spending the whole season worried about your stands and your ground instead of hunting. I think its not worth it. [/ QUOTE ] It could get to be "whoever strikes the first match...." I'd take the stands and leave a note for them to come get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Maybe I am wrong, but I would set the stands down at the base of the tree with a note. I would explain in the note that you will now be hunting that ground alone. The stands are not worth starting a war over. I have seen that happen around here before. People retaliate by stealing stands, throwing meat around your stands, putting bait under your stands and calling the Warden, etc. You end up spending the whole season worried about your stands and your ground instead of hunting. I think its not worth it. [/ QUOTE ] It could get to be "whoever strikes the first match...." I'd take the stands and leave a note for them to come get them. [/ QUOTE ]I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? Wow I can not wait to hear how all of this comes out!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? [ QUOTE ] I'd take the stands, remove your cameras, and pin a note to the trees that said "if you want your stands back, here's the address. You're tresspassing." A scumbag that will tresspass will surely take your trail cam too. [/ QUOTE ] Got to agree with Chris on this one for sure. Would pull the stands and most likely not leave a camera, unless you have it hung locked high in a tree out of sight and it is an IR camera. Think leaving a note is probably the best idea, but it needs to be weather proof somehow, as those who left them may not return until late in the summer. If they have not come after the cameras by the time next season rolls around, would keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? Only truly secure way to catch them on camera is to use a cellular setup like the pixcontroller cellular eye that sends pics to a email address or a cell phone as they are taken. If your camera is out of direct line of sight out of reach, and is an IR camera with no flash, you might catch them without them knowing the camera is there, but you still risk losing the cam either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? I am going to have to disagree with the majority here. It is not your land, therefore I don't believe you have the right to take the stands. The landowner would. Now I do agree with the others here, if you value your camera, your probably ought to get it out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? If the landowner grants you permission and gives you the authority to, I would not hesitate to take them, however texastrophies is right here. I had not thought about you not being the landowner. Had a similar situation here with a ground blind on my neighbors land just this past fall where we are the only ones he allows to hunt it. With talking with the wildlife resource agency here, they said if the landowner tells you it is ok to do so, you can remove the trespassers stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6sixpoint_nobrows Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? ok so i went and got my camera down, there was no pictures yet. the stands are still laying there. I think ill write a note and put it in a zip lock baggy and pin it to a tree by the stands. Today we are going to get some 2x4's and go out there and put some up to block off the 4 wheeler track they decide to put in, its in the middle of the timber and its about a half acre, they cut down tree's and and destroyed just about everything close to it. This is sending me over the edge, im thinking about what you guys said about putting your camera out of reach, i think im going to get the climbing sticks and set them up on a tree and put my camera way up in a tree facing down towards the track, camo it up reallly well so the only thing showing is the sensor and the eye, and then take the sticks down and leave it for awhille. Idk just a thought...but we have found some nice sheds out there this spring so im just afraid of there pressure bumping big deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Re: Question of Character? "If the landowner grants you permission and gives you the authority to" That's the bottom line right there. If you are acting on the landowner's behalf, then do what you have to do, but if you are acting on your own behalf, on someone elses property, you're in the wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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