toddyboman Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Do we really want to travel down this road.........:o (Luke you started this) I was thinking about the so called sports and which ones are or are not sports... What defines a sport??? Is fishing hot dog eating NASCAR cheerleading pool/billiards poker is the jockey in horse racing a athlete Water sking Im sure this is more. These are all things/events we see on ESPN, which is a sporting channel so.....are they sports or are some just competitions?????:confused::):D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 ha oh this could be fun. In my mind these are sports: Baseball basketball football soccer hockey tennis golf lacrosse volleyball if i left out any, you get what i'm saying. Racing cars is not to me. (should i build a bomb shelter? or wear bulletproof armor? ha) nor is eating a hot dog or pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Do we really want to travel down this road.........:o (Luke you started this) I was thinking about the so called sports and which ones are or are not sports... What defines a sport??? Is fishing hot dog eating NASCAR cheerleading pool/billiards poker is the jockey in horse racing a athlete Water sking Im sure this is more. These are all things/events we see on ESPN, which is a sporting channel so.....are they sports or are some just competitions?????:confused::):D The only sport in your list is waterskiing. The others are endeavors, or pasttimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Water skiing is definitely a sport. Anything that takes physical skill and endurance is a sport. I think.......... According to the dictionary: sport –noun 1.an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 The only sport in your list is waterskiing. The others are endeavors, or pasttimes. I would like to see you Chris drive a 3400 pound stock car for 3 1/2 to 4 hours and then tell me its not a sport. Tons of mental concentration, tons of arm strength, good feel with your feet and eyes that are always on the look out for an opening or danger. Plus you get to do all of that in a nice firesuit in a 130 deg C cockpit of a race car. What the heck, toss in some carbon monoxide too!! Racing is indeed a sport, every look at the condition of the drivers? None look like John Daly do they? LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 :eek: How in the world did I become the fall guy for this post ?? ... :eek: And YES ,,AUTO RACING is a sport ... the conditioning these athlete's (drivers) do in the off season and even during the season matches any that any other sport athlete would endour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted July 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 :eek: How in the world did I become the fall guy for this post ?? ... :eek: How you say.... Originally Posted by VermontHunter and they say NASCAR isn't a sport ... Give me a break .. :rolleyes: Maybe we need to start a new thread for that one.....:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 sport –noun 1.an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. That's good. For those of you who only see racing on TV (or even at the track) and only see what happens on track, you have no idea. I pit for a dirt modified, and it is pretty surprising that after 10 lap Heat races to see the drivers get out of the cars and be soaking wet from driving their butts off. It takes a ton of physical and mental endurance to race. If any one of you doubters were to get in a car and race, or go down in the pits for a race, you'd have a totally different opinion. I can't think of too many other sports that go non-stop like racing. Hockey and basketball are a couple that come to mind. In sports like football and baseball you have the opportunity for a bit of down time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 That's good. For those of you who only see racing on TV (or even at the track) and only see what happens on track, you have no idea. I pit for a dirt modified, and it is pretty surprising that after 10 lap Heat races to see the drivers get out of the cars and be soaking wet from driving their butts off. It takes a ton of physical and mental endurance to race. If any one of you doubters were to get in a car and race, or go down in the pits for a race, you'd have a totally different opinion. I can't think of too many other sports that go non-stop like racing. Hockey and basketball are a couple that come to mind. In sports like football and baseball you have the opportunity for a bit of down time. But it's not athletic I guess is my point, it's just driving. Those guys sweat as a product of the heat from the engine, not from exertion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Chris, muscling a 3500 lbs. car that is using over 800 hp. for 500 miles non-stop isn't exertion ?? :confused: Heck, forget about the oval racing,, just imagine the road courses ... A race car driver is an athelete in every sense of the word/meaning to me .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Those guys sweat as a product of the heat from the engine, not from exertion. You're kidding, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 is drag racing a sport?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 is drag racing a sport?? Riding a rail ,,, is NO easy task my friend .. You're doing about 15 different things at once, and keeping it just on the edge of wrecking.... :eek: what do you think ?? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Is fishing - competition-yes, athlete no hot dog eating - neither NASCAR - hmmm, sport-yes, athlete-kinda cheerleading - sport-no, competition-yes, athlete-yes pool/billiards - competition-yes, athlete-no poker - competition-yes, athlete-no is the jockey in horse racing a athlete - horse is the athlete, much like the nascar is Water sking = sport and athlete of course, I could be wrong, as I often am...but what the heck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Ugh... Can I just ask one question? What does it matter if freaking Nascar is considered a "sport" or not? Does it really impact anything? Will it change it's entertainment value in your eyes? No... It's always the same arguement too. "Well, I'd like to see ________ drive a car at high speeds for long periods of time." I probably can't drive a Nascar effectively, but I also can't weave a basket effectively either. If I use the Nascar defense, what does that leave us with? So gentlemen and lady, I pose this question to you. Basket weaving, sport or not sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Basket weaving would only be considered a sport if one were doing it while driving in a NASCAR race.:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Basket weaving would only be considered a sport if one were doing it while driving in a NASCAR race.:D:D Now that would be something...and even while doing that, you'd still be able to beat Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Ugh... Can I just ask one question? What does it matter if freaking Nascar is considered a "sport" or not? Does it really impact anything? Will it change it's entertainment value in your eyes? No... It's always the same arguement too. "Well, I'd like to see ________ drive a car at high speeds for long periods of time." I probably can't drive a Nascar effectively, but I also can't weave a basket effectively either. If I use the Nascar defense, what does that leave us with? So gentlemen and lady, I pose this question to you. Basket weaving, sport or not sport? Hmmmmm. This sure sounds familiar?? Didn't someone ask a similar question earlier this year??? Oh yeah! It was you.:D Deja Vu??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hmmmmm. This sure sounds familiar?? Didn't someone ask a similar question earlier this year??? Oh yeah! It was you.:D Deja Vu??? Ummmm, Yeah...I don't consider Nascar a sport, nor the drivers athletes. I've never contradicted that either. What I'm saying in this thread is that it's not a sport and so what if it isn't? I like throwing darts, but if someone said "darts are not a sport" I wouldn't go crazy and say "well, I'd like to see you throw 4 bullseyes in a row!!!" Try to follow along Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I'm trying to follow but its hard to follow someone when they keep backtracking.:D The underlying reasoning behind my post was to point out how quickly your opinion's change. Today it's "What does it matter if freaking Nascar is considered a "sport" or not?". In May it was "I know driving a racecar is a chellenging thing to do, and it takes endurance and concentration...but can we really classify Nascar drivers as "sports figures" or "atheletes"? But I think I'm finally beginning to get the big picture. It's OK for you to stir the pot but when someone else does "does it really freaking matter"????? Stir....stir....stir...stir.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 So gentlemen and lady, I pose this question to you. Basket weaving, sport or not sport? in considering the hand-eye coordination required, plus most baskets are weaved in hot climates, so they probably sweat alot.....and since nascar followers use these examples to claim the driver's are athletes.....so, I'd have to admit basket weavers to be athletes too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I'm trying to follow but its hard to follow someone when they keep backtracking.:D The underlying reasoning behind my post was to point out how quickly your opinion's change. Today it's "What does it matter if freaking Nascar is considered a "sport" or not?". In May it was "I know driving a racecar is a chellenging thing to do, and it takes endurance and concentration...but can we really classify Nascar drivers as "sports figures" or "atheletes"? But I think I'm finally beginning to get the big picture. It's OK for you to stir the pot but when someone else does "does it really freaking matter"????? Stir....stir....stir...stir.:D Yeah, I get the point you were trying to make...I'm just saying that said point is severely flawed. My beliefs are: Nascar is not a sport AND that fact should not matter to someone who is a fan of Nascar. Follow? I hope so, it's not very complex.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Yeah, I get the point you were trying to make...I'm just saying that said point is severely flawed. My beliefs are: Nascar is not a sport AND that fact should not matter to someone who is a fan of Nascar. Follow? I hope so, it's not very complex.:D i.e.--it's not complex to waffle. Muggs can rationalize anything in his mind and twist words even when the evidence stares him in the face. You should run for office Eric. You could do a better job than Kucinich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Again, my only point and agruement has always been: Nascar is not a sport, and why should that matter? How does that contradict anything I've ever said in the past on this, or any other forum for that matter? Speaking of running for office Chris, you and Kev dodge more direct questions than Slick Willy Clinton did during his time in the Oval Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I really don't care whether or not people consider it to be a sport or not. To me, it is more of a way of life. However, Ernest Hemmingway said "There are only three true sports; Auto Racing, Bullfighting and Mountain Climbing. All the rest are children's games at which men play." There is some debate as to whether he actually wrote that or not, but it is a cool nonetheless! Also read this analysis of that quote some time back, not exactly what i believe but pretty interesting: "I believe that this statement is very true, for these activities (in my opinion) are the only the only ones in which the participant puts his life in jeopardy everytime he engages in the activity (bull fighting being the most dangerous, followed by a tie bewteen racing and climbing). Granted you can be severly injured or die playing baseball, football, gymnastics, or golf (maybe even checkers, I don't know). Also, what really makes it a sport is the fact that you, and you alone determine the outcome, you have no teammates to hang on for you, or to distract the bull, you are alone in the fight." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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