buckee Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 In your opinion, what's the best Expandables out there today. My buddy is thinking of getting back into archery after being away for 7 years. (This will be good info for others as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 IMHO of course it's either the Grim Reaper Razor Tip or the G5 Tekan II with the Spitfire Pro tagging along for good measure ..;) My choice in the woods are the Grim Reapers, only because I have more experience with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Steve, not sure on how the point for the Grim Reaper is built, but the one on the Tekan II APPEARS to be dang near indestructable. I prefer the blades that open to the rear, like the Tekan and the Rage. (Don't know how the GR opens) But this is all JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 have seen the work that the Grim Reaper's do............they are a pretty awesome broadhead. Had a buddy kill an elk with one. He shot the elk at 35 yards and the elk dropped right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wildotter Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'll be using the Tekan II this year. I shot the rage broadheads (2-blade) last year. They cut one heck of a hole, but they just don't hold up. Had blades snapping off in layered target, and a one even snapped the head clean off down inside the arrow shaft! These appeared to be a one shot broadhead! More like disposables!? And that can get expensive!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I was thinking about getting the Rage 3 blade,but now Wildotter has me thinking.I did see that Rage has a recall on some 3-blade heads.I've heard good things about the grim Reapers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Rage 2 blades or the Spitfires...........I would shoot the Rage. Spitfire would be second choice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Rage 2 or 3 blades, and Grim reapers...have seen what the grim reapers can do up closer (a few people i know have shot several deer with them) as for the rages...i have seen picture on other forums of what they have done to deer and hogs....the things look deadly...looks like someone sliced the animals open with a knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Aren't reapers what Chaffin shot last year when all the blades sheered off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddhunter Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I just got the New Primos DVD and they are shooting Stricnines this year and the dear they shot with them didn't go very far and they cut an awesome hole. They were shooting a 2" cut head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Aren't reapers what Chaffin shot last year when all the blades sheered off. Not sure about that ,,, but here's the Grim Reaper that blew through the exit shoulder of the deer I shot last this season... As you notice the all of the blades are still intact,, one is slightly bent,,, but considering this head tore through bone I'd say it held up fairly well .. As with any BH Head tho,, I can see where any of them would have a few bad apples.. Jason, the tip on these aren't that dissimilar to the Muzzy tips ,, almost industructable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I found Dan's thread on AT. Only one blade sheered off. I base alot of my BH choice on this guys forums. He does great tests that show what a head will and will not do. I am a paying member there but this is on the free part of the site. His test on the Grim Reaper. http://btreviews.proboards57.com/index.cgi?board=ex&action=display&thread=1177413447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ptbuckpa Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I haven't shot them but like the design of the Rage broadheads I plan on getting the 3 blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 The Grim Reaper is a great one as is G5's Tekan II's. Don't limit yourself to mechanicals as fixed broadheads are getting better and better. I have both in my quiver, Grim Reapers and G5 strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covehnter Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I've shot several expandables over the past several years but the problem with all expandable heads is durability. With the slightest bending of the blades they no longer function correctly, that is if they dont break. It's like a one shot deal, which i've chosen heads mostly on cutting dia. so the blades were long and thin. But the heads i've shot are the 100 gr Vortex 2 blades- very simple head, large 2 1/2 inch cutting diameter. Seen the most deer die from this head, a real killer but .027 blades means you seldom are able to use the same blades but replacements are reasonable. Spitfire- 100gr 3 blade. . . . a little more durable as far as blades are concerned but just didnt like the snap-lock design of the blades. Some heads didnt seem to function well right out of the pack. A real pain to take apart and assemble. But, watched 3 deer die to these heads last year and all in sight. . . . good penetration into bone as well. Rocket Hammerheads- 100gr 3 blade This is the head the Primos boys were using on their videos. A 2 inch hole is pretty nasty with 3 blades cutting, great flying head but the blades are not for shootin' 2 animals. They always were severely bent and often broken upon retrieval. This year i'm moving to the 100gr Slick Tricks to give fixed heads a try, it's been sometime since i've shot fixed blades and since a trip for elk was on the calendar i opted to got with penetration this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I've shot several expandables over the past several years but the problem with all expandable heads is durability. With the slightest bending of the blades they no longer function correctly, that is if they dont break. It's like a one shot deal, which i've chosen heads mostly on cutting dia. so the blades were long and thin. But the heads i've shot are the 100 gr Vortex 2 blades- very simple head, large 2 1/2 inch cutting diameter. Seen the most deer die from this head, a real killer but .027 blades means you seldom are able to use the same blades but replacements are reasonable. Spitfire- 100gr 3 blade. . . . a little more durable as far as blades are concerned but just didnt like the snap-lock design of the blades. Some heads didnt seem to function well right out of the pack. A real pain to take apart and assemble. But, watched 3 deer die to these heads last year and all in sight. . . . good penetration into bone as well. Rocket Hammerheads- 100gr 3 blade This is the head the Primos boys were using on their videos. A 2 inch hole is pretty nasty with 3 blades cutting, great flying head but the blades are not for shootin' 2 animals. They always were severely bent and often broken upon retrieval. This year i'm moving to the 100gr Slick Tricks to give fixed heads a try, it's been sometime since i've shot fixed blades and since a trip for elk was on the calendar i opted to got with penetration this year. I concur with the assessment expandables are typically, one animal per head broadheads. But sometimes they are the only way to get any accuracy out of a bow at greater than 25 yard distances. Bottomline, you don't care about cost if you miss. I like the way Rocket Aeroheads fly. My experience harvesting game with them is honestly limited. Just one critter with a 100gr Sidewinder. I was however very pleased with it's results. I have a friend who exclusively uses Eastman Outfitters Silverstrike Broadheads. He has successfully harvested almost two dozen animals with these heads at varying ranges. They fly great out of his setup and are one of the most economical expandables out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I found Dan's thread on AT. Only one blade sheered off. I base alot of my BH choice on this guys forums. He does great tests that show what a head will and will not do. I am a paying member there but this is on the free part of the site. His test on the Grim Reaper. http://btreviews.proboards57.com/index.cgi?board=ex&action=display&thread=1177413447 i have read some reviews of his in the past...and while i have nothing against him or his tests...i'd base my selections off of people who have actually used them to take an animal. thats the only test i need, shooting a piece of wood, or car door, or phone book, tells me nothing about what it will do to a deer. i'd rather here real stories about how good of a blood trail they left, how far the animal usually goes (which usually will very) and how big of an exit and entry hole it leaves. now with the grim reapers...everyone i know around here that has shot em, have no complaints, and the other couple of boards, along with this one, the majoirty of peopel had nothing but good things to say about them after harvesting an animal. I do enjoy reading his test though, it is kind of fun to see what kind of damage they do to some of the stuff he shoots ...but when choosing a head to shoot, i head here or to the other boards for some real life info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 He tests every broadhead on a deer scapula(shoulder blade) to see the extent of the damage, as well as blad sharpness, flight charateristics, and actual weight vs advertised weight. The reason he shoots a board is to test similar characteristis of a bone. Phone book is merely a penetration test that makes it equal for all heads. He also shoots them out of 3 different bows......a bowtech black knight 352 FPS tuned, Reflex detuned 1/4 inch, and recurve. He doesn't shoot any car doors. You are thinking of Jerry/NJ over on AT. Bowtech's board carries alot of weight and his tests can sho you the true benefits or problems with a head. Although unconventional they do work. Also all heads are on a level playing field. Good or bad he shows it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 i know the tests, have read plenty of em....but like i said, i'd rather base my pick of head off of real situations where someone has taken an animal with them... some of his test fail some of the most popular heads out there, but yet tons of people are still using them and being successful with them year after year..one example..Muzzy 4 blades how many people do you think have been successful with these over the years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yep it failed but only because of flight characteristics. Every other catagory it passed. In fact it was a 96% so it was very close but you have to remember he strives for perfection. I've never personally seen him shoot a car door on either of his websites but it is possible. I simply wanted to show that he shows no head any bias and shows that all are tested fairly. Your right there are alot killed with Muzzy 4 blades.......Anything can kill, heck indian used flint rock but that doesn't make it the best broadhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 you said you were a paid member there right? how long does it take for them to "approve" you memebership or what ever it is they do? i did the pay pal thing and then registered and enter the activation key they sent. then it said i had to wait for approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Took me less than an hour to recieve my confirmation. Is the car door pic over there? I would like to see it. Do you remember what head he was testing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Is the car door pic over there? I would like to see it. Do you remember what head he was testing? i'm not sure if it was him, i know it was a loooong time ago...i could have been thinking of the guy at AT though....either way, shooting at a car door is some good entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I totally agree. I've seen Jerry shoot up a nissan, a microwave, and a few other things. Did the test prove anything.............No, but I laughed til I cried. BTW- for those of you interested here is a link to the Muzzy 4 blade 100 grain. Also that is what I shoot but I'm only pushing about 275-280. Bowtech is pushing like 352 fps and that really will show weather a head will plane or not. http://btreviews.proboards57.com/index.cgi?board=bh&action=display&thread=1176922645 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I totally agree. I've seen Jerry shoot up a nissan, a microwave, and a few other things. Did the test prove anything.............No, but I laughed til I cried. that nissan might be the one i am thinking of...did he have a video of it?? yeah i am pretty positve that is the guy i am thinking of...some of them are hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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