Rage broadhead testimonals?

[wildthing]

I was at a Sportman's Warehouse in Pittsburgh, Pa over the past weekend. A few guys from Drury Outdoors and RealTree were there...pretty cool...though I didn't get a chance to talk to them.

In any event, I went to the archery department, and found where the store sold broadheads. They were completely sold out of the Rage Broadheads! Both 2 and 3 blade! These new boradheads are flying off the shelves and are truly going to get field tested this year! Will some of the engineering flaws and recalls, as a outdoorsman, I hope that deer are harvested and not wounded! I am just not completely sold, this year, on the Rage. I am going to stick with the Muzzy 100's I have been shooting over the past few years.

As the season rapidly approaches...for all the hunters who are participating...let's keep this thread going through the season. I like the engineering concept behind the Rage, but I need to hear and see more field testing before I think I am going to commit to buying and using.

Let's keep up to friendly dialogue and have a great harvest this fall!

[Guest shtr]

I know he is the tester. I can not be more clear, I am talking about the REVIEWS ON THE CABELA's SITE. There must be over 40 reviews of people saying the Grim Reaper and Rage 3 Blade give great performance. The tester who runs his own site http://btreviews.proboards57.com/ind...7994389&page=1 is saying the Grim Reaper and the Rage 3 Blade are failing his tests, and are very poor performing heads.

The point is in order to believe the testers findings, we must not believe the reviews on the Cabels's web site. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1699265 this is a pic and story of a dead elk with a massive hole from a Rage 3 Blade. This is in direct contradiction to the tester who says they do not open.

Please understand that when I fail a product that does not mean that it sucks.

(usually)

What it means is that it can fail under extreme circumstances.

The biggest thing is that I have well over 2000 clients who do nothing more than read these test and darned if I don't get people commenting that the same things happened to them in the field whenever a head fails.

Any head will work (pretty much any head) when it's put into the rib cage and through the lungs.

There are a few that can withstand a center scapula hit and fall the animal every time.

Why do we care about a scapula when we are shooting for the ribs?

On the whitetail , the single most often hit solid mass bone is the scapula and it leads to the highest rate of loses.

We have proven out that these loses are generally caused by head relates failures at the time of impact.

We are looking for those heads which can accomplish the task of weathering that abuse every time when combined with proper K.E.

The Rage/Grim reapers were 2 heads (out of many) that cannot take this type of stress every time or even some times depending on which head we are referring too.

[wildthing]

I am sure the Rage team will work out the design flaws and these broadheads will be a great product for years to come. Right now...I need to see more positive info and field tests. For me, if equipment is getting recalled, etc., etc., I stay away until the problems are worked out. I simply don't want to risk wounding any animal.

[VermontHunter]

The Rage/Grim reapers were 2 heads (out of many) that cannot take this type of stress every time or even some times depending on which head we are referring too.

I'll continue to use and give a good rating to the Grim Reaper heads. Until this head head fails on me in the actual field the so called testing comment above holds NO weight with me...:rolleyes:

Here's the Grim Reaper Head that passed through the last rib on entrance and exited the shoulder on the opposite side ..

Looks as if it did the job it was intended to do to me .. New set of replacement blades and good to go.. In fact this very head I used to take a Doe with the following weekend..

I have yet to see a Broad Head that could repeatedly be shot through bone without damage of some sort (fixed blade or mechanical) ... So I don't know what you might be referring to in above comment... :confused: If you are shooting for the shoulder,, you are aiming in the wrong place to start,, where's that the heads fault ?? I'll agree with you on one part ,, BAD SHOT placement is the leading reason for lost game(I've been there),,, NOT the performance of the head ..

IMHO,, I think Mechanicals are given a bad rap ..

PLEASE take note,, this is only my view, and it's not intended to start a fight... Just offering up some actual field experience with the Grim Reaper Head ..

[bwlacy]

Well my dad got the 3 blade Rages last week. Tested them today and they opened everytime. All 3 heads flew great and opened fully on every shot. Just wondering if the ones that didn't open were the ones that got recalled.

Matt

[Guest shtr]

I know he is the tester. I can not be more clear, I am talking about the REVIEWS ON THE CABELA's SITE. There must be over 40 reviews of people saying the Grim Reaper and Rage 3 Blade give great performance. The tester who runs his own site http://btreviews.proboards57.com/ind...7994389&page=1 is saying the Grim Reaper and the Rage 3 Blade are failing his tests, and are very poor performing heads.

The point is in order to believe the testers findings, we must not believe the reviews on the Cabels's web site. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1699265 this is a pic and story of a dead elk with a massive hole from a Rage 3 Blade. This is in direct contradiction to the tester who says they do not open.

I don't believe that this is true at all.

The tests @ btreviews are done to prove out the best performing heads.

Any failure at all will fail the whole head.

There is no mention that any failed heads cannot kill ..... they just are not going to kill all the time or as readily as the passing heads in a worst case scenario.

The 3 blade rage was a particular disappointment because of it's multi failures throughout 2 tests.

This particular broadhead would never find it's way into the field in my quiver under any circumstances whereas (if forced by threat of physical violence) I would carry the grim reaper.

[Tom2008]

The Rage's definatley do some damage and especially the two bladed ones! The holes are massive and so are the blood trails. A new broadhead that came out this year I think is the Piston Points. They look like an awesome mechanical and I'm not a mechanical guy, but would try these heads. They leave a very massive hole too. The blades do not open until they make contact with the target. My buddy tested a few and they fly just like field points.

http://www.pistonpoint.com/technology.html

[Guest shtr]

I'll continue to use and give a good rating to the Grim Reaper heads. Until this head head fails on me in the actual field the so called testing comment above holds NO weight with me...:rolleyes:

Here's the Grim Reaper Head that passed through the last rib on entrance and exited the shoulder on the opposite side ..

Looks as if it did the job it was intended to do to me .. New set of replacement blades and good to go.. In fact this very head I used to take a Doe with the following weekend..

I have yet to see a Broad Head that could repeatedly be shot through bone without damage of some sort (fixed blade or mechanical) ... So I don't know what you might be referring to in above comment... :confused: If you are shooting for the shoulder,, you are aiming in the wrong place to start,, where's that the heads fault ?? I'll agree with you on one part ,, BAD SHOT placement is the leading reason for lost game(I've been there),,, NOT the performance of the head ..

IMHO,, I think Mechanicals are given a bad rap ..

I agree with you and I am a huge mechanical fan.

I am a fan of those mechanicals that work flawlessly.

Whereas the high majority do not support the use of mechanicals due to hearsay and brain washing , I actually know what they are capable of on the whole and to tell the truth , I would take the best expandable over the best fixed replacement head any day.

You seem a bit unaware about this particular testing and seem to have been subjected to testing that is pretty much worthless so I will try and educate you as to the testing that is being referred too.

(by the way.....nice bend on that grim reaper and the apparent missing blades up front are a nice touch )

The tests are run through whitetails....shoulders and ribs.

Bottom line is that aside from flight , the scapula totals most heads out there....grim reaper included.

People who want to go out prepared for the worst often do the best and these tests provide the best indication of what will happen due to the fact that they are done on real animals.

The fact that a head can get new blades has nothing to do with this testing format.

The fact that the blades may not be on the head at all once they clear the bone is the issue.

It doesn't matter if your shooting for the shoulder or not....you can hit it just as quickly if that deer suddenly steps forward or ducks out.

You say that you will stop shooting that head once it fails....alot of people don't want failure at all....for the sake of the animal and their own loss.

[VermontHunter]

You say that you will stop shooting that head once it fails....alot of people don't want failure at all....for the sake of the animal and their own loss.

Absolutely right ,, we don't want failures with any of our hunting equipment ... but there's NO guarantee's to any aspect of hunting equipment .. ;)

And as you notice all of the blades are intact on that Reaper Head... and all three blades were open when I picked it up from the ground... The loss of one of the tip blades to me was very minimal as to it did it's job already by gaining the penetration needed for the rear blade deployment that doe's the actual lethal damage..

Again note I didn't hide any of the damage that this head sustained... 1 bent blade and 1 missing contact tip blade.. 1 very dead deer after this head entered just behind the last rib and exited the opposite shoulder .... This is how I passed this head in performance..

I replaced all of the blades and then killed another whitetail with it ... So to fail this head just because it fails when it's shot into shoulder bone repeatedly is unfair in my opinion.. If I have to scrap a head after a kill I will and consider it's job done if it lethally kills my game.... small price to pay IMHO..

Just a question... why is it I never see any pics of a MUZZY or any other fixed blade head after being pounded receptively into shoulder bone ??? ... but yet these fixed blade heads always seem to get raving reviews...:confused:

[Guest john9]

"Well my dad got the 3 blade Rages last week. Tested them today and they opened everytime. All 3 heads flew great and opened fully on every shot. Just wondering if the ones that didn't open were the ones that got recalled."

The ones I tested are not the recalled heads. I attached a piece of cardboard over the Delta buck target. The marks in the cardboard show 1 or no blades opened on impact. The heads where sticking out the back side of the target. 1 or no blades opened after total pass threw of the foam vital section.

Do not mistake the cut marks the blades make even in the closed position, thinking the blades have opened. I did my test at 18 yards with a bow making 60 lbs of KE. These where brand new heads with square shoulders, (not the rounded recalled ones) I checked each blade before shooting to make sure they moved freely, they did. I wanted these heads to work. 3 heads, 3 shots, 3 failures.

If they opened for you this time, how do you know next time, the next pack you buy, they will not fail like mine? The Rage 3 blade is an inherently flawed design. there is no other way to explain their random performance. You want my 3 once shot heads? they are yours, on one condition.... Promise not to shoot them at a living deer.

[Guest bowhunter56]

Not enough positive comments, to make me want to use them..

[mule659]

I was super excited about the rage heads until I got mine home...the "cut on contact" tip was no sharper than the package it came in...I seriously ran my finger across it many times and it did not even leave a mark. The blades felt cheap and unstable to me and were not nearly as sharp as I would like ( couldn't shave any hair off my arm with them ) I have decided to stop spending money to even try mechanical heads...too much can go wrong. At least with my fixed blade heads I know they are going to do damage on impact and I dont have to worry if they are going to open or hold up. Also a problem with most mechanicals that I dont like is that if you dont get a pass through you have an entry wound approximately the diameter of your arrow shaft with your arrow shaft plugging the hole...not too good for the blood trail. Well I figured since everyone else had their $0.02 in I would give mine

[LifeNRA]

"Well my dad got the 3 blade Rages last week. Tested them today and they opened everytime. All 3 heads flew great and opened fully on every shot. Just wondering if the ones that didn't open were the ones that got recalled."

The ones I tested are not the recalled heads. I attached a piece of cardboard over the Delta buck target. The marks in the cardboard show 1 or no blades opened on impact. The heads where sticking out the back side of the target. 1 or no blades opened after total pass threw of the foam vital section.

Do not mistake the cut marks the blades make even in the closed position, thinking the blades have opened. I did my test at 18 yards with a bow making 60 lbs of KE. These where brand new heads with square shoulders, (not the rounded recalled ones) I checked each blade before shooting to make sure they moved freely, they did. I wanted these heads to work. 3 heads, 3 shots, 3 failures.

If they opened for you this time, how do you know next time, the next pack you buy, they will not fail like mine? The Rage 3 blade is an inherently flawed design. there is no other way to explain their random performance. You want my 3 once shot heads? they are yours, on one condition.... Promise not to shoot them at a living deer.

I think you should have backed up your statement here with some pictures!

[VermontHunter]

I did a little digging on some Broad Head testing and found something very interesting,, and contradicts what some have to say about the Grim Reaper head in particular ..

Here's a little testamonial statement made by Wade Nolan of Whitetail University ..

PENETRATION TEST - FIXED VS.. MECHANICAL

Mechanical issue may be settled after a series of scientific tests conducted last month in Utah. Grim Reaper president and founder, Jay Liechty looks over some of the results of the Mil. Spec. ballistic gelatin slow motion penetration test. What we learned during the testing is going to make you re-think what you thought you knew about broadhead performance. The Grim Reaper penetration testing was conducted at the Gold Tip Shooting lab by Jay Liechty, Marvin Carlston and Wade Nolan. We used identical arrows and broadhead weights, shot from the same bow and launched by a Hooter Shooter into Mil. Spec. Ballistic Gelatin. A 12X12 inch square if inner-tube was stretched across the front of the gelatin to simulate skin.

Technology prevailed in the testing and the Grim Reaper Razortip (cut-on-contact tip) combined with the patented MAXX-EDGE SS blade technology made an amazing difference in total penetration

Set all of your pre-conceived notions aside... you are about to be educated!

Check out this video ...

http://www.whitetailu.com/grimreapervideoREVISED.htm

And here's another article posted on HuntingNet.com....

http://www.huntingnet.com/articles/articles.aspx?articles_id=529

http://www.huntingnet.com/articles/articles.aspx?articles_id=565

Like I said earlier I think that Mechanicals of today are getting a very bad rap.... :(

[Guest shtr]

Absolutely right ,, we don't want failures with any of our hunting equipment ... but there's NO guarantee's to any aspect of hunting equipment .. ;)

So to fail this head just because it fails when it's shot into shoulder bone repeatedly is unfair in my opinion.. If I have to scrap a head after a kill I will and consider it's job done if it lethally kills my game.... small price to pay IMHO..

As you said...your entrance was on the offside and it stopped in the scapula.

Thats not how these test are done.

They are shot through the scapula and only shot through once.

Repeated hammering wouldn't prove out anything.

Just a question... why is it I never see any pics of a MUZZY or any other fixed blade head after being pounded receptively into shoulder bone ??? ... but yet these fixed blade heads always seem to get raving reviews...:confused:

The Only rave review you've seen from me toward Muzzy is the MX-3

All Muzzys failed flight @ 327fps but......they all have survived the rest of testing without damage other than bent blades which is a muzzy trade mark.

I have nothing against muzzy at all from 280fps down

[Guest shtr]

Well my dad got the 3 blade Rages last week. Tested them today and they opened every time. All 3 heads flew great and opened fully on every shot. Just wondering if the ones that didn't open were the ones that got recalled.

Matt

not in my testing....both were defect free

The 3 blade rage operate better as speeds go down.

The 2 blade has no speed barrier.

At 324 I have not seen one open yet on hide,flesh or bone.

[Guest shtr]

I did a little digging on some Broad Head testing and found something very interesting,, and contradicts what some have to say about the Grim Reaper head in particular ..

Here's a little testimonial statement made by Wade Nolan of Whitetail University ..

PENETRATION TEST - FIXED VS.. MECHANICAL

Mechanical issue may be settled after a series of scientific tests conducted last month in Utah. Grim Reaper president and founder, Jay Liechty looks over some of the results of the Mil. Spec. ballistic gelatin slow motion penetration test. What we learned during the testing is going to make you re-think what you thought you knew about broadhead performance. The Grim Reaper penetration testing was conducted at the Gold Tip Shooting lab by Jay Liechty, Marvin Carlston and Wade Nolan. We used identical arrows and broadhead weights, shot from the same bow and launched by a Hooter Shooter into Mil. Spec. Ballistic Gelatin. A 12X12 inch square if inner-tube was stretched across the front of the gelatin to simulate skin.

Technology prevailed in the testing and the Grim Reaper Razortip (cut-on-contact tip) combined with the patented MAXX-EDGE SS blade technology made an amazing difference in total penetration

Set all of your pre-conceived notions aside... you are about to be educated!

Check out this video ...

http://www.whitetailu.com/grimreapervideoREVISED.htm

And here's another article posted on HuntingNet.com....

http://www.huntingnet.com/articles/articles.aspx?articles_id=529

http://www.huntingnet.com/articles/articles.aspx?articles_id=565

Like I said earlier I think that Mechanicals of today are getting a very bad rap.... :(

Of course...these tests are all the rage at my place and they are taken very seriously.

This test showed that the commentator sold the test and in actuality the expandable head lost every shot to the fixed head.

Considering that the blade mas is 60% less than the fixed heads that the grim reaper was shot against...thats pretty poor results.

Keep in mind....I am a huge expandable fan

I get a kick out of how some peoples opinion are just taken as the word of God because of who they are linked to.

Do you really believe that anyone at the whitetail institute has a working back ground in this subject?.

Trust me.....paid for advertisement by grim reaper and introduced by the white tail institute.

Grim reaper and many other broadhead companies finance these so called studies.

Guess who always does the best?.....the financier

I have tons of these reports and use them as demo's ......... a lot!

There are other reports that truly are trying to find answers but without the back ground in the area , they always end up making their case on assumptions and they are always easy to pick apart with the facts.

I only point this out because I think it's time for people to start thinking for themselves instead of being paraded around by the noses like bulls to the slaughter

[VermontHunter]

I get a kick out of how some peoples opinion are just taken as the word of God because of who they are linked to.

Absolutely NOT my opinion was and is based on the actual use of the grim reaper head .. ;) Like I said,, the same head pictured killed two very nice whitetails.. You don't mean to say that was a fluke do you ?? .. In my opinion this head performed it's duty flawlessly. Why is it because head sustains damage after killing an animal it's junk...??..:confused: I don't get this at all,, just replace the blades or worse case buy another head, just like any other broad head,, because I'm not buying the fact that most if not all heads shot into a shoulder won't sustain damage.. Just so we are clear I'm not saying you are trying to paint that picute at all...

I'm just trying to figure out why it is the Grim Reaper failed said testing .. It should only have to do it's job once IMHO...to PASS..

One ethical clean kill,, NOT the premise that bad shooters are hitting the shoulder, because I have to believe that there's alot more better shooters out there than not ..

We do agree on an important light tho,, and that's, mechanicals of today are given a bad rap..

[Michihunter]

Of course...these tests are all the rage at my place and they are taken very seriously.

This test showed that the commentator sold the test and in actuality the expandable head lost every shot to the fixed head.

Considering that the blade mas is 60% less than the fixed heads that the grim reaper was shot against...thats pretty poor results.

Keep in mind....I am a huge expandable fan

I get a kick out of how some peoples opinion are just taken as the word of God because of who they are linked to.

Do you really believe that anyone at the whitetail institute has a working back ground in this subject?.

Trust me.....paid for advertisement by grim reaper and introduced by the white tail institute.

Grim reaper and many other broadhead companies finance these so called studies.

Guess who always does the best?.....the financier

I have tons of these reports and use them as demo's ......... a lot!

There are other reports that truly are trying to find answers but without the back ground in the area , they always end up making their case on assumptions and they are always easy to pick apart with the facts.

I only point this out because I think it's time for people to start thinking for themselves instead of being paraded around by the noses like bulls to the slaughter

But we're supposed to believe you right? Is your opinion supposed to be the word of God too? Are you accusing the Whitetail Institute and Wade Nolan of deception? You've already accused them of not having enough knowledge to perform a test. What are your credentials? Do you have some type of formal training in regard to design and/or engineering? Please tell us what is so superior in your testing and opinions that can't be duplicated by anyone that can shoot a bow.

[VermontHunter]

Let's be nice to eash other here folks...;)

This can be a very informative thread for all of us,, but we all need to understand we all have opinions, and they can be stated without getting hostile with one another...

A Moderator won't hesitate on deleteing this if it gets out of hand... mark my words..;)

And I still love my Grim Reapers .. Anyone want to send me some ?? .. :D

[buckee]

Heck, I'm ready to give Grim Reapers a try now

I have been shooting the original Montec G5's for the past 3 years, and filled my tags, no problem

[Michihunter]

Let's be nice to eash other here folks...;)

This can be a very informative thread for all of us,, but we all need to understand we all have opinions, and they can be stated without getting hostile with one another...

A Moderator won't hesitate on deleteing this if it gets out of hand... mark my words..;)

And I still love my Grim Reapers .. Anyone want to send me some ?? .. :D

Just asking a few questions VH. Nothing hostile intended. I just find it ironic that a person would question someones motives or post something negative in regard to a test and/or tester by someone doing the same thing. One fair turn deserves another don't you think?

[VermontHunter]

Just asking a few questions VH. Nothing hostile intended. I just find it ironic that a person would question someones motives or post something negative in regard to a test and/or tester by someone doing the same thing. One fair turn deserves another don't you think?

[Guest shtr]

Let's be nice to eash other here folks...;)

This can be a very informative thread for all of us,, but we all need to understand we all have opinions, and they can be stated without getting hostile with one another...

A Moderator won't hesitate on deleteing this if it gets out of hand... mark my words..;)

And I still love my Grim Reapers .. Anyone want to send me some ?? .. :D

You have been a real gentleman and I have certainly enjoyed our back and forth.

For that reason , I am happy to post this test for you.

Please excuse the commentary .... I write these as I would speak to anyone in conversation.

I was not a fan of this head 2 years ago :'(

So much so that I wouldn't even test it

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First impressions: (mid. week)

I like the raised dimple that now holds the blade retainer C-ring in place much better than some years back.

I like the compression indent that runs the length of the blades in order to strengthen them.

I do not trust the ferrule or the blades based on nothing more than the look

Don't ask me why but the metal looks odd in the blade and the ferrule looks better but still .... there is something that I cant put my finger on ???

I still do not like the springs/rubber clasp or C-clasp :'(

I have nothing to say about the leading tip.

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Specs: Stated

.035" blade guage

85gr weight

1 3/8" cut

Actual :

.036" blade guage

90gr. weight

1 3/8" cut

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Flight:BK2

Spot on with the field point

[blue]PASS[/blue]

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Blade retention: BK2 (no shots taken)

Now here is what the package says ???

MAXX-EDGE SS BLADES ???

Best of both worlds - the STRENGTH of a thicker .035 blade

with the maximum razor SHARPNESS of a thinner .020 blade!

The .035" blade edge is necked down to .020 then sharpened!

(just like that....caps and all )

So .....SS (I take it) stands for super crapty ???

And here we go with the "razor sharpness"

Didn't we have another head just recently claiming razor something or other

I guess this is the new English that goes in lock step with the new math

Razor can imply dull or sharp :-/

Anyway.....

Here is where we start out each time , with the head resting on top of the grid.

(some heads like the silver flame cut through due to the weight of the arrow alone)

So far....so good

Now I take it (for the third time) down to the point where nearly every head out there will cut through and still no rubber band has given in

Below is a picture of the head as my son stands out of camera view on the nock ;D

Finally the head goes through and the rubber bands spring back to their positions :-[

Not once :'(

Not twice :'(

Not three times >

but! ...... 7 times before the grid lost a single band :-/

You have to be crapting me! :

[yellow]FAIL![/yellow]

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The Book: Shot with Reflex Grizzly

Well....when you are being taken to school you need to hit the books and sometimes books are just hard to get through

The razortip didn't help in the least as to penetration but how could it? ..... The blades didn't even get 1/2 open till page 247

considering that they didn't open at all on entry , thats to be expected I guess

How we got to 90% I'll never know ???

Maybe it was the razor tips

90%

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The Board:Shot with the BK2

Now it has been a heck of a long time since a ferrule failed and I nearly let this test go because it has an expense attached and as I said....it rarely finds a poor ferrule anymore :'(

But it did this time

It wasn't to bad....just a slight wobble on a spin test is all but enough to put this head in the dumpster. :-[

The board also proved out another thing and that is that these blades do not like to open :'(

(yes I did assemble them correctly)

That cut at 12:00 didn't get in the board at all but rather is the blade that jack hammered itself out of harms way.

Of course....when you don't get out of the way and decide to open a bit to late.....

The Grim (wonder if they call it grim because it describes your prospects of using this head twice ???) reaper lost one blade which broke off flush at the ferrule.

I cant find the Pic and the blades are not subject to a pass or fail in this area so no biggie.

Anyone who would like me to include a pic of the bent ferrule in a dial indicator please just say so and I will include it.

I had so many Pics for this test that I just didn't think of it till just now. :-/

[yellow]FAIL[/yellow]

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The ribs: Shot with the reflex Grizzly

Well at least I could count on the ribs as a pass

Only had 1 fail in this are since the sites inception and that was on a technicality.

Well ........ actually I will have to start saying two anymore and 1 on a technicality

By the way....If anyone finds an arrow with a reapers blade arrow wrap on it and a grim reaper broadhead attached , could you please send me the arrow

(you can keep the head :-[ )

30 degree angle at 25yrds and wha la! , watch the arrow fly away into the abyss :-/

This was just some silly crap :

Let me state the package here.....

and I quote...."RAZORTIPtm with angled shots the tip penetrates before the blades hit preventing jamming & deflection.

Hmmmm ???

Really?! ;D

and in case anyone is wondering where that arrow went?

This is all that I found , 15 yards past the target.

Just an 1 1/2" of my feather and nothing else :-[

[yellow]FAIL![/yellow]

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The scapula:Shot with the Grizzly

Well two days ago I found out that this head was going to fail so I grabbed a lamb scapula out of the freezer last night instead of a mature deer.

Cant waste scaps on heads that have already failed >

But bone is bone and if the blades were susceptible to being damaged this would at least show the evidence of that potential.

Did I mention the noise that these heads make when they open?....it is nuts!

I aimed very low to get a good bite into the most solid bone that I could and it worked.

But the head took a huge ass kicking from the little lamb leg :-/

Above we can see that the Reaper did not penetrate but rather blew a blade and jammed itself to a stop :-[

A first for any head and since this was a lamb shoulder it is utterly amazing to boot

Notice how the blades did not open

The arrow entered @ 30 degree's and the only cutting was from the razors that are in the leading tip :-[

The break was solid but as I said....devistating to the heads performance.

[Yellow]FAIL!![/yellow]

***you don't think I am going to pass any head that cant make it through a scapula do you?!

Besides....damage was @ 66%

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Summary:

I was wrong as to my asumptions this year and correct two years ago so at least give me some credit after having read my thoughts coming into this test :-X

The fact is that this REALLY makes me suspicious of all the hype I have seen on other sites as to the quality of this head ???

I know that there are alot of company's that have alot of people out there pitching their products based on freebies,money & just plain ignorance but this is the mother of all fabrications

I know that there are going to be alot of people out there saying that I am nuts or this or that but the evidence is shocking and overwhelming.

These heads suck!

[VermontHunter]

WOW.. Interesting to say the least..

When was this test performed again ?? (yr) Have you tested the latest heads (06-07) if these aren't recent test results ??

So if I was to change to a different broad head,, what head would you give me ?? fixed/ mechanical .. This would be interesting for me to know...

Thanks for the test results ...