Michihunter Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 It is interesting to see this subject come up year after year and it will probably come up a few more times in different posts this year alone. Everyone has there oppinion on what it may or may not do to the wildlife. I personally don't really care either way. I hunt in MI, IL, IN, and MO and it is only legal in MI. I do use bait when i hunt with my father for gun season. To me it seems wierd that so many biologists have so different theorys on this matter. I agree if you have a CWD problem in your state then actions need to taken to be sure this does not spread in which MI did and has since really got a handle on the situation. They have now pulled back on there no bait rules and made a quantity restriction on how much you could put out. Good to see they don't just fly off the handle and make decisions based on what the situation is. It all comes down to what we were taught when we first started hunting which makes us think that what someone else does different must be unethical or just not the right way. Always good to keep a open mind. Just a bit of clarification on the MI thing. Baiting has always been legal and was only restricted in the TB zone as far as whethr you can or can't bait. The limits for amount are for the rest of the state and have little to do with CWD which is not a current problem here. There is a addendum in the law pertaining to baiting that says that if any CWD becomes present within 50 miles of a neighboring county of another state, baiting will be suspended period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Opinions are just that, and you did ask. To each his own really, but in my opinion, legalizing bait will just make it that much easier for those who want to prepare minimally for the season and then just shoot whatever they can that will find its way to the bait, which to me seems like a lesser challenge. Pretty sure there are people in this state who do currently bait when season is open even though it is illegal. As I said, you may want to check the current handbook, with the article in there suggesting that people not bait, I have a hard time believing that they are going to go against that to allow baiting, but hey who knows. Look at page 24 in the handbook, there is a one page article, or here click on this link and go to page 26 http://state.tn.us/twra/pdfs/huntguide.pdf. For the deer per sq mile, check out Gibson county estimated numbers, last I saw at tndeer.com they still had Gibson listed as under 15 deer per sq mile. Looking at the harvest number totals, this county is one of the lowest ranked harvest totals in the liberal units. Someone in my opinion has made a huge error in pushing for these liberal limits. Your right on when you say those limits are a mistake I agree 100%!Ana after reading that article it looks to me like it wont be legalized.I have a friend that owns a big hunting ranch here in tnn and they have people from the outdoor channel and stuff like that hunt and they stay in touch with conservation officers and he heard from one of them that they may legalize bating thats why I brought it up as for wether or not they should I dont think its any different than hunting a food plot and I dont think that just because someone baits means they dont prepare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbuster12point06 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I feel if it is legal and ethical than by all means do it.........that being said I do not bait for deer and never would. where I hunt I find it more interesting to scout for sign and figure out travel routes and staging areas than to dump a pile of corn or apples and sit over it til a yearling walks in to get shot.Not only do I believe it is possible to spread certain disease through concentrated feeding/baiting but i think it is detrimental to hunters as it causes most mature deer to go nocturnal.....................but to each his/her own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 as for wether or not they should I dont think its any different than hunting a food plot and I dont think that just because someone baits means they dont prepare! That topic has come in here many times before and is almost always a pretty hotly debated topic. Seems that some hold the same view while many others see it a bit differently. If you want to bait where it is legal, I have no problem with it, dont think it is for me though. I personally do not think baiting is the same as hunting a food plot or the same as hunting an ag crop or orchard, just my opinion. A pile of food or a feeder dropping food at a set time is different than a large source that is available all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 That topic has come in here many times before and is almost always a pretty hotly debated topic. Seems that some hold the same view while many others see it a bit differently. If you want to bait where it is legal, I have no problem with it, dont think it is for me though. I personally do not think baiting is the same as hunting a food plot or the same as hunting an ag crop or orchard, just my opinion. A pile of food or a feeder dropping food at a set time is different than a large source that is available all the time.Well the only place I hunt where its legal is Ohio and I dont use it there because when I get there I dont have time to be putting bait out.But if it was legal here i would do it. I have stands that I have had in place for a few years now and I move a climber around alot but I feed deer at those stands with minerals and stuff during the off season but that doesnt mesn I didnt scout and work to hang them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I feel if it is legal and ethical than by all means do it.........that being said I do not bait for deer and never would. where I hunt I find it more interesting to scout for sign and figure out travel routes and staging areas than to dump a pile of corn or apples and sit over it til a yearling walks in to get shot.Not only do I believe it is possible to spread certain disease through concentrated feeding/baiting but i think it is detrimental to hunters as it causes most mature deer to go nocturnal.....................but to each his/her own.So just cuz someone hunts over bait that means they shoot yearlings?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisherfd2 Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 We can bait in NC. I have corn out as I write this. I will be putting more out tomorrow. I have a pretty small corner of the woods near my house that I have hunting access too. So, I have put bait out in hopes that the deer will see my corner of the woods as a place that has a good food supply. In addition, There are plenty of oak trees in this area of the woods. Our season starts Sept. 8 until Nov.5th I believe. Then Gun starts. I think that putting the corn down is getting the deer moving to a section of the woods that Later I will be hunting for them over Acorns. So I put out corn, What difference is there in putting a food source out. IMHO, This is similar to hunting a food plot, or setting up in the oaks when the acorns fall, or on the edge of the Orchard, or Still hunting a Corn field. You go were the deer are going to feed, or you put feed out where you can hunt. When I lived in MI, I had access to a fantastic set of farms with Corn, Soy Beans, Apple Orchard, Oak trees, Bedding areas streams. It was a deer heaven and I never needed bait. Deer were always moving to different food sources. kingfisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 We can bait in NC. I have corn out as I write this. I will be putting more out tomorrow. I have a pretty small corner of the woods near my house that I have hunting access too. So, I have put bait out in hopes that the deer will see my corner of the woods as a place that has a good food supply. In addition, There are plenty of oak trees in this area of the woods. Our season starts Sept. 8 until Nov.5th I believe. Then Gun starts. I think that putting the corn down is getting the deer moving to a section of the woods that Later I will be hunting for them over Acorns. So I put out corn, What difference is there in putting a food source out. IMHO, This is similar to hunting a food plot, or setting up in the oaks when the acorns fall, or on the edge of the Orchard, or Still hunting a Corn field. You go were the deer are going to feed, or you put feed out where you can hunt. When I lived in MI, I had access to a fantastic set of farms with Corn, Soy Beans, Apple Orchard, Oak trees, Bedding areas streams. It was a deer heaven and I never needed bait. Deer were always moving to different food sources. kingfisher I agree.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappenz Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I'm just too lazy to carry the bait to put it in a pile. You pretty much summed it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 You pretty much summed it up :D:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 What about salt and minerals? Do yall consider that to be bait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michihunter Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I think the answer to that would be: Only if your state feels that way!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Lol Good answere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 What about salt and minerals? Do yall consider that to be bait? Think that falls under supplements here in Tennessee. Minerals are legal here. I use them at one camera setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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