VermontHunter Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Numbers game ends: Junior out of the No. 8 Looks like Jr. won't have the #8 with him in 2008 ... Theresa just seems to want to play nothing but hardball all the way through this one.. Here's what Kelley E. Elledge said in a interview .. "Our hope was to carry the No. 8 with Dale Jr. to his new team, but the last proposal Hendrick Motorsports received from DEI just wasn't viable," said Kelley E. Elledge, vice president and general manager for JR Motorsports." Her's the full article .. http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/15/dearnhardtjr.number.change/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Do the number and sponsor really matter? I mean aside from people who bought a bunch of #8 stuff. Some drivers switch numbers several times in their careers and some keep a number throughout, but when it comes down to it, does it matter? I say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoytShooter8 Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I would just like to post my complete and total disgust of DEI. I would like from this point foward nothing but failure for this once great organization. Teresa Earnhardt has nothing but her own interest in mind, she seems to have no other concern but money, with no regard for her stepson. I for one am glad he is no longer part of this classless race team, say what you want about Rick Hendrick and his stable, but at least he supports his drivers and oh yeah they seem to win. May nothing but failure follow every where she turns, that greed lost her a future multiple time Nextel Cup Champion, I truely think we ain't seen nothing yet from ole Dale Jr. Whatever number he runs, at least it won't have any affiliation with DEI, I don't care what number he drives, he made a great decision to get out from under her rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COACH J. Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Glad to see him coming to the winning side:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Is anyone else not surprised that she's acting like this? I hope her knees grow together I hope Jr wins everything possible in the next couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Hunt Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 The kid needs a fersh start anyway. I think it will be for the best for JR.. Besides what would T-Rex have to offer another driver other than the #8. DEI is losing most of its fan base and she needs to keep the #8 to keep a few fans around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I wonder what he will get. I keep hearing #81, but that just doesn't have the right ring to it...Now if they could wrangle a deal for him to get the #18 and Kyle keep the 5.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ptbuckpa Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Is anyone else not surprised that she's acting like this? I hope her knees grow together It is not her that is saying no to the number it is the President of DEI I forget what his name is. She completly stepped out of any negotiations with JR. back in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 It is not her that is saying no to the number it is the President of DEI I forget what his name is. She completly stepped out of any negotiations with JR. back in March. WRONG !! Max tried to get the #8 deal done for Jr. but Teresa wanted future revenues from the #8, and Dale wasn't having any of that non sense... Here's a couple quotes from Dales interview... Teresa Earnhardt refused to give up control. Earnhardt Jr. said Saturday at Michigan International Speedway that his stepmother, who owns DEI, wanted a share of licensing revenues from the number. Earnhardt Jr. even offered to return the No. 8 to DEI after he retired from driving, but ultimately negotiations fell apart in an episode that further underscored the growing bitterness of the division between the driver and his father's widow. "I knew I wasn't going to get the number a long time ago, but you wait and wait and wait. Kelley is working, trying to talk to Max, and Max is trying to help. Max tried his butt off to try and make it work, to talk some sense into [Teresa]. But she either feels too personal about the number, or the rift between me and her is too personal. I can totally understand. If I were in her shoes, I would probably be inclined to keep the number myself. But I will say that Max tried really, really hard. We had a deal that if we did get the number, I'd get him a set of golf clubs made by adidas. Unfortunately, he won't be getting his clubs." http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/18/dearnhardtjr.number.8/index.html So YES Teresa has/had everything to do with this going south,,,even after the President of DEI (Max Siegel) tried everthing in his power to come to an agreement with dale Jr. and Hendrick. She's money digging in every corner she can .. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ptbuckpa Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 WRONG !! Max tried to get the #8 deal done for Jr. but Teresa wanted future revenues from the #8, and Dale wasn't having any of that non sense... Here's a couple quotes from Dales interview... http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/18/dearnhardtjr.number.8/index.html So YES Teresa has/had everything to do with this going south,,,even after the President of DEI (Max Siegel) tried everthing in his power to come to an agreement with dale Jr. and Hendrick. She's money digging in every corner she can .. IMHO Know I agree with you I hadn't read the new article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 The number really does not matter, his new number and sponsor will bring in millions upon millions in merchandise. In a way he can't be too upset, think of all the new stuff and what he and Hendrick will reap over this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I think its more that his grandfather used to drive the #8...I think thats the main reason why he wanted to keep the #. Rumor mill is stirring that the #27 is posible? I think we'll see him the 5 car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 If he does get a number in the 80's, i hope it will be 88. Knowing Jr though, he will come up with something good. He's got a pretty smart head on his shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I keep hearing, what's in the number ?? Well snapper hit on it directly.. Here's a excerpt from his interview with NASCAR writer David Caraviello .. But it also has a tie to Earnhardt Jr., one much deeper and more personal than the numeral on apparel worn by his fans. He chose the 8 because his grandfather Ralph raced it, because of its significance within the family history. And as for what number he will run next season,, he also addresses that as well. He says the #8 will be incorperated in his new number in some way shape or form .. He intimated Saturday that his new number at Hendrick will have an 8 somewhere in it. "Hold on. Hang tight," he said, when asked about all those fans with No. 8 tattoos. "I'm definitely going to look at some 80s and things like that. That's just common sense," he said. "I want a number that I'm going to like, and it's going to be a number I like and one I design. I'll design the shape and the look. It will be mine, and we'll build a new identity with that. Starting with such a clean page next year anyway, maybe it's for the best, sort of a lesson in disguise to make that clean break. http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/18/dearnhardtjr.number.8/index.html I'm not a Jr. fan by any means,,, but man why is Teresa being such a witch about things ??? It's not like she's going to benefit from the #8 without the endorsement of Jr. and his last name ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Luke, its all about the Benjamins! Money my friend with a touch of greed tossed in. You wanted some marketing and licensing money off that #8 and right now he leads all in sales. Huge money can be made off just merchandise. Simply put, she can make more money off him and his merchandise than her cars would make in race purses. Hard to believe but millions upon millions are made in merchandise and not from winning races!! Every see a race and the sea of red, well Teresa sees a see of green!! I am glad he is going to find a new one, let her choke on that #8!! (sorry Dale Sr. but your wife down here is not being a nice stepmother!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I hear ya Lou,,,, But that #8 aint going to be worth squat without Jr. and his name backing it... She has to know that ... :confused: Hendrick, made Jeff what he is today and if Jr. and his sister are willing to listen to his wisdom,,, Jr. will be on to bigger and greater things... and just maybe a few championships .. I see Teresa selling out in a couple years anyhow ... :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I hear ya Lou,,,, But that #8 aint going to be worth squat without Jr. and his name backing it... She has to know that ... :confused: Hendrick, made Jeff what he is today and if Jr. and his sister are willing to listen to his wisdom,,, Jr. will be on to bigger and greater things... and just maybe a few championships .. I see Teresa selling out in a couple years anyhow ... :rolleyes: thats exactly right luke. the number is worthless without jr. its not like someone is going to come and jump in the 8 car and get some of jr's fan base because it says 8 on the door:rolleyes: teresa is an idiot IMHO because now that number is worth about a buck. she could have got alot more for it if she would have just settled with jr. dei is going out of business i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Guys the only way that number can work is if, and hear me out, you put Tony Stewart in that car. If Gibbs goes Toyota and Tony doesn't want to follow that route, who knows, you might see old Smoke in that ride. I think the fans can accept Tony driving that number and face it, the #8 needs a well known, liked driver. If you put a loser driver in it you might as well shelf that number for now and give it back to Jr. down the road when he buys the company when it goes belly up!! The Tony thing could work, stranger things have happened in NASCAR...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Guys the only way that number can work is if, and hear me out, you put Tony Stewart in that car. If Gibbs goes Toyota and Tony doesn't want to follow that route, who knows, you might see old Smoke in that ride. I think the fans can accept Tony driving that number and face it, the #8 needs a well known, liked driver. If you put a loser driver in it you might as well shelf that number for now and give it back to Jr. down the road when he buys the company when it goes belly up!! The Tony thing could work, stranger things have happened in NASCAR...... i think the tony thing would work just as well in any other number though. its the name not the number that the fans follow. jr isn't losing his fans because he will have a new number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'm just saying if she keeps it and uses the #8 she better put a good shoe in the seat and not some loser!! Knowing her she probably will!! DEI needs something big to help it gain the attention it once had. Losing Jr. lost a fan base and granted they weren't on fire and winning at least they were considered a powerhouse team. I think Jr. sees what they are lacking and he sees Rick can offer that now. He wants to win and Hendrick will rally the other 3 cars around Jr. and make him a better racer and possible a champion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Sorry to say Lou, but that theroy you just laid out isn't going to pan out ... Here's what Max Seigel had to say about the future driver of the #8 ... and keep in mind he said in about a week, so that would disclude Tony Stewart from any equation.. Dale Earnhardt Jr. won't drive a No. 8 car, but someone at Dale Earnhardt Inc. will. The Nextel Cup organization hopes to have that matter settled in about a week, team president Max Siegel said Sunday. "We're trying to figure out who will fit into our driver lineup that will complement the entire team and where we want to go as a company," Siegel said at Michigan International Speedway, where the 3M Performance 400 was postponed by rain until Monday. "Right now, I want to put the most confident driver possible in the car." Whoever that is -- Siegel wouldn't say whether Mark Martin, currently driving part-time in a DEI car, is a possibility -- will face the unenviable task of succeeding NASCAR's most popular driver in a No. 8 vehicle that's become as synonymous with Earnhardt as his last name and ever-present scruff. Here's the whole story .. http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/19/dearnhardtjr.dei.8/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderpancake Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I think either Martin or Truex would fit fine in the car...I personally hope it's Truex-after all, he did win his 2 Busch championships in the #8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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