revhard Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Sory for not haveing pics .We didnt know we were gonna be doing the testing.But anyways... So we tested the penatration of a few broadheads on a piece of 3/8 plywood. Behind the plywood was a Block 4x4. For our test: Three Blade Rage Muzzy 4 Blade 100 Rocket Sidewinder 3 And another 3 Blade head of unknown origin! We shot them out of my Switchback 63# and 29'' draw at 20 yards. I shoot Easton epic 400's in case anyone wanted to know the arrow. So... We shot the Unknown head first, which blew through the plywood and got about 4'' in the block. Then we shot the Muzzys, which did he same bout got about 14'' into the block! After that we shot the Rockets, which didnt even get through plywood and the blades bent all to pieces. So then (what I was looking forward to) we shot the Rage Three Blades.... Hit the board with a big THWACK. The head got about half way through the plywood and thats it.. Two of the three blades broke completely, and the actual head itself chipped a big piece off of it. I was deffinatly let down with all the hype on these things. Just to let you Muzzy guys know, I took that Muzzy and shot it through the plywood about 5 more times, all with the same result. And it flew as true as the first time I shot it. Prior to this test I wasnt partial to any of these head over the others. I actually shot the Rockets the last two years. And was planning on shooting the Rage this year. But I will have to say that I will prolly be shooting the Muzzys after today...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerkillr777 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 well i am a muzzy man myself and hutn with my muzzys i love them i have the original 3 blad 100 grain and would trade it for no other head might have to try that soem day and see how it goes but i belive u guys 100% later nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIDeer4Life Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I wouldn't really compare a 3/8" piece of plywood to a deer but maybe thats just me. And yes I do understand that sometimes the shoulder is hit and more often than not ribs which I guess could be compared to something hard like plywood. Just because of this test I wouldnt count out the Rage completely. I've been shooting muzzys for a while now and decided to give the rage a shot this year. I Guess we'll see how it goes. I think i'll focus more on practicing and shot placement rather than relying on the broadhead though. I dont think you can really go wrong with the Muzzys...at least from my personal experience. Im sure ill be packing a few in my quiver this year along with the Rage 2 blade. Thanks for the post and the results! Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I've started shooting slick tricks. These things are awesome, you should give them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhard Posted August 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I mean i was comparing the plywood to a deer by no means, i was just looking at how well each broadhead held up in terms of strength. I will still give the old Rage two blades a try this year on a doe or something, but to me Muzzy just proved how tough a broadhead they can make... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 You compared a fixed head to a mechanical head ... sorry bud but this isn't a valid test imo ... I mean everyone knows that a fixed will go through the PW you could have shot 10 different Mech's at that plywood and I bet that every single one of them would have broke ... I have shot several deer with a Mech head and never had a problem with them not going all the way in ... bone or no bone ... to bad you didnt have pictures to show how badly the Muzzy blades looked after going through that plywood ... I know for a fact that they are all tore up ... which leaves the blades worthless ... Rage and Rocket both make a fantastic broadhead as well as Muzzy ... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Jdawg1268 said: I've started shooting slick tricks. These things are awesome, you should give them a try. I'm shooting Slick Tricks as well this year. I shot them yesterday and they fly awesome! My Bowtech is cranking them out there at 310 fps. I shot Muzzy's for 17 years but they couldn't handle that speed. I shot Rage 2 blades last season and they worked well on a doe in KY. I can't wait to run a Slick Trick through a deer to see how they do. I think they will be as good or better than the Muzzy's. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shtr Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Muzzy heads are just plain tough but if shooting the toughest head is your first priority then get the trophy ridge bunker buster or Germany Kinetics Silver flame. There are none stronger for thier designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 revhard said: I mean i was comparing the plywood to a deer by no means, i was just looking at how well each broadhead held up in terms of strength. I will still give the old Rage two blades a try this year on a doe or something, but to me Muzzy just proved how tough a broadhead they can make... 100% true. Muzzy isn't fancy. Everyone knows you can spend 5X the price of Muzzy but for the money you cant do much better. Great, great heads. Deadly stout and deadly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I wish you had a wasp sst to compare with the muzzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureshot Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I have shot thunderheads for years, never had a problem, my buddy shoots muzzies and love them, he used to shoot a expandable and had nothing but problems his turning point was a deer shot on a angle and it cought only one lung, it was stuck in the other shoulder,shattered to pieces!the looking at the entrance, only one blade opened and once it hit a rib it just broke, so all the penetrated the lung was the tip, we tracked him with the odd drop of blood for 4 hours till I put a finishing shot in him!I HATE all expandable, maybe just me but once I see a animal suffer becouse of a broadhead I will never shoot one again!!sure he hit it on a angle but any muzzy or thunderhead would of put him down soon with one lung, but with a filed point and no cutting they will not bleed out for ever! BTW va buck, my buddies mathews was cronographed at 305 today shoots muzzies awsome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 i also shoot Muzzys and have known for a long time they are one tough head. i never shot through plywood on purpose though. but i know what they did to my bear i shot in canada a few years back. the broadhead penetrated the spine and blew through the off side shoulder bone. thats bad to the bone in my book. yea yea i know its was a high shot, but i was kinda excited. the deer i have shot always end up with broken ribs and complete penetration. there are also many other great broadheads that will do a fine job. but since Muzzys are 30 bucks for 6, easy to change blades, readily available just about anywhere, tough as nails and fly great out of my setup.. thats why i shoot them. since i have found what i consider the best arrow and broadhead for my setup that gets the best accuracy for me i wont be switching, until something makes me determine i should switch. Shoot Strong Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shtr Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 BowtechTurkeyHunter said: You compared a fixed head to a mechanical head ... sorry bud but this isn't a valid test imo ... I mean everyone knows that a fixed will go through the PW you could have shot 10 different Mech's at that plywood and I bet that every single one of them would have broke Steve Actually.....I shoot test heads through 1" sections of poplar and have had very few mechanicals break during this test. On the other hand ..... I have had a truck load of fixed heads blow apart in the same tests. This is on a 4/1 ratio of testing with fixed heads being tested at 4X's the rate of expandables. Just wanted to clear up this misconception of mechanical heads being weaker by design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shtr Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 sureshot said: I have shot thunderheads for years, never had a problem, my buddy shoots muzzies and love them, he used to shoot a expandable and had nothing but problems his turning point was a deer shot on a angle and it cought only one lung, it was stuck in the other shoulder,shattered to pieces!the looking at the entrance, only one blade opened and once it hit a rib it just broke, so all the penetrated the lung was the tip, we tracked him with the odd drop of blood for 4 hours till I put a finishing shot in him!I HATE all expandable, maybe just me but once I see a animal suffer becouse of a broadhead I will never shoot one again!!sure he hit it on a angle but any muzzy or thunderhead would of put him down soon with one lung, but with a filed point and no cutting they will not bleed out for ever! BTW va buck, my buddies mathews was cronographed at 305 today shoots muzzies awsome! I would suggest that it was the particular expandable There are expandables out there which I wouldn't small game hunt with and some are huge names. But.... There are expandables out there that flat out are superior to a large number of conventional heads. Broad brush ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revhard Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 BowtechTurkeyHunter said: You compared a fixed head to a mechanical head ... sorry bud but this isn't a valid test imo... to bad you didnt have pictures to show how badly the Muzzy blades looked after going through that plywood ... I know for a fact that they are all tore up ... which leaves the blades worthless Well, a broadhead is a broadhead, and thay are marketed as the best, not the best mechanical, or the best fixed blade head. So I think it was a very good test. Im sure thee is one person on here at least that is shooting Muzzys, and is thinking of shooting Rage's.. So IMO... I just did that person a favor.... And for your info, that muzzy is in GREAT shape, and flies as true as can be evey time. And are not worthless, but what is worthless, is the bleades on BOTH mechanical heads.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest john9 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 I did some testing today myself. I was planning on using Rage 3 blades until today. I have read many reports that they do not open on impact, so I had to see for myself. Shooting into a piece of card board over the vital zone of my Delta buck, I found the blades do not open. This was not the head that was recalled. I shot 3 times, 1st shot with a brand new head, no blades opened, on impact or exit. Next 2 shots, only had 1 and 1 and 1/2 blades open. I did not want to believe the reports, but I confirmed it, the rage 3 blade does not work. Then I tried a Muzzy 4 blade, it shot the same as my field point with no meaningful difference. Perfect 1 inch X cut every time. My search is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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