str8shooter48 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Seems like Kyle Busch let the cat out of the bag saying Gibbs Racing is switching to Toyota next year. I think its a shame. I hope I can root my boy Tony into another championship this year in a Chevy. Because next year if he's driving a Toyota the old razor blade scraper come out and the # 20 Home Depot sticker comes off the the back window of my truck real fast. From Pontiac to Chevy I had no problem, but Toyota. No Way!! http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/08/31/kybusch.dhamlin.tstewart.gibbs.toyota/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerslayer79 Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Coulda knocked me over with a feather,I can see this evolving into something very interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Tony will retire and race dirt late models full time. I don't know if it is true, but it is what I'm guessing/hoping. He's said he'd retire several times already and seems tired of the politics crap. He's also said there are a lot of dirt races he wants to win, including the Knoxville Late Model Nationals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8shooter48 Posted September 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Tony will retire and race dirt late models full time. I don't know if it is true, but it is what I'm guessing/hoping. He's said he'd retire several times already and seems tired of the politics crap. He's also said there are a lot of dirt races he wants to win, including the Knoxville Late Model Nationals. I hope thats the case I'd rather see him racing Go-Carts than Toyotas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 I just don't understand this hatred of Toyota .. :confused: They've been on the racing scene way longer than Ford, Dodge or Chevy ... :confused: And now considering it's the only manufacture out there that's true American built .. Guess we are all entitled to our opinions .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 I just don't understand this hatred of Toyota .. :confused: I Live in America, I'm a redneck, I hunt deer, and work for General Motors......Need I say anymore? All my Joe Gibbs autographed pictures WILL FOR SURE be coming off the wall and going in the closet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 But Nick we already covered this once before,,, that Chevy you are driving isn't 100 % American... and neither is the company of GM ... so what are you going to do,, quit your job ?? .. :confused: Now Toyota on the other hand is 100% American ... Now the redneck part I can understand ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8shooter48 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 But Nick we already covered this once before,,, that Chevy you are driving isn't 100 % American... and neither is the company of GM ... so what are you going to do,, quit your job ?? .. :confused: Now Toyota on the other hand is 100% American ... Now the redneck part I can understand ... Now as far as Toyota being 100% American. Not true. Read the page below right off Toyotas website. At Toyota, we view building vehicles as a community project. We invite you to learn about where the thousands of Americans who make up Toyota live and work. Not only the individuals who sell Toyota and Lexus vehicles, but those who design, test, and manufacture our vehicles and components using many U.S. sourced parts. http://www.toyota.com/about/operations/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_ABOUT_OPERATIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Now as far as Toyota being 100% American. Not true. Read the page below right off Toyotas website. At Toyota, we view building vehicles as a community project. We invite you to learn about where the thousands of Americans who make up Toyota live and work. Not only the individuals who sell Toyota and Lexus vehicles, but those who design, test, and manufacture our vehicles and components using many U.S. sourced parts. http://www.toyota.com/about/operations/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_ABOUT_OPERATIONS My friend the Camery and Tohcoma are 100% manufactured and assembled in the United States..(Mississippi) ;) These are the only 2 vehicles out there that are ... ;) It may be foriegn based but this Toyota plant is 100% operated by Americans .. What you have copy and pasted came from thier world base website .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8shooter48 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 My friend the Camery and Tohcoma are 100% manufactured and assembled in the United States..(Mississippi) ;) These are the only 2 vehicles out there that are ... ;) It may be foriegn based but this Toyota plant is 100% operated by Americans .. What you have copy and pasted came from thier world base website .. Now if you can read better than you can spell. Camery (CAMRY) and Tohcoma (TACOMA). Check out the website below and check out what it says. Thats the site I got my information from. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS223US223&q=toyota+usa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Now if you can read better than you can spell. Camery (CAMRY) and Tohcoma (TACOMA). Check out the website below and check out what it says. Thats the site I got my information from. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS223US223&q=toyota+usa Hey,, if you're going to insult someone on their spelling atleast know how to link a website... all I get is a google search page .. :p:D A little light reading for ya .. http://www.autobytel.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_page_order_int/2/article_id_int/1153 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6247479.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8shooter48 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Hey,, if you're going to insult someone on their spelling atleast know how to link a website... all I get is a google search page .. :p:D A little light reading for ya .. http://www.autobytel.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_page_order_int/2/article_id_int/1153 Sorry for getting on you about the spelling. I read your site there and it tells me what I already know. I know they are assembled in the USA. The Toyota website states that they are assembled using many US made parts. That to me does not constitute a 100% US built automobile. Granted GM Ford And Chrysler are buying parts offshore. Thats a shame too. Globalization of the industry. I shouldn't say is the problem, but its the only way to survive. Maybe its not such a bad thing giving Toyota more exposure like Nascar. Get more of them on the road and have all their devoted followers see that these new American Made Toyotas are no better than GM, Ford or Chrysler. They are machines assembled by the American Auto Workers (humans). When one of the big 3 have a recall its plastered all over the newspaper. When Toyota has one it gets a little section in the corner. The media has been pumping up these Japanese cars for years, lets get them on the road and let them burst their own bubbles. Oh by the way the Google search page was not a mistake . It never dawn on me that the link would not be highlighted on your computer my mistake. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 NO worries.. we are good ;) The only point I was trying to drive is that if someone is going to trash Toyota for not being American ,, they just can't stop there because NONE of the so called big three are either .. ;) If you really want to get down to it the Toyota's are more American that the BIG 3 .. sorry to say.. And I drive a Chevy ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8shooter48 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Granted Toyotas are made here but their headquarters is still in Japan. My gripe is their profits head back to Japan. I know too well about foriegn components in American Cars. I've worked for GM for over 35 years. I've seen the evolution of foreign made components coming into the plant. Believe me I don't like it but, what am I going to do about it. Seems like the whole auto industry took a dump when the bean counters took over the corporations from Manufacturing and Engineering people. Now the biggest concern is the bottom line. Profits!!! I own 3 Pontiacs and a GMC right now. I plan on buying a new Pontiac Torrent GXP when the new model comes out. Why haven't I bought a Torrent already? Easy to answer I refuse to buy a vehichle with an engine built in China. Not because its a bad engine, because that engine used to be made at the plant I work at. The motor that replaced it was suppose to the motor used in the Equinox and Torrent. Guess what the bean counters got their way and that went by the wayside. I guess the bottom line buy and like what you want. They are all in cahoots with one another. Globalization and joint ventures who knows half the parts in a Toyota could be GM and vice-versa. Remember the Corolla/Geo Prism. Geo Trackers/Suzuki Samurai early stages of joint ventures and you'll probably see more in the future. I don't hold a grudge against anybody for they drive. but I had a neighbor flaunting his two new Toyotas a couple months ago. "He said your a car guy how come you haven't come over to see my new cars?" I said "because they're Toyotas". By the way we still talk to one another I just had to make my point. The part that makes me feel good is he has had a loaner in his driveway several times while his Toyotas were in the shop. He! He! He! By the way how do i get the smileys come up in my posts they haven't worked in a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'll have to find that article again on the Kentucky and Mississippi profits and where they go...you may be suprised.. I understand that this is still a foreign company but they do spend billions in the US .. But that same profit theory you have stated can be aimed right at the same manufactures that are suppose to be AMERICAN manufactures..with FORD being the biggest offender, spending most of their profits in Mexico... A little side note hear,, the BIG 3 have been colaberating with foreign manufactures for decades... Example.. Chevy with Toyota Ford with Mazda Chrysler with Mitsubishi and so on.... I don't think anyone can say I drive only AMERICAN, because I truely don't think one exists.. As for the Smiley's.. You need to go into the USER CP and turn on the WYSIWYG mode .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Luke, if you drive a Chevy why do you insist on arguing and sticking up for toyota? If you like them so much and they are so much more American....sell the Chevy and go and buy one. As for GM not being 100% American....I know...I never said they were. BUT, all the profits from GM stays in the states. And my job relies on GM vehicles being sold. I make parts for GM, not toyota. If people are buying toyotas instead of Chevys, then theres no need for me to make parts...and if theres no need for me to make parts, then theres no need for me to go to work. So I get laid off and have to find another job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 BUT, all the profits from GM stays in the states. I've never seen any proof of that in recent years.. You have access to GM's finacials and quarterly's.. And why is it most everything GM is farmed out of the country..??.. I make parts for GM, not toyota. You make parts for GM because regardless where the vehicle is made it will need replacement/new parts.. Nick, you have a job because there is a need for replacements/new parts for the vehicles being made.. believe me GM could care less about you or your position .. As for your nasties I can do without them, and your bias hatred for Toyota can stay on the side lines as far as I'm concerned.. I've been nothing but respectful towards you and most of your comments,, so I don't deserve your 20 yr. old, no nothing attitude..:rolleyes: And I do own a Toyota and have owned a few of them over the years.. So see I do back up what I believe in... and YES it was built right here in the good OLD USA.. Nick, you really need to accept that the auto industry isn't all 100% American any longer.. Cheer up it isn't all bad . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8shooter48 Posted September 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 I'll have to find that article again on the Kentucky and Mississippi profits and where they go...you may be suprised.. I understand that this is still a foreign company but they do spend billions in the US .. But that same profit theory you have stated can be aimed right at the same manufactures that are suppose to be AMERICAN manufactures..with FORD being the biggest offender, spending most of their profits in Mexico... A little side note hear,, the BIG 3 have been colaberating with foreign manufactures for decades... Example.. Chevy with Toyota Ford with Mazda Chrysler with Mitsubishi and so on.... I don't think anyone can say I drive only AMERICAN, because I truely don't think one exists.. As for the Smiley's.. You need to go into the USER CP and turn on the WYSIWYG mode .. Thank You sir I turned on the WYSIWYG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoppeMan Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 What?!?! This is...is...just dumb! Who would want to switch to Toyota?! I hope Tony switches to another team, I can't root for number 20 when number 20 is a Toyota Take care, Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 What?!?! This is...is...just dumb! Who would want to switch to Toyota?! I hope Tony switches to another team, I can't root for number 20 when number 20 is a Toyota Take care, Nathan My friend read the article,,, Tony isn't going anywhere.. http://www.realtree.com/forums/showthread.php?p=757855#post757855 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoppeMan Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 My friend read the article,,, Tony isn't going anywhere.. http://www.realtree.com/forums/showthread.php?p=757855#post757855 I think I'm afraid to! This is aweful! It's like someone cut off my right arm!! Take care, Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 You dont have to understand my hatred for Toyota. I live in Michigan and work for Chrysler. Middle class America was built by the UAW and the big 3. If it wasnt for the unions alot of people wouldnt be making the kind of money they are making whether they work for the union or not. And that is the truth! We will see how good a product Toyota is putting out when they are paying the same amount to retirees as that of Ford, GM, or Chrysler. You can drive what you want but you cant park it in my driveway!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 You can drive what you want but you cant park it in my driveway!!! You might want to move that Mitsubishi out of your driveway then ... :D ...LOL Anyhow, back to the topic,, I think Gibbs will have a learning curve for a bit... but think they will have a better go at it that MWR ,, Gibbs has the resources and the drivers to put into this venture .. JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I make parts for GM, not toyota. Oh really????? What parts are on my wife's Pontiac Vibe...GM or Toyota???? Look, we've been down this road before...its not americans fault that Toyota is here. It the money hungry CEO's and Stock holders at GM's fault. They want their hand in the cookie bag...but don't want it to hurt "GM's" sales! The other two are just as bad! The old Camry we used to own (just bought something newer) was still running strong. Had FAR less problems with it than all my "American" made Chevy's. So I get laid off and have to find another job. Nick...do you think of that when you buy everyday things? Do you think about the American worker who may or may not lose their job because of something you bought? Its part of life...period. If GM (and the other 2) make good quailty products at a competive cost...they won't be hurting in sales...it will take care of itself. And Tony will be in the Toyota because he's under contract with Gibbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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