buckbuster11 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Until he becomes the latest to get nailed with roids. We can officially trust no one in MLB anymore. Here is a little piece of an article from ESPN. The New York Daily News reported Friday that Ankiel received a 12-month supply of human growth hormone in 2004 from a Florida pharmacy that was part of a national illegal prescription drug-distribution operation, citing records its reporters saw. That Orlando outfit, Signature Pharmacy, has been implicated in a steroids investigation run by Albany County (N.Y.) District Attorney P. David Soares, which has resulted in 22 indictments and several Florida clinic raids. Ankiel's HGH prescriptions, including Saizen and Genotropin, were signed by Florida physician William Gogan, who provided them through a Palm Beach Gardens clinic called The Health and Rejuvenation Center, or THARC, the newspaper reported. The drugs were shipped to the 28-year-old Ankiel at the clinic's address, the paper said. The pitcher-turned-outfielder lives close by in Jupiter. Here is another little piece from Buster Olney. A very interesting read I thought. It feels like we have been transported in time, and it is the summer of 1998 all over again. A St. Louis slugger is doing astonishing things, except this time it's Rick Ankiel, and not Mark McGwire, and if you were to project his work of 26 games over a full season, he would be approaching what Roger Maris did; Ankiel would be on a pace to hit 56 homers. In the midst of 1998, Associated Press reporter Steve Wilstein observed that McGwire had a bottle of androstenedione in his locker, not proof that McGwire used steroids but eye-raising stuff. And now T.J. Quinn and three other New York Daily News reporters have a story that a year's supply of human growth hormone was delivered to Ankiel three years ago, not quite a smoking gun, but something close to it. Here's another way it's like 1998 all over again: There are whispers all over the place in baseball that the use of performance-enhancing drugs is growing rapidly. Back then it was steroids, and now it's HGH. Scouts who watch the players daily say the bodies of some players are inexplicably increasing in size, again; team executives are privately fretting about whether to invest in players they think might be using; and players quietly speak of the quandary they face -- take the stuff and keep up with some other players, or don't take the stuff and face a competitive disadvantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 YES I AM BIAS CAUSE I AM A CARDINAL FAN In his defense he was using it when it was legal and he stopped receiving HGH just before Major League Baseball officially banned it in 2005 Its becoming more and more obvious about EVERY baseball player was using something at one time or another. :mad:maybe not so much now but a few years ago is another story....:rolleyes: Its really sounds like they all thought or used the idea of everyone else is doing it so we might as well too. Now its coming back to bitting them ALL in the butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Its becoming more and more obvious about EVERY baseball player was using something at one time or another. This coming from the guy who routinely called me out for thinking everyone in MLB was using at some point in time. btw- this is still a good story. I'm not letting the media ruin this one either. When a guys on top, all those vultures look to do is tear him down. Not fair. The guy can rake, that's all there is to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 This coming from the guy who routinely called me out for thinking everyone in MLB was using at some point in time. NO NO I called you out on stating EVERY MLB player except for your selected Indian players cause they are just country strong. Jeez come on Muggs.:rolleyes::p:D:D The story is still good. He had a great game yesterday 3-4 with 7 RBI. He has 27 RBI's in 23 games. He is swinging a hot stick right now.:cool::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitteken Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Bottom line the guy is an amazing athelete, and a great comeback story. There is no hard evidence that he broke any rules so give him the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaret Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Bottom line the guy is an amazing athelete, and a great comeback story. There is no hard evidence that he broke any rules so give him the benefit of the doubt. Yeah I agree. He stopped using them when they became illegal. Least he stopped it and didn't continue with it and hide it from everyone. So maybe him hitting the home runs and RBI's are just him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 There is no hard evidence that he broke any rules so give him the benefit of the doubt. He has admitted that he took them. How much more evidence do you need? Kind of funny you guys take this stance with Ankiel but throw Barry Bonds under the bus. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Kind of funny you guys take this stance with Ankiel but throw Barry Bonds under the bus. Why? A few facts that were left out of the original post. At the time Ankiel was taking HGH they were legal, not banned by MLB, legally prescribed, legally purchased and being taken to help speed his recovery from "Tommy John" surgery. It's not like Rick suddenly packed on 30 lbs. of muscle and his head started looking like a Pumpkin, ala Barry. Though it is now banned by MLB, there isn't even a reliable test for the presence of HGH, so the current ban is a joke at best. Rick was hitting 450 foot home runs while still in High School, so his power with a bat is hardly new. Funny how the people who get the most upset about a story like this don't care enough to get the real story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 What facts were left out of the original post? He received the drugs from a national illegal prescription drug distributing ring. The key word being "illegal". Meaing the prescriptions were obtained illegally. That's nice he was hitting 450 foot bombs in high school. So was Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds. Does that mean we sholdn't care if they took steroids too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Johh, it's sorta hard to get up in arms about 2005, ya know. Heck, if he's an NFL safety, he's out 4 games and can still make the Pro Bowl ala Merriman... I really don't understand this whole new investgation either. All we keep seeing is "Jay Gibbons received illegal HGH in 2005." Really? Wow. The media is almost childish in their attempt to make this a huge issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 What facts were left out of the original post? He received the drugs from a national illegal prescription drug distributing ring. The key word being "illegal". Meaing the prescriptions were obtained illegally. That's nice he was hitting 450 foot bombs in high school. So was Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds. Does that mean we sholdn't care if they took steroids too? Personally, i don't care who did what, afterall, it's just a game According to the link in your original post "authorities have not accused Ankiel of any wrongdoing", so unless you think he worked for the distributor in question, i'm not clear on what it is that he has done wrong. He apparently didn't violate any laws or MLB rules, so until such time as has been proved otherwise, i'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 The media needs something to talk about and anything to do with steroids in MLB give them another week to do their job. It's ashame they're trying to bring this guy down! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Johh, it's sorta hard to get up in arms about 2005, ya know. Not to pick on you, because a number of people have mentioned it, but why is what he did in 2005 OK, but what Bonds did (or didn't do), McGwire, Sosa and all the others are accused of doing at or before 2005 not OK? Seems to me if we bash one for doing it, they all should get the same treatment. This guy is a feel good story, but if he got here by steroids, does he really still feel all that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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