Out of velvet, still think he's a shooter?


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I agree with a couple of you. I think this deer is a 4 yr old maybe older. And he would be tough to pass but that is the difference in killing nice deer and big deer. You can't kill a big one if you kill a nice one. I'm trying to make that next step.

Oneida man, I think a blocky face with a short nose is the sign of a mature buck not an immature one. If you look at the smaller buck in the one picture his nose appears much longer. That is b/c he is a 2 yr old and his face (and the rest of his body) hasn't filled out. Agree?

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If you look at the smaller buck in the one picture his nose appears much longer. That is b/c he is a 2 yr old and his face (and the rest of his body) hasn't filled out. Agree?

I would tend to agree with that too. The bigger deer is without any doubt older than the smaller one, and can see where the nose appears narrower, not necessarily longer, on the younger deer and more blocky on the older more mature deer.

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I would agree he is an older deer.

BUt seeing the pics of deer you have already posted and knowing what else is around you I might have to pass.

Now after gun season and you still have 2 tags in your pocket, then I would let him have it. But before the rut kicks in and gun season I would probably pass. I hopes for something bigger.

Goodluck either way. :)

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No way!! a short nose is a younger deer...a long ROMAN nose is a mature deer..our young bucks here always are short in the muzzel and when they mature the nose gets longer and start to show gray..also the measurement from eye to nose typically increases as they get older..look at the big mature bucks heads..they look like a horse head

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No way!! a short nose is a younger deer...a long ROMAN nose is a mature deer..our young bucks here always are short in the muzzel and when they mature the nose gets longer and start to show gray..also the measurement from eye to nose typically increases as they get older..look at the big mature bucks heads..they look like a horse head

I thought the nose was shorter on mature bucks? I'm pretty sure they are. As far as the deer, he looks to be mature. Definitely a shooter for me with a bow. Would depend on situation with rifle, but i dont think he's gonna get much bigger.

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The actual nose is not shorter on mature deer. They just look that way due to the blocky appearance of a more mature deers face. It is more filled out and the nose is fatter which makes the nose appear shorter. If you look at pictures of does they "appear" to have the longest noses of any deer because they are much skinnier. That is my opinion. Oneida man and I will have to agree to disagree.

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I'd say he's an older deer too. His nose only looks shorter because his head is built like a block :D

His whole body is built like an older deer, neck and all. ;)

I'd say 4 1/2 at least:p:)

I'd say he's an excellent buck to take now, unless you have another one in mind ;)

Send his teeth away to get aged. I got $50 says he's at least 4 1/2 :D (wagers ?? :D)

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