Guest wasp Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Does anyone own or have shot the triumph ? I was wondering how does the accuracy compare to the omega. And what about the finger removeable breech plug. Just wondering I like the looks of the new triumph but the omega has been proven. thanks wasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 We have one on its way, I will be sure to let you know when we shoot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 WOW Does anyone own or have shot the triumph ? I was wondering how does the accuracy compare to the omega. And what about the finger removeable breech plug. Just wondering I like the looks of the new triumph but the omega has been proven. thanks wasp The only word that comes to mind was WOW, my buddy just brought his new gun out to shoot yesterday. from the time i pulled the trigger to the time i reloaded after cleaning?? 2 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!! the breech plug comes right out with little or no effort, the gun is super light, shoulders very nice and looks great to. We shot 295grain power belts, 270grain plat. power belts and some 245grain barnes sabots shooting 100 grains of 777 the gun only took about 8 rounds to be sighted in 2" high at 100 yards we never pushed the distance back, but did do some shooting with 150 grains. All i can say is order mine now and hope it gets here quick enough......I have never seen anything like it, and after playing around yesterday i dont ever want to look at another breach plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wasp Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 150 gr. What kind of accuracy did you get when you shot 150 grains ? I assume you are shooting 777 pellets? Would really like to hear. Thanks Wasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I got to play with one at Dick's the other day. It was very light, well balanced and shouldered nicely. Definately a well made gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 What kind of accuracy did you get when you shot 150 grains ? I assume you are shooting 777 pellets? Would really like to hear. Thanks Wasp The gun liked the heavy power belts the best (295grain) and when we got it zeroed it was shooting 1" groups easy. i didnt have a caliper with me but i could touch all three holes with my thumb. nice little clover leaf. and yes we where shooting the triple seven pellets. This was the first time i used 777 and was impressed with how much cleaner it burned than pyrodex. hope this helps.....i really think this may be the best muzzleloader ive ever had my hands on. Im sure some people will think im blowing smoke but i was that impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCFORLIFE Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Anybody have the omega and the triumph? I have not checked out the triumph yet. Just wondering if it would worth upgrading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I sure am going to check one when it hits are stores, I sure like the lb.s that you have talked about.Lagging around carrying my Encore ,it feels like it 50 lb's after a day in the woods. too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoss Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 This was the first time i used 777 and was impressed with how much cleaner it burned than pyrodex. You got that right I made the move to 777 from Pyro many years now and NO comparison what so every 777 hands down ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tped Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I too love the 777. I have the encore and the omega and both are super guns. I have twice looked at the triumph and like the weight and feel and is a nice looking gun for my taste. Price was not bad in the $450 range for the stainless model. I love that new breech plug - really easy to get in and out or should that be out then in - my omega shoots fantastic and is my go to muzzleloader at the moment. If I were to buy another the Triumph would be at the top of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Cornfed Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Hi, I'm new to the forum but I did buy a new Triumph so I thought I'd share my thoughts about it. I went from shooting a TC Thunder Hawk to the new Triumph this year. I didn't have a lot of extra time or money to try out a bunch of different loads so I went with the TC Shock Wave in 250 gr. (They put a small pack of like 5 of these in with the gun, so I just bought more of the same) It's my first experience with sabots and they load hard. Seems a tad more troublesome to clean between each shot and all too. With the Thunder Hawk I was using TC Maxi Balls and it was no big thing. But I got the Triumph shooting pretty good using 100 grains of Pyrodex. I put a 2x7 Nikon scope on it and went with medium mounts to keep it a more natural feel during mounting the gun. If I had to make any suggestions to TC it would be to offer the adjustable hammer spur on the Triumph like is on the Pro Hunter (with medium mounts it's kind of a tight fit between your thumb and the scope) also when wearing fleece gloves the absence of any checkering at the pistol grip area makes it slippery. I have a lot to learn about this gun yet, but overall I like it pretty good. Killed a 9-pt buck last night at about 60 yards. He ran about 20-30 yards and tipped over for good. Anyway, just thought I'd share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Welcome to Realtree, and good report on your new gun. too_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoss Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Mine comes in the mail tomorrow, I won it in the Knocked and Loaded contest, I hope to play with it on the weekend and will see how it compares to my Encore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Cornfed Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thanks for the welcome. I've been reading the various posts wherever I can find them concerning what powder/charge/bullet combination to use. Because the Shock Waves I have are so tough to load, I'm kinda tempted to try out the Powerbelts. I read somewhere (might have even have been this forum) that the lead Powerbelts tend to fragment if pushed too fast, so I'm thinking about trying out the PB Platinum. If they load easier that'd make shooting the Triumph a whole lot more fun for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superguide Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Powerbelts have worked well for Ty in his Omega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Cornfed Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I hesitate to resurrect this old thread, but I just finished another successful early M/L season and while searching the net for info on the Triumph this popped up. Hard to think 4 years have passed! Anyway, I imagine by now most folks using the Triumph have learned the best bullet/sabot/powder combos for them but I thought I'd share what I finally settled on. Because the T/C bores tend to be a tad tighter than a lot, I wound up using the crushed ribbed sabot from Harvester Muzzleloading which makes for WAY easier loading. This year (and last) I used a Barnes Expander 300 gr which is just probably overkill. I use them because I have them and they group real good. I used 250 gr 3 years ago and actually think I'll go back to them for next year but figured I may as well use up these 300 gr first. I also changed over to Blackhorn 209 powder. I'm using 110 gr and I also use a CCI 209M primer. This combination allows multiple shots before swabbing - in fact I never do during sight-in, generally just clean it once the session is over. And there is really no noticeable difference in effort from load 1 to say 15 that I can detect. I just re-load and shoot until I'm done. While sitting on stand with my fleece gloves on yesterday I still wished my Triumph had some type of checkering on the pistol grip and forearm because it is SO slick, but all in all I am just very glad I bought this gun. One other thing I should note; while sighting in I had a couple times where the primer went bang but the powder did not. I knew it had to be the flash channel being fouled. I pulled the breech plug and took an 1/8th inch drill bit in my fingers and reamed the channel over and over again. Each time I was amazed that primer residue kept coming out. In the future I'll do this more frequently than every four years! Anyway, that's where I'm at now and I just thought I'd make an updated post reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 That sounds pretty good. I've decided to shoot Blackhorn 209 after my current supply runs out. I talked to Don Luhr with Western Powders and he said it's very important to keep that plug cleaned out using that size drill bit and the flash hole with a torch tip cleaner. Maintains consistent ignition and accuracy. He also said they've had the best results with the CCI 209M primers. So it should like you're right on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinsonovagun Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I have the Bone Collector edition and couldn't get good groups at all. I started out with Hornady sabots with BH209 powder, then Powerbelts, then Barnes (all 250 gr). Tried some White Hots pellets. Finally, I tried 100 grains of Pyrodex pellets with the Hornady sabots and got a 1'-1.5" group. I left it at that for now. Next year I'll maybe try out some different loads. Sounds like I need to switch to CCI primers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Cornfed Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Before I went to the Barnes Expanders and the Blackhorn 209 I was using Pyrodex loose powder and the T/C Shockwaves. I thought they were accurate as can be, but I was getting complete pass-through with real small entrance and exit holes. The deer would be dead, but I might have to track him 200 yards. I don't know if I was pushing the bullet too hard or what, but I just thought I needed something with a really big hole in the front so the Barnes fit that bill. I don't know for certain what the difference is, but for the last three years I've had virtually no tracking jobs. (That is a huge benefit to me when I shoot one in the evening) One other thing on Blackhorn 209, I've heard more than one that BH209 likes to be really compacted so even though I generally do that anyway I'm more aware of it or at least try to be sure I pack it in there real good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntinsonovagun Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Good info cornfed. I'll be sure to put that bullet in the shoulder, at least for this year until I come across a hollowpoint that flies good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Cornfed Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Yeah, the first deer I killed with my Triumph using the Shockwaves was kind of a normal deal, it went down fairly quickly but a couple after that I had the small in and out hole so I thought I'd go a different direction. But I'm pretty sure with the accuracy you described with the load you're using you won't have any issues at all. Good luck!! (BTW, I killed a 10-pt Monday evening at about 60 yards quartering away. Hit him a little farther back than I wanted to, and he didn't react at all. I began to wonder if I just missed. The doe went about 10 feet and the Buck just stood there and looked to the South on high alert for a few seconds, then he took about three steps and I saw him wobble. He laid down right there and in about 10 seconds he put his head down and was done. Kind of an odd.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 last buck i shot with hornady 250gr sst didn't have a blood trail. it was a pass through shot hitting at least one lung and heart. also have heard that with the shockwaves and others. on a good day i'll shoot one hole groups though, so i still use them and make a good shot for a quick tracking job. a bit odd when it happens like that, not sure if it's just a muzzleloader thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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