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Ephesians 2:8

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9- not by works, so that no one can boast.

I think this one pretty much covers it, but I gave a couple more examples.

Acts 15:11

No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

Romans 1:5

Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.

Romans 3:24

and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Romans 5:2

through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:5

made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.

2 Timothy 1:9

who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

Titus 2:11

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.

Titus 3:7

so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

Matthew 9:2

Some men brought to him a paralytic, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven."

Matthew 9:22

Jesus turned and saw her. "Take heart, daughter," he said, "your faith has healed you." And the woman was healed from that moment.

Matthew 9:29

Then he touched their eyes and said, "According to your faith will it be done to you";

Matthew 15:28

Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

Mark 2:5

When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven."

Mark 5:34

He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace and be freed from your suffering."

Mark 10:52

"Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.

Luke 5:20

When Jesus saw their faith, he said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven."

Luke 7:50

Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

Luke 8:48

Then he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace."

Luke 17:19

Then he said to him, "Rise and go; your faith has made you well."

Luke 18:42

Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you."

Acts 15:9

He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.

Acts 20:21

I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus

Acts 26:18

to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.'

Romans 1:5

Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.

Romans 1:17

For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."

Romans 3:22

This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference

Romans 3:25

God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

Romans 3:24-26 (in Context) Romans 3 (Whole Chapter)

Romans 3:26

he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

Romans 3:27

Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith.

Romans 3:28

For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.

Romans 3:30

since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.

Romans 5:1

[ Peace and Joy ] Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Romans 5:2

through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.

Romans 9:30

[ Israel's Unbelief ] What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith;

Romans 10:17

Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.

Galatians 2:16

know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.

Galatians 2:20

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Galatians 3:8

The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you."

Galatians 3:9

So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

Galatians 3:11

Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith."

Galatians 3:14

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

Galatians 3:22

But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

Galatians 3:24

So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.

Galatians 3:25

Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

Galatians 3:26

[ Sons of God ] You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,

Philippians 3:9

and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.

Colossians 2:12

having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

2 Timothy 3:15

and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 1:9

for you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

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Am I correct in saying that we all understand "grace" as "unmerited favor?"

If by "unmerited favor" you mean not one of us deserves it then, yes we are in agreement.

Could you explain what God means when He says "...we have gained access by faith into this grace..." Romans 5:2

Thanks,

Trae

We have been given access to his never ending love and been given everlasting life by by is unmerited favor, only because we believe, and nothing else.

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Could you explain what God means when He says "...we have gained access by faith into this grace..." Romans 5:2

Thanks,

Trae

OOpps,,,,, Stop the train, hold the bus,,,,,Paul said this,,, not God. Big difference,,, We have to look at who's talking in the Bible,, and to whom it is spoken to. Paul wrote this to the Roman Church, 55 to 58 years A.D. So he used terms to communicate to them in ways they would understand.

Now,,, are you a Roman?,,,, and where you there? Nope.

You are reading way to much into it.

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OOpps,,,,, Stop the train, hold the bus,,,,,Paul said this,,, not God. Big difference,,, We have to look at who's talking in the Bible,, and to whom it is spoken to. Paul wrote this to the Roman Church, 55 to 58 years A.D. So he used terms to communicate to them in ways they would understand.

Now,,, are you a Roman?,,,, and where you there? Nope.

You are reading way to much into it.

If we are to view the bible like that, then none of it has to do with anything in our lives.

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James 2: [14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

[15] If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

[16] And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

[17] Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

[18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

[19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

[20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

[22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

[23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

[24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

[25] Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

The Key here is NOT BY FAITH ONLY!!!!

Why? It leaves out LOVE, Grace, Repentance, Confession, Lord's Supper, Giving, Work, Worship, Fellowship, PRAYER,On and On ALL OF THESE THING MUST BE APART OF A CHRISTIANS LIFE OR HE WILL BE LOST, We must Grow, can we do all these things Perfect....I can't! but by the Grace of God and Thru his Son we can! What shall we say should we continue in Sin that Grace may abound NO WAY God forbid!

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The Key here is NOT BY FAITH ONLY!!!!

Why? It leaves out LOVE, Grace, Repentance, Confession, Lord's Supper, Giving, Work, Worship, Fellowship, PRAYER,On and On ALL OF THESE THING MUST BE APART OF A CHRISTIANS LIFE OR HE WILL BE LOST, We must Grow, can we do all these things Perfect....I can't! but by the Grace of God and Thru his Son we can! What shall we say should we continue in Sin that Grace may abound NO WAY God forbid!

Yes by faith alone we become a child of God. Without Love, Repentace, Cofession and all of those others we remain a baby Christain and do not grow in the will of God. But we are still a child of God.

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[26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

[27] For as many of you as have been (AINT THIS PAST TENSE?) baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I AM NOT EDUCATED, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE TO BE SAVED. hOWEVER YOU NEED A OPEN MIND AND A GOOD HEART.

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[26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

[27] For as many of you as have been (AINT THIS PAST TENSE?) baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I AM NOT EDUCATED, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE TO BE SAVED. hOWEVER YOU NEED A OPEN MIND AND A GOOD HEART.

Forgive me if I have miss understood you, but are you saying that one DOES NOT have to be SAVED?? All we need is an open mind and a good heart?? If so, this is so FAR from what the Word of God says. In the book of Revelation it says that whoevers name is not found written in the Lambs Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire. There are a lot of good hearted people with open minds that have died not knowing (being saved) the Lord, does this get them into heaven? NO! Romans 10:13 "Forwhosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED." Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye SAVED, through faith." Jesus said He came to seek and to SAVE that which was lost. We MUST be SAVED if we expect to get one foot into heaven's gates.

Once again, if I have miss understood you, please let me know.

As far as your question goes, Paul was trying to encourage the Romans to continue in their "new" faith. Remember, he was speaking to the 1st century church, they had to get out of their "old" ways and into this "new" one. He was simply stating that they had been baptized and that it was a public profession of faith and a symbolic way of "putting" on Christ or their new beliefs.

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[26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

[27] For as many of you as have been (AINT THIS PAST TENSE?) baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I AM NOT EDUCATED, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE TO BE SAVED. hOWEVER YOU NEED A OPEN MIND AND A GOOD HEART.

I think you pretty much nailed it with that one. 26. Says it all doesn't it.

They are childrend of God by faith in Christ, and they apparently have all been baptised to. So that means that they are also obediant. :D

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James 2: [14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

[15] If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

[16] And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

[17] Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

[18] Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

[19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

[20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

[22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

[23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

[24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

[25] Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

The Key here is NOT BY FAITH ONLY!!!!

Why? It leaves out LOVE, Grace, Repentance, Confession, Lord's Supper, Giving, Work, Worship, Fellowship, PRAYER,On and On ALL OF THESE THING MUST BE APART OF A CHRISTIANS LIFE OR HE WILL BE LOST, We must Grow, can we do all these things Perfect....I can't! but by the Grace of God and Thru his Son we can! What shall we say should we continue in Sin that Grace may abound NO WAY God forbid!

if i am not mistaken, the book of James was written about the same time as the book of Acts.

Look at verse 21. Was Abraham your father. No. He was a Jew. Again, look at who is being addressed.

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Easymoney:

if i am not mistaken, the book of James was written about the same time as the book of Acts.

Look at verse 21. Was Abraham your father. No. He was a Jew. Again, look at who is being addressed.

Who is being adressed is the Twelve Tribes in Ja 1:1 and in Chapter 2: VS 1 He calls the Brethren members of the Body of Christ.

The point is made NOT BY FAITH ONLY and still their are those who believe it's by FAITH ONLY. However they still want to bring in GRACE, Repentance, Confession, Hope, Love...However all the while forgeting Baptism, where we come in contact with the Blood of Christ, Where our Sins are Forgiven, Where we are Added to The Church(Whom Jesus is the Head I might add) Meaning we can be saved OUTSIDE the Church.

Like Pircilla and Aquillia were teaching Apollos a more PERFECT WAY is what I want for uall!

I am not a preacher, their is no money in this for me. I am just doing what is my reasonable Service for God.

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Easymoney:

Who is being adressed is the Twelve Tribes in Ja 1:1 and in Chapter 2: VS 1 He calls the Brethren members of the Body of Christ.

The point is made NOT BY FAITH ONLY and still their are those who believe it's by FAITH ONLY. However they still want to bring in GRACE, Repentance, Confession, Hope, Love...However all the while forgeting Baptism, where we come in contact with the Blood of Christ, Where our Sins are Forgiven, Where we are Added to The Church(Whom Jesus is the Head I might add) Meaning we can be saved OUTSIDE the Church.

Like Pircilla and Aquillia were teaching Apollos a more PERFECT WAY is what I want for uall!

I am not a preacher, their is no money in this for me. I am just doing what is my reasonable Service for God.

For my own reasons I do not agree with you. Let's leave it at that. This is an etited post. I saw this

= on youtube. It really humbled me and decided to change what I had.

My sin is arrogance and pride. For that I apologise.

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We come in contact with the blood as soon as we call upon the name of the Lord and repent from our sins. Baptism is nothing more than a public profession of faith. Is it neccessary? Some say yes, some say no. Jesus did it, so I believe we should to, but it DOES NOT save us. If it does, then Christ died in vain. And I know He didn't die in vain! Here's my argument......

If one attends a church service on Sunday, gets saved during that service or even after he/she goes home. Sets a date to be baptized, but is killed in a car wreck before he/she is baptized, does this mean they aren't saved? Just because they weren't baptized? The Word says that God will in no wise cast away those who come to Him. So I believe baptism is an important part in our Christian walk, but it does not save us. Only the precious blood that Jesus shed can do that! (1 Peter 1:18-19)

As far as the "faith only" and the "not by faith only" goes, the Word says it is impossible to please God without faith. It says that our faith will produce good works. Just as the Word says, faith without works is dead, so it takes both. Kind of like having a car. Whoopty-do.......a car by itself can get you nowhere, it's dead, but when you put gas in the car, it goes and gets you where you need to be. Faith and works go hand in hand, like a car and gas, hammer and nails......you get my point.

I don't need a more "perfect way", I've got Jesus and you can't get more perfect than that!!!!

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Acts 18:

[24] And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.

[25] This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.

[26] And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.

[27] And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:

[28] For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.We know this was the OT scriptures, because the Bible as we know it was not written as of yet.

Acts.19

[1] And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,(Learners of Christ, Right?)

[2] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

[3] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

[4] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

[5] When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

My understanding is they Believed in the Lord and still they were Baptized in the Name of the Lord.

Today their is JUST One Baptism see Eph. 4:4,5 and that One Baptism, Is in the name of the Lord, for the Forgiveness of our sins, at that time we are ADDED to the One Church that Christ is the head of and the savior of the Body.

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Today their is JUST One Baptism see Eph. 4:4,5 and that One Baptism, Is in the name of the Lord, for the Forgiveness of our sins, at that time we are ADDED to the One Church that Christ is the head of and the savior of the Body.

If we have to be baptized to get forgiveness, then why does John say in 1 John 1:9 that if we will CONFESS our sins that He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness?

Baptism does not save, it is a symbolic way of showing THAT our sins have been washed away. Once confession is made with our mouth, forgiveness is given, again.....Romans 10:13 "Forwhosoever shall CALL upon the name of the Lord shall be SAVED."

Evidently we have our own opinions about this issue. I claim to be saved and I know I am. You claim the same so you are. I don't want to cause friction between myself and any members here, so I am going to drop the issue and hold to my beliefs.

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Im a youth pastor and it's funny when we talk about Grace and Faith how many debates come up. I tell my kids that what I believe is just that It's what I believe. I believe everyone has there own faith journey and that journey helps them determine what they will believe. I stress to them that Jesus is love and we can't say who is saved and who is not saved. I know people debate that but if we look at the Gospels Jesus gives us examples of Love. I take the road of Love and Grace when thinking about heaven and ****.

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IJKUCH, sorry I didn't see your post sooner.

I agree we MUST have Love.

Can ANYONE NOT Confess Christ before men, and be Saved?

I Pray, Hope, Believe that is what keeps me here. I love that I am Saved and Should help other's find that same Love. I also know if EVERYONE here at this site Obeys the Gospel of Christ from MY POST"S. I am just doing what God want me to do. I hope it would make him Happy. However, I can't say look here what I done for you Lord. Heaven MUST be my home because I am such a Great Christian. But still my teaching here is commanded by God. I can do better, do I need too? Maybe, I shouldn't worry about that. All I really need to do is PLANT the Seed, step Back and Let it Grow.

Would you agree we need to Repent?

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IJKUCH, sorry I didn't see your post sooner.

I agree we MUST have Love.

Can ANYONE NOT Confess Christ before men, and be Saved?

I Pray, Hope, Believe that is what keeps me here. I love that I am Saved and Should help other's find that same Love. I also know if EVERYONE here at this site Obeys the Gospel of Christ from MY POST"S. I am just doing what God want me to do. I hope it would make him Happy. However, I can't say look here what I done for you Lord. Heaven MUST be my home because I am such a Great Christian. But still my teaching here is commanded by God. I can do better, do I need too? Maybe, I shouldn't worry about that. All I really need to do is PLANT the Seed, step Back and Let it Grow.

Would you agree we need to Repent?

Yes anyone can cofess Christ, as a matter of fact many false profets have, as they have been baptised, and spoke in tounges, and proficied, and taken the Lords supper, and claimed to do His will, and claimed to know His word, and and and................. It's the belief in our hearts that separates us from them, not anything we do, but what we know.

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JohnF: I don't know why I haven't told you before. But that's a Handsome Boy on you post. Must look like his Mother ;o)

It's the belief in our hearts

John: our Heart does nothing but Pump Blood. Is what you are saying. We know in our Minds we are saved? If so please tell me about it?

John, I sence you are getting a little uncomfortable and if you don't want to discuss I understand. The last thing I want to do is make you mad or not like me. Might be to late for that...;o)

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JohnF: I don't know why I haven't told you before. But that's a Handsome Boy on you post. Must look like his Mother ;o)

John: our Heart does nothing but Pump Blood. Is what you are saying. We know in our Minds we are saved? If so please tell me about it?

John, I sence you are getting a little uncomfortable and if you don't want to discuss I understand. The last thing I want to do is make you mad or not like me. Might be to late for that...;o)

Actually quite the opposite, I'm very comfortable sharing my beliefs. It's just that you seem so completely closed to accept obvious biblical truths I don't figure there is any point beating a dead horse.

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