VermontHunter Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I finally talked my father into a tied D-Loop this year and go figure it just won't stay put .. :confused: I tied the first one on and it just wouldn't stay tight,, thought it was me, so off we go to the pro shop and they tie one on for him and same thing,, it just won't stay tight... :confused: ,, Off we go to yet another shop and they tie one on and same thing after some shooting the darn thing just comes loose and spins on the string... He's to the point he wants to go back to the Metal T.R.U. Nok,, I'm just not sure what the heck to do anbout this D-Loop delema... Anyone out there ever have this happen ?? Yes, I even bought the D-Loop Pliers to be sure it was nice and tight.. Anyone ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razortec_hunter Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 D loops meaning just a string loop? like a string?? cuz if that's it i put a couple drops of supper glue on mine just to make sure it wont go anywhere but if it's about those metal ones i cant help.....sry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 They did the same thing with mine as what razortec does. They put a couple of drops of fletching glue on the end of mine to make sure that it holds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 I have NEVER had a D Loop come loose, I am wondering if it is not being tied right. The knots should be on opposite sides. Luke, Take a pair of needle nose pliers and stick in the loop, make sure they are fairly big nosed, and just pull up on the handles, like you were opening them. I'd like to see a pic of the loop, to see how it is tied Nevermind on the pliers, I just saw where you bought D Loop pliers. I am curious as to if the knots are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Try a knotless loop if you can't get the tie on loops to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Hmmmm....I'd buy him a Mathews, mine hasn't come loose on my Switchback.....sorry, I'm no help here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Here is my 2 cents worth. With my experience with the d-loop pliers you can "torque" down too much on them. What happens is it pulls the knot so tight it seperates the serving. I have even seen this done (and I have done it:D) with new bows and new serving. When that happens it does make the knot slide around the string. I'am thinking this is what has happened in your case also. I'am thinking your gonna have to remove the loop and also reserve the string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Is the loop material waxed enough...? Wax helps it hold on the string... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Also... it may be the serving material. Some bows factory serving is kinda like a plastic material. Have had not as good of luck putting a loop on that stuff like a good thread serving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Gator I have NEVER had a D Loop come loose, I am wondering if it is not being tied right. The knots should be on opposite sides. Luke, Take a pair of needle nose pliers and stick in the loop, make sure they are fairly big nosed, and just pull up on the handles, like you were opening them. I'd like to see a pic of the loop, to see how it is tied Nevermind on the pliers, I just saw where you bought D Loop pliers. I am curious as to if the knots are wrong I've never had one come loose like this either Jason,, and it's driving me absolutely NUTTY .. I too thought it was the way I tied it, so we went to a proshop and had a new one installed (Twice) .. with the same results .. The loops were all installed with the reverse knot so they opposed each other... okiedog Here is my 2 cents worth. With my experience with the d-loop pliers you can "torque" down too much on them. What happens is it pulls the knot so tight it seperates the serving. I have even seen this done (and I have done it:D) with new bows and new serving. When that happens it does make the knot slide around the string. I'am thinking this is what has happened in your case also. I'am thinking your gonna have to remove the loop and also reserve the string. The first loop I tied by hand and then just pulled it tight,,, I didn't use the pliers until the 3rd. loop was installed..So I'm quite confindant that the serving wasn't ever seperated.. I too was wondering if it could be the type of serving material that was used.... So you're not alone with this conclusion.. turkeygirl Is the loop material waxed enough...? Wax helps it hold on the string... Just the wax that was already on the D-loop and serving.. Squirrelhunter91 Try a knotless loop if you can't get the tie on loops to stay. Never even considered a Knotless Loop Joe... this may be an option if the glue thing doesn't work ... THANKS for all of the suggestions folks,, maybe one of these idea's will work and this problem will be solved.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Well after everything that you have said... about all I have left to go off of would be the type of serving material. What kind of bow are you refering too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Well after everything that you have said... about all I have left to go off of would be the type of serving material. What kind of bow are you refering too? The bow is a PSE Lazer ... I put a couple dabs of super glue to it and it seems to be holding at the moment.. but if this doesn't work, we'll be re-installing the Ultra Nock II .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 You could always tied the D-Loop on and leave alittle extra length to the D-Loop and serve it to the string... Or reserve the the string with a different type of serveing and then tied on the D-Loop... Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Is there too much bowstring wax on? I had problems with this last year. I dont wax the serving anymore, problem went away! Personally, I not sure if your supposed to wax the serving either! I did at first, but now just the open string get waxed. But I like the idea of the knot-less loop too! Now that I have a little bow press! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 I would definitely try the knotless loop at this point because your Dad will never trust the loop even if it does stay and it may affect his form. The knotless isn't going anywhere for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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