Norm Sauceman Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I listened to it...Sometimes I just LOVE Rush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Mega dittos, Rush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Isn't it great that all these do-gooders want to give those fellows down in Cuba the same rights as citizens of this country!!!! NOT!!!! What is this liberal crap coming to!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Rush pretty well tells it how sees it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Re: we are at war people! I couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: we are at war people! WEll I didnt read anything except something wanting to sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: we are at war people! [ QUOTE ] Isn't it great that all these do-gooders want to give those fellows down in Cuba the same rights as citizens of this country!!!! NOT!!!! What is this liberal crap coming to!!! [/ QUOTE ] I don't believe that anyone wants to give these people the rights of an american citizen, but they do have rights. They have the right to know why they are being held, they have the right to be charged and they have the right to be free from abuse. Even the patron saint of conservatism Bill O'Reilly condemned Abu Ghraib, if it is happening at Gitmo then it needs to stop. Also, it is a violation of the Geneva Conventions and International Law as well as our laws, since they are technically being held on american soil, to hold someone without being charged. I have read quotes from Senators and military officials that they are planning on keeping these people indefinitely. If they have sufficient evidence, which it seems they don't, then they need to either be put to trial or released. For some reason, the Bush Admin likes to call this a war, and members of Al-Qaeda, combatants, but even Alberto in his confirmation hearings yesterday said they aren't subject to the Geneva Conventions, that might be because war was never formally declared, or maybe it's because they want to hold these people for as long as possible and get away with it. I don't condone what these people might have done, but I don't support the course of action we are taking, I don't condone the abuse of prisoners, unfortunately some on here call it interrogation, interrogation isn't photographed with a smiling woman with a thumbs up over a pile of naked men, that was abuse and plain ignorance, and anyone who supports and condones that is no better than the terrorists filming a beheading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Slug i have to disagree with you here bud. Iam all for following the geneva convention laws when the enemy puts on a uniform and as enough $%*& to stand up and fight, but this enemy is a cowerd, the shoot from behind women and children, the take the attack to civilians instead of taking on the armed forces head on like any army would. Heck even the coward sadam's army fought in uniforms and as soilders even if it was a pathetic fight. Al-quade has no rights what-so-ever in my mind, and if they just happen to rot away in some prison well....so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: we are at war people! CH, for once we agree! Dang those fishing trips must have enlightened you!! On top of that, you voted for Bush!! AMAZING!!! Things are looking up!!!!! LOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: we are at war people! First things first, the Geneva Accord only applies to soldiered armies in uniform – look it up. These people are not a soldiered army in uniform. Secondly, the freedoms of America follow the flag. Where ever the flag flies, those freedoms that are afforded to American’s are afforded to those under that flag. Maybe just maybe there are certain things that Americans and other nationalities DON’T need to know. I think that when it comes to the military, war and it’s processes the average person has no real rights to know what is being done or how things are being handled especially if you don’t have the stomach to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_218 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Rush Limbaugh is okay but I like Chuck Harder "For The People" much better. The only sad thing about it is that I can no longer get his program "For The People" on radio. The Chuck Harder show use to be on Olney, Illinois radio station 740 AM 1-3 pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: we are at war people! [ QUOTE ] I don't condone the abuse of prisoners, unfortunately some on here call it interrogation, interrogation isn't photographed with a smiling woman with a thumbs up over a pile of naked men, that was abuse and plain ignorance, and anyone who supports and condones that is no better than the terrorists filming a beheading. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with you there slugger, but that has nothing to do with the Geneva Accord, since it doesn't apply in this case. We are not at war with a country or soldiers in uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Shoot them down where they stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: we are at war people! [ QUOTE ] First things first, the Geneva Accord only applies to soldiered armies in uniform – look it up. These people are not a soldiered army in uniform. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I agree with you there slugger, but that has nothing to do with the Geneva Accord, since it doesn't apply in this case. We are not at war with a country or soldiers in uniform. [/ QUOTE ] Then we are not at war per se and needs to stop being called a war. Let it be called what it really is, a police action. Regardless of whatever they call it, prisoners still have certain rights that are to be afforded to them, and to hold someone without formal charges is against our laws, and those prisoners in Gitmo are being held on our soil under our flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldawg Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Which is harsher, a bullet between the eyes, or a little tough interrogation? As was already stated, if we can't hold them, then kill them. They tryed, and some probably suceeded in killing some of our servicemen. Where is thier justice? They don't ever get to worry about some form of abuse in thier lives, as they are dead. Whether a declared war, or a police action, if we can't interrogate them and hold them, then be done with it and take no prisoners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: we are at war people! If they are terrorists, interrogate them, not torture them, interrogation does not involve women posing over a pile of naked bodies and being traumatized by dogs, when you are done interrogating, charge them and try them, if not there is no legal basis for being able to hold someone indefinitely, which is what the Bush Admin has said they plan on doing, for a group of people who cry and moan about Democrats wanting to redistribute wealth into social programs that help less fortunate Americans, ya'll seem to have no problem with billions of our tax dollars holding 500 supposed terrorists, some of which, by interrogators opinions have given up all the information they had, and holding them indefinitely, that means the rest of their lives, that is a lot of mouths to feed and clothe, not to mention the logistics involved of them being held in Cuba, and you know, God forbid that some of these people may not even be terrorists and have no links to Al-Qaeda or the Taliban who will never see their families again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: we are at war people! [ QUOTE ] We are doing battle with a foe with proportions of a spiritual nature that has taken on a mortal body." [/ QUOTE ] Ain't that the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: we are at war people! rush was a savior =============================== ROFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horst Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: we are at war people! [ QUOTE ] If they are terrorists, interrogate them, not torture them, interrogation does not involve women posing over a pile of naked bodies and being traumatized by dogs, when you are done interrogating, charge them and try them, if not there is no legal basis for being able to hold someone indefinitely, which is what the Bush Admin has said they plan on doing, for a group of people who cry and moan about Democrats wanting to redistribute wealth into social programs that help less fortunate Americans, ya'll seem to have no problem with billions of our tax dollars holding 500 supposed terrorists, some of which, by interrogators opinions have given up all the information they had, and holding them indefinitely, that means the rest of their lives, that is a lot of mouths to feed and clothe, not to mention the logistics involved of them being held in Cuba, and you know, God forbid that some of these people may not even be terrorists and have no links to Al-Qaeda or the Taliban who will never see their families again. [/ QUOTE ] Good plan but when we release em we should make sure they all go to live near you.Then Im sure theyll find gainfull employment, settle down and quit blowing up and beheading people and go on to lead productive lives.Maybe you can invite em over for tea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: we are at war people! You know, it’s easy to sit back and tell others what they should/could/would do but until put into a position that allows a similar situation, you have no idea how you or others around you will act. I think if everyone were put into a position that allowed for something horrible to happen to themselves or their families and you know that someone knows how to prevent it, then you’d be the first up to bat ready to do whatever it took to get the answers you were seeking. And be ****’d to whatever anyone else thought was right or wrong. From the responses I read from some, I can only summize that if given one of the terrorists that flew a plane into the WTC. You would be more concerned to the health and well-being of them and less concerned with the 3000 people that were about to die. Given the intelligence report that a group of radicals were wanting to detonate a nuclear bomb on US soil killing God only knows how many. You’re more concerned with the health, well being and humility of a hand full of known terrorists. Forget this country – God help this world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Forget this country – God help this world! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Then dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Point exactly Carbon! It's obvious that you have more concern for the criminal than the victim and more concern for a terrorist than the people they killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: we are at war people! Hey Parrot I lost family in 9-11...good thing your in georgia, and read up a bit if you want my feeling on this issue. your the one who said to forget this country not me. just as long as you burn in **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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