wtnhunt Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Well, I kind of think it is a good problem in a way:rolleyes:. Have mentioned in a few posts here and there about getting some beef processed. I picked it up yesterday afternoon. I knew it was a good sized steer, he went 1700 lbs live weight, 1052 lbs rail weight. Not sure exactly how many lbs of meat we ended up with, but our 23 cu ft chest freezer is totally full with beef, with just a little space for a bag of chicken and a few bags of veggies. Ended up having to take out our wire baskets and pack the meat in loose to even get it all to fit:eek:. Added a pic to show how little room is left. Where my problem comes in in one regard is that we have absolutely no freezer space left between two deep freezers and the side of our fridge. Had to give away more corn that would not fit yesterday. That means if I kill a deer, will have to give away some more of something because I have no where to put anything else right now. The dilemma is really in dealing with family. It would be great to recover some of my expenses, but I really dont like dealing with business or money with family, too many potential headaches. My parents kind of offered without me offering to them to buy some of the meat for what it cost me. Well what it cost me total is considerably more than just the $530 processing fee I paid yesterday. My mother has asked several times how much per pound I thought it would cost. They want the stuff I dont want to really part with like the T-bones and better cut steaks. I figured total expense just under a $1 a pound all total with travel costs, the processing costs and the corn I fed the last month before taking the steer in. I am afraid my mother and step father if I let them pay me for any meat at all, may get upset with how much I expect. Honestly I know you cannot buy ground angus lean at 90/10 for a buck a pound anywhere and it would be doing them a pretty big favor. Being that the steer was a little older, not too sure either how tender the steaks will end up being and dont want to hear any complaints. I am considering just giving them what I want to give them and not letting them give me any money, maybe tell them Merry Christmas early, enjoy:D. How does everyone else feel with dealing with family with situations where money is involved? What would you do in this type of situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Chief Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 First nice freezer full. I try not to deal with famliy and money at all. There are 2 prices, fair and family fair and you lose big time on family fair. Wouldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Sounds like a big barbeque is in order. UMMMM T-Bones:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 If I had any money left over I would quickly look in the want ads for a nice used deep freeze and not worry about having to part with the meat at all!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Uhhh, next time stick to a 750 lb calf! If you've got some really big packages, like ribs, cook them first. That'll free up some space in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 If you've got some really big packages, like ribs, cook them first. That'll free up some space in a hurry. Only large packages really are the steaks, everything was packaged "family size portions". Will be grilling some T-bones this weekend. If I had any money left over I would quickly look in the want ads for a nice used deep freeze and not worry about having to part with the meat at all!!!!! Considered repairing an old freezer we have down in our barn, but decided with 2 deep freezers already, and the side by side fridge, we really did not want another freezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I've split freezer beef before with my parents, but I let them deal with the farmer directly just like I did. That way, I didn't handle any of their $$$. Sounds to me like you need to find another freezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Will be grilling some T-bones this weekend. What time we eattin' and what do you want me to bring ;):D I would check into another freezer. Just for short term use... Money and family is a pain in the backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Fogettabout it....let them kill their own cow! I really don't see what the problem is. I deal with my Dad all the time on splits like this. We don't make money on each other and we don't lose money on each other. I would figure out what you need for your family and then sell them what you have left over at $1 a pound. If you don't have any of the good stuff left over, then they deal. If so, sell it to them at cost. Maybe mark the step-dad's up $.50 a pound! Just be clear as to what they can expect and life will be okay. Heck, even at $2.00 a pound, it is a bargain, unless you are talking ground beef and then it is still a bargain. The best beef I ever tasted was old Jack that my wife's grandfather slaughtered. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I really don't see what the problem is. I deal with my Dad all the time on splits like this. We don't make money on each other and we don't lose money on each other. I would figure out what you need for your family and then sell them what you have left over at $1 a pound. Have absolutely no intentions of making any money off of them. If anything would try to recover some of our expense. Honestly I really dont think my family of 5 will eat 350-400 lbs of ground beef in a year, so we can afford to part with some of it which will free up some freezer space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 No Problem Have absolutely no intentions of making any money off of them. If anything would try to recover some of our expense. Honestly I really dont think my family of 5 will eat 350-400 lbs of ground beef in a year, so we can afford to part with some of it which will free up some freezer space. If your family can't eat that much meat, then you don't have a problem at all! Just give them 100 pounds of the beef, go and shoot yourself a nice deer! If they insist on paying you something then, just accept what they offer and say "Thank You"! Problem solved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfletch7441 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 If your family can't eat that much meat, then you don't have a problem at all! Just give them 100 pounds of the beef, go and shoot yourself a nice deer! If they insist on paying you something then, just accept what they offer and say "Thank You"! Problem solved! Or tell them that their money is no good to you and Merry Christmas, Happy Halloween, or whatever. I'd be willing to bet that the money your mom spent on you while raising you is more than enough to cover a bit of hamburger. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Have absolutely no intentions of making any money off of them. If anything would try to recover some of our expense. Honestly I really dont think my family of 5 will eat 350-400 lbs of ground beef in a year, so we can afford to part with some of it which will free up some freezer space. Right, simple math...or is it? What did it cost you to bring that cow home cut up? Processing fees, feed, etc. Add it all up, they are your costs. Then you get into the problem of how to charge them. Let's say total costs are $800 and you received 800 pounds of beef. That's a cost per pound of $1.00 per pound. However, all cuts of beef aren't the same. If you hand someone a Tbone or Porterhouse from the freezer, the $1.00 per pound is an understatement. If you hand them a pound of ground, it is overstatement. I suppose that if you REALLY wanted to be anal and exact, you would have to do the following: -Inventory each individual cut of meat you have by weight and type of cut. -Figure out the retail selling price per pound for each type of cut at the supermarket. -Multiply the retail selling price per pound of each cut by the weight of each of your cuts to get an individual retail price of your cuts. -Add up the retail value of each of your cuts to get the total retail value of your beef. -Divide the retail value of each cut into the total retail value of all of your beef (this factors in the weight and type of the cut). -Multiply each cut's retail percentage of the retail total against your total COST of the beef. You will have your price per cut of the cow that takes into account the true value of the cut. That way if your parents want only a couple steaks and mostly ground, you can get an accurate price for them. The other option is to say to mom and dad, "I will give you 1/4 of the cow for $200" (1/4 of your TOTAL costs). Then you have to inventory the number of each cut you have by weight and type and ensure you give them 1/4 of each type of cut. I agree with the others though.....give it to them. I am sure momma let you have the best pieces of the chicken and the best biscuits growing up. New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Right, simple math...or is it? What did it cost you to bring that cow home cut up? Processing fees, feed, etc. Add it all up, they are your costs. Then you get into the problem of how to charge them. Let's say total costs are $800 and you received 800 pounds of beef. That's a cost per pound of $1.00 per pound. However, all cuts of beef aren't the same. If you hand someone a Tbone or Porterhouse from the freezer, the $1.00 per pound is an understatement. If you hand them a pound of ground, it is overstatement. I suppose that if you REALLY wanted to be anal and exact, you would have to do the following: -Inventory each individual cut of meat you have by weight and type of cut. -Figure out the retail selling price per pound for each type of cut at the supermarket. -Multiply the retail selling price per pound of each cut by the weight of each of your cuts to get an individual retail price of your cuts. -Add up the retail value of each of your cuts to get the total retail value of your beef. -Divide the retail value of each cut into the total retail value of all of your beef (this factors in the weight and type of the cut). -Multiply each cut's retail percentage of the retail total against your total COST of the beef. You will have your price per cut of the cow that takes into account the true value of the cut. That way if your parents want only a couple steaks and mostly ground, you can get an accurate price for them. The other option is to say to mom and dad, "I will give you 1/4 of the cow for $200" (1/4 of your TOTAL costs). Then you have to inventory the number of each cut you have by weight and type and ensure you give them 1/4 of each type of cut. I agree with the others though.....give it to them. I am sure momma let you have the best pieces of the chicken and the best biscuits growing up. New LOL. That looks like a great big headache there:eek:, and no way i am unpacking the freezer and counting out each package and writing up an inventory:rolleyes:. Thanks for the replies everyone. Really think I will just plan to give them around 50 lbs or so of ground and a few packages of steaks and roasts and not take their money. Would be a lot easier, and think everyone would be happier in the end. That would also free up some space for a deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Oh, alright, send some up here and I'll take care of it for you. My family goes through 2lbs of meat at dinner time. I guess that means around 700lbs of meat a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest outdoorgirl Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I would say make it a early Christmas gift and make up a nice assortment of different cuts. I am sure they would appreciate it and this way it'll free up some space and all will be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Man, I'd be glad to take some ground beef off your hands!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 i'd simply figgure out how much a pound you have in it, total, and pass it along. they also have to take all cuts, not just the good stuff. finally, beef in a freezer looses taste fast. no meat should remain frozen over 6 months (fish is 3 months). sure, i know we all do, but you shouldn't. it looses flavor, and goes down hill fast. so, only keep what you'll eat in 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 (I just can't believe how many people in here will admit to eating the lowly cow and risk being seen as second-rate hunters!) HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil hunter Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 If you need it gone, tell them what you are willing to part with, have them make an offer, and accept it. Surely your parents won't give you a rediculously low offer, that you wouldn't accept. And they can't get mad at the price, if they name it. If it's meat that you probably wouldn't eat anyways, do you really need to worry about getting all of your money back that you put into it? Either way, it's still costing you less than what 90% of america spends on their beef at the grocery store. Thats just the opinion of a 17 y/o who hasn't really had to make any deals like this with his parents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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