Guest swampfox Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=/Commentary/archive/200708/COM20070829c.html The above link is to a newspaper article that talks about a book recommended to 12 year old in the government schools. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devourBe sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour 1 Peter 5:8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Sickening, down right sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrea Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Nothing surprises me anymore. What a bunch of trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Disgusting Yes, a very good reason to Home-school. Come Lord Jesus, come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missilelock Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Better times are comin Hang in there everyone- better times are comin. Im glad I dont have to answer for that one on judgement day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Dang, and I thought Harry Potter was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 If that school board is elected like it is here, and the majority (public) wants that content out of the school, then it sounds like they need to elect new members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 That is pathetic! Those kids arent even 14. No one needs to be reading that garbage anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swampfox Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 One of the problems among Christians is that Bible believers assume that these issues are always in someone else's school district when in fact they are happening in our own neighborhoods. 80% of government schooled kids whose parents are Bible believing Christians leave the faith never to come back. Why so many? Ask the humanists who run the schools: "I am convinced that the battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers that correctly perceive their role as proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and new — the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent with the promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of ‘love thy neighbor’ will finally be achieved." John Dunphy, The Humanist, January-February,1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yeah that is garbage but you know what, I have seen the outcome of homeschooled kids. Unless I just have always bumped into the stupid ones, none of them seemed up to par with my kids;) I'll take my chance on public school and hope what they are taught at home is not forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swampfox Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 TreeStandBowHunter, Statistics argue against you. Homeschool students far outperform public school students in standardized tests. http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000010/200410250.asp And these higher scores are evident regardless of the parents educational level. More important than test scores is the anti-Christian worldview imparted to the kids in public school. The following was taken from a paper written by Bruce Short to the Resolutions Committee of the Southern Baptist Convention. Several members have proposed a resolution calling for all SBC members to pull their children from our God-denying, tragically destructive government schools. ·In 2002 the SBC’s Council on Family Life reported that roughly 88% of our children leave the church within 2 years after graduating from high school. It is reported by LifeWay’s Zan Tyler that Josh McDowell Ministries pegs the number who leave at 92%.[1] ·Barna Research points out that while 86% of teens claim to be Christian and many are involved in church activities, the teens’ professions of Christianity and church attendance are deceiving. When the actual beliefs of our teens were surveyed, Barna research found, for example, that 60% believe salvation can be earned through good works, 53% (including 40% of evangelical teens) believe that Jesus sinned while he was on earth, only 1/3 said they were absolutely committed to Christianity, and only 9% of "born again" teens believe that there is any such thing as absolute moral truth. Should it be surprising, then, that Barna also finds that, based on survey data, only 4% of teens are actually evangelical Christians? ·Based on many years of worldview testing of evangelical teens, the Nehemiah Institute has found that at most only about 15% of evangelical teens attending public schools clearly reject moral relativism and believe that absolute moral truth exists. ·The results from the largest survey of teen religious attitudes and beliefs, the National Survey of Youth and Religion, have been written up in Soul Searching by the lead researcher, Dr. Christian Smith, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina. Dr. Smith points out that most teens profess whatever religion their parents claim, which, of course, means that the overwhelming majority of teens claim to be Christian. Nevertheless, the research also shows that, whatever they may claim to be, the overwhelming majority of “Christian” teens is absolutely incapable of articulating anything resembling the fundamental tenets of Christianity. According to Dr. Smith: “Many teenagers know abundant details about the lives of favorite musicians and television stars or about what it takes to get into a good college, but most turn out to be not very clear on who Moses and Jesus were.” For example, when asked what God is like, one typical teenager responded: “Um…Good. Powerful.” When asked if there was anything else, she responded: “Tall.” The book uses many examples like these from the study’s teen interviews to illustrate why they concluded that teens are unable to articulate even a simple account of Christianity or whatever else they may profess to believe. In fact, the researchers conclude that the actual “faith” of the vast majority of teens is something that Dr. Smith characterizes as “Moralistic Therapeutic Deism.” This is a creed that conceives of God as something of a “cosmic butler” who exists to get people out of problems and who has, perhaps, one commandment: “Be nice.” The researchers also found that many parents of the teens appear to hold to a similar faith, even though they may profess Christianity. Further, in the appendix to Soul Searching, Dr. Smith points out that his research shows churches and pastors barely register in terms of the forces that shape and influence the beliefs and values of children. ·In light of the foregoing, perhaps it isn’t surprising that Dr. Thom Rainer has estimated that nearly 50% of the members of SBC churches may not be Christians. Obviously, our multigenerational lack of faithfulness in the education of children has created a multigenerational problem in our churches. While multiple sources point to a catastrophic situation with respect to Christian children in general, what do we find when we examine Christian children who are receiving a Christian education either through Christian schools or homeschooling? ·The Nehemiah Institute’s worldview testing shows that students in Christian schools reject moral relativism at a rate 500% higher than Christian children attending public schools. The same worldview surveys also show that children receiving a Christian education do better on worldview issues overall than their public school counterparts, with outstanding results typically coming from Christian schools that incorporate worldview materials in their curriculum and homeschooled children. ·Children attending Christian schools or who are homeschooled demonstrate on average significantly higher levels of academic achievement than their public school counterparts. ·In a recent academic study, homeschooled children were found to be significantly less likely than conventionally schooled children to watch MTV; use drugs; lie to a parent, teacher, or other older person; attempt suicide; drink enough alcohol to be legally drunk; or gamble. Homeschoolers were also significantly less likely to describe themselves as too busy, stressed out, angry with life, confused, or always tired. ·Research by Dr. Brian Ray, founder of NHERI, found that 94% of all homeschooled children retained their faith into adulthood. Parental involvement is the key to good education no matter where the child goes to school. I hope that your involvement with your children will serve as a bulwark against the paganism they pick up at school. Some Christian kids make it across the mine field intact. I hope yours will, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Unless I just have always bumped into the stupid ones, none of them seemed up to par with my kids;) That's why I said that above statement;) Plus you know what statistics are don't you? Nothing but rubbage. But anyway, like I said, I guess all the ones I met are just the dumb ones:D:p;) I remember one kid that came to my sons birthday party last year was so overwhelmed by all the other kids, he starting to panic:D It was hilarious. I called his dad and told him to come pick up his boy:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swampfox Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Sounds like that kid needs some work. Maybe Paris Island will toughen him up in a few years. Or pack him back home to Mama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Sounds like that kid needs some work. Maybe Paris Island will toughen him up in a few years. Or pack him back home to Mama. That's pretty much what we did except we packed him up back home to his papa. My wife thought about homeschooling when are kids were younger, I am glad she didn't. I guess if you have a good system, it's OK but I wouldn't do it. Now if we lived in Brooklyn or something like that, maybe then:D;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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