Strut_Buster Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Call me cold hearted but I can't stand it. This Tsunami is a Terrible tragedy, its just sick and I pray for the people whom are efected and lost loved ones and their families. I'm glad the US is helping out, donateing money not only from the government and charitys. But somethings bothering me. All these other european nations always complain and their people say that we are the worst nation in the world. Well after watching the news It would appear so. Germany donated more money than us... or did they. Look at all the relief operations our US service men and women are partakeing in. Flying 12 hour shifts day and night. Ok... how much is this really costing us, gas, aricraft matinece, pilot pay, keeping ships operational. Where are those **** french and germans. I don't see their aircrafts and carriers over there doing a **** thing. No money envolved = no europe troops. I dunno why the US bothers sometimes. We lead the world and catch grief, but when an oppertunity arises for others to lead and send help they sit and watch. The US is gonna foot the bill for this one and i don't like it. I'd rather know that my troops in Iraq have money for their every need. How anyone can say the US is Evil, or warhawks and bloodthirsty.. kiss my ( add proper word here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Good valid points...I don't see it as cold at all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold I agree completely! Europe is not going to lead in anything other than creating problems for us in the UN! This is why we need to take a hard look at getting out of the UN and not jumping to those fools who are pulling the strings there. We don"t need that organization at all. It is run it's course and is nothing but a hinderance! As soon as the UN gets involved in any situation, there is going to be problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Really think that they are asking too much. Heard on the radio just this morning that Kofi Annan asked and requested that the United States give ONE BILLION DOLLARS to the UN to deal with the relief. Dont know how he even still holds his job, a request like that really makes me sick. We already do more than our share of helping out the rest of the world. Time for someone else to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Plus, I heard on the news the other day, they are now blaming the US for the tsunami, therefore, it's our place to pick up the biggest share of the aid. They were saying that global warming is our fault and that's what caused the tsunami. Also, some conspiracy theories about us doing an underwater test of a nuclear bomb which caused the quake. One of the scientists said it would have taken a million nuclear bombs to create a quake that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold I wonder how they would all feel if we took our ball and went home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold We would get just as much from any other country and the UN as we did when we had all the hurricanes this year and that was ZERO!!!!! It is sick that we have to support the whole blasted world!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold I'll once again donate my prayers....... It's their fault that they live by the ocean....... In a Second -World country..... With no technology to warn them.......... And a whole bunch of stuff in the USA says "MADE IN THAILAND".............. They have enough of my money. JJL now that's COLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold And, if what I hear is correct, most of the manufacturing plants (and jobs), the real infrastructure in the countries, was further inland and hardly touched by the tsunami. Those people who work at the plants may be have been lost to the tsunami or not currently working because they're searching for loved ones or trying to rebuild their homes. That means most of the aid going there to help, other than that that will help with food and shelter, is going to go to rebuilding their tourism business, i.e. the motels and resorts that were lost or damaged. In other words, the majority of the money is going to help rebuild private enterprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetailkiller Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold [ QUOTE ] Call me cold hearted but I can't stand it. This Tsunami is a Terrible tragedy, its just sick and I pray for the people whom are efected and lost loved ones and their families. I'm glad the US is helping out, donateing money not only from the government and charitys. But somethings bothering me. All these other european nations always complain and their people say that we are the worst nation in the world. Well after watching the news It would appear so. Germany donated more money than us... or did they. Look at all the relief operations our US service men and women are partakeing in. Flying 12 hour shifts day and night. Ok... how much is this really costing us, gas, aricraft matinece, pilot pay, keeping ships operational. Where are those **** french and germans. I don't see their aircrafts and carriers over there doing a **** thing. No money envolved = no europe troops. I dunno why the US bothers sometimes. We lead the world and catch grief, but when an oppertunity arises for others to lead and send help they sit and watch. The US is gonna foot the bill for this one and i don't like it. I'd rather know that my troops in Iraq have money for their every need. How anyone can say the US is Evil, or warhawks and bloodthirsty.. kiss my ( add proper word here) [/ QUOTE ] wow you took the words right out of my mouth...i just didn't wanna get the forums in an uproar!!!!! enough is enough!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyj987 Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold I really can't criticize Germany this time. Think about it--our national media really is just going to focus on the efforts of the US. I wouldn't bet the farm that Germany will deliver as much $ as they say they will, but kudos to them if they do. France--is fair game though. I think they donated per capita the contents of my pocket. (A lug nut, a subway free sub card, some pocket lint, and misc. keys that are for God knows what). I'm continuing to be impressed by the generosity of our nation. Canada has also stepped up, Sweden has stepped up (per capita they're donating a TON), and am REALLY impressed by Japan's donation. Japan is proving itself as a true leader in Asia and I think that's fantastic. Of course, the ultimate cheapskate award has to go to Saudi Arabia. The last tally I heard from them was $10 million. The richest Muslim country giving drops in a bucket to help other Muslims--considering there were more Muslims affected than any other religious group. This is probably the first time I'll ever praise the U.N. This is the kind of thing the U.N. excels at--relief efforts after natural disasters. For the first time I can remember, they're really doing something worthwhile and they deserve the credit. Just like I'll call them out when they do something stupid, I'll praise them when they do something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Exactly it is wasy to criticize. If you look on a per capita basis, Japan, Australia, the US, Canada, and a few others have all given similar amounts, and rather significant contributions....most of the ones whining have given very little. Could it be they are trying to draw attention away from their stingy donations?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldksnarc Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold The rich Arabs aren't the ones ponying up. They have sponsored a telethon to allow other Muslims to donate to the cause while they keep their oil money to themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotupdeer Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold [ QUOTE ] I wonder what would happen if the tsunami happened on U.S. soil? do you really think that indonesia and Sri Lanka would help us out?? do you think the UN would ask France or Germany or any other european country for money to help us out? I DOUUUBT IT. if the tsunami happened in any country but the U.S. we would be expected to help. but if it happened to us we would get jack **** for help from anyone. as it is now so much money has been sent over to those countries that they should all be living in brand new houses. [/ QUOTE ] I highly doubt Indonesia and Sri Lanka have the money to donate to help the United States. Much of the money sent by us has been in the form of private donations. As a world leader, it is our job to step up and help other, less fortunate countries either monetarily or through manpower when disasters, natrual or otherwise occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billygoat Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Guys... ummmmm? Just read this: [ QUOTE ] JAKARTA, Indonesia - Australia committed $764 million Wednesday to help Indonesia recover from the tsunami disaster, becoming the largest relief donor hours after Germany increased its aid to $674 million as the second-biggest contributor. The pledge by Australia came on top of its previously announced donation of $46 million, making the country's total $810 million. It also pushed the worldwide total of donations over the $3 billion mark [/ QUOTE ] The I read the world donations: [ QUOTE ] Germany - $1.1bn Australia - $903m European Union - $628m US - $550m Japan - $500m FROM THE WORLD'S POOREST Russian town of Beslan - scene of a bloody school siege last year - pledged 1m roubles ($36,000) from the fund set up after the mass hostage-taking Mozambique - one of the world's poorest nations - has donated $100,000 Britain - $285m Norway - $212m Asian Development Bank - $175m Sweden - $140m Italy - $115m France - $115m Canada - $95m [/ QUOTE ] I am not real gung ho on taking our troops either. But, I know if I had a family member over there, I would be thankful for the contribution of the US. Also, it sometimes helps to look at all the numbers before we start to point the fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Shotup, think the point is that we do give and we get criticized while giving more than anyone else usually does. [ QUOTE ] As a world leader, it is our job to step up and help other, less fortunate countries either monetarily or through manpower when disasters, natrual or otherwise occur. [/ QUOTE ] Dont think it as much our responsibility as people like to make it when they NEED something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold We give said comp. enough as it is in salaries anyway....look at the number of off-shore manufacturers doing stuff there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold I rarely even come in this forum. I was checking who was online and saw this post and it caught my eye. I have to say that the explaination is a very simple one. I call it the "PACK VIEW" it is as you have already said: "We lead the world and catch grief" and the reason that we are looked upon like that is the "PACK" only sees the rear view and are always chomping at our heels while they are behind. In other words IF YOUR NOT THE LEAD DOG THE VIEW NEVER CHANGES Next time tell us what you really mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 257Roberts Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold I wish they would put a spot on my tax forms where i can specify what amount i want to contribute to the U.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold Bet the total added up well exceeds a billion right now that has been given by this country. I heard on the news last week a private Christian organization from the United States gave some 400 million to the relief effort if I heard right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gfourhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Call Me Cold this topic is rocking, dont stop now im loving this. i thought i was the only cold harted ba***** on this topic. i would give my opinion but i dont think my fingers can type that mutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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