wtnhunt Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Birth control for 11 year olds without any notification to the parents even:mad:. Saw this story on the news yesterday, just dont understand what some people are thinking to allow a school to do this in their community http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303341,00.html. Cannot understand how anyone in their right mind does not see that this type of thing only promotes and encourages younger children to become more sexually active at younger ages. What gives any school the right to do this to our kids, and what in the world are they thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 When it comes down to birth control, I believe all girls should be on it, and the boys as well, until they have finished college and have a good paying job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 When it comes down to birth control, I believe all girls should be on it, Middle school kids here Orlan, 11 year olds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Middle school kids here Orlan, 11 year olds . Yes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldawg Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Middle school kids here Orlan, 11 year olds . I'm totally against this too! If the school wants to pay the childs way through thier childhood years, then, and only then would they have the right to do this. A parent loses alot of control on certain issues, if this is done behind thier backs. It may cause a child to not take enough precautions against sexual diseases, and cause them to run around and not listen to the parents. Dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 In a great many cases, the "parents" don't have any control over their kids the way it is! This is one reason to use birth control, so society doesn't have to pay anymore money for these lame brains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 In a great many cases, the "parents" don't have any control over their kids the way it is! This is one reason to use birth control, so society doesn't have to pay anymore money for these lame brains! The way I see it, it is a lame excuse for letting people decide for parents how to raise their kids Orlan, and this is saying to those kids it is ok to have sex, just dont get pregnant. I dont know how many little girls you have raised, but I happen to have a very bright intellectually gifted 11 year old daughter, and despite her being very bright, there is no way she is ready mentally for that and am glad schools around here would likely never do such. Dont think the hormones in birth control pills are designed for kids, and I for one would have to question what type of health risks would be involved giving hormone altering drugs to a young developing child. Parents should have a right to decide these things for their own kids, not schools deciding for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativetexan Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 The problem is not the school, well it is, but the REAL problem is that not enough parents are engaged with their kids schools to take them back down a notch. Therefore, the school gets to set up their agendas in whatever manner they see fit, without argument. I'm a firm believer that if one of my sons gets a girl pregnant, that is my issue and the issue of those involved. It has nothing to do with the school. I ever catch someone even mentioning to give my sons some kind of medicine to curb a behavior, it will be the day that begins the journey of taking that person's job, and anyone else's that agrees with them within the employment of the school district. Simple, teach my kid math, english, science, etc. Detract from that, and I will take your job. If my son is not behaving, I will handle it thank you very much. Everyone of those people on that school board and member of government who allowed this to happen should be fired, or voted out of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 When it comes down to birth control, I believe all girls should be on it, and the boys as well, until they have finished college and have a good paying job! that's the ticket. put all the girls starting kindergarten on the pill, and put salt peter into the boys food. and don't forget to put a condom in all their milk cups.... our schools pushing sex and birth control is one of the big reasons why our culture is what it is today. take god out of schools and put sex in. i think it was much better 50 years ago, before our schools got hip. sure, girls got pregnant, but not nearly in the numbers of our progressive society. i say leave it up to the parents. the good christian parents' kids will do well, the bums will get knocked up. just like a thousand years ago, and a hundred years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Do you have girls OJR? I can't imagine the rage that I would have for someone who defiled my daughter with those drugs. There is a time and a place for those and 11 years old isn't it. Do 11 year olds get pregnant, yes. Should they be having sex. NO!! Any that do should be getting counseling and, anyone who thinks it's ok for them to prepare for sex (birth control) should take a serious look at themselves. If their parents are giving it to them, the should have their butts kicked up between their shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 No girls here but I have 7 granddaughters and I hope that my sons would have them on birth control as soon as they able to reproduce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 christian parents' kids will do well, the bums will get knocked up. just like a thousand years ago, and a hundred years ago. That is way off base there. Sometimes the little Christain girls are worse than the "Bums". Trust me, I married one:D What I am saying is that sure, it may help if they are raised in a Christian home but many times, if a girl wants to have sex, they will. It does not matter if they are "Christains" or "Bums". Peer pressure may be handled a little differently by "SOME" young Christains both biblically and spirtually but when the hormones kick in, not much can stop it except for hope and prayer. And I bet hope out weighs prayer in this catagory! You don't think that the girls in Christain schools have sex just like girls in city schools? A lot of times it doesn't matter how much Christianity mommy and daddy put on kids. It's called HORMONES! Just like when we were kids! Things are no different today. We just think they are because we been there. Just like our kids will say the same thing when they are our age! Now sex education has changed in schools and probably for the worse but kids are kids, no matter what religion they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I agree with the Marine completely!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Let me add this too. I don't care how good of a Christain parent you are. And this goes for boys too, not just girls. Unless you strap your child to a chair until he or she is 18, and never let them out of your house or your sight, the chance for sex exists. It doesn't matter how much sex ed you teach your child. You can talk to your child about sex seven days a week for two hours a day. When your child is out of your sight and around her little boyfirend who looks good, smells good, and is saying all the right things, the last thing some of them will be thinking about is you. How many times have we let our body parts do the thinking? Now add that on top of hormones and being a teenager and see what you get. Again, no different than us when we were that age. No different! I really don't know where I stand on this birth control thing. Thank God I don't have any daughters but I do have two boys. If it came down to it, I would rather teach them about safe sex rather than just teaching them abstinence(sp). Meaning that I would teach them about both. If you just teach them about not having sex and never about what they should do should they encounter sex...in which many will no matter if they are Christains or not, then your missing out and so is your child! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 What I am saying is that sure, it may help if they are raised in a Christian home but many times, if a girl wants to have sex, they will. It does not matter if they are "Christains" or "Bums". Peer pressure may be handled a little differently by "SOME" young Christains both biblically and spirtually but when the hormones kick in, not much can stop it except for hope and prayer. You nailed part of this in your reply Mike, but only part and that is about peer pressure. Peer pressure is nasty, and in schools where there are problems with teen or young child pregnancy giving birth control to curb that problem is simply not the answer and will not accomplish the goals they are seeking. Parents can do their best to prepare kids to deal with the pressures out there, but ultimately it is going to be the kids decisions. Will the kids raised with poor values have a better sense of right and wrong than a kid raised in a loving home with good values and parents that have lived by and set good examples? Somehow I think I will take my chances with my kids by trying my best to live what I think is a good life and show them what I feel is right and wrong and why. Whether you like it or not, what this school has done is very much so condoning those kids having sex, and when one little girl gets her pills and starts showing them off to the other kids(because that is what little girls will do), what do you think is going to happen? To think that would not encourage an increase in curiosity for those other kids in those peer groups is ignorant, and if a parent thinks their kid will not be curious is also ignorant. Parents in this situation do not even have to be notified that their kids are taking the pill. Kids at 11 are not ready to be on hormone altering drugs PERIOD, much less have the responsibility of being an adult and having to remember to take birth control pills every night. Would imagine in those schools where this type of thing happens it will only be a matter of time before a kid has forgotten to take their pills regularly and the kids gets knocked up, then what? What about the kids who now think because they are on the pill that they can just do it and everything will be ok, but they hook up with a kid with HIV? Does an 11 year old really have the capacity to even fully comprehend all this? Some adults do not. I just dont think this is in any way a good idea and I think what this school has done is very dangerous for its students. As far as Steve's remark on Christianity and how it has an effect on kids, maybe I took what he said wrong, but my take was that kids raised in homes with values with Christianity and a strong teaching of right and wrong, that the kids are less likely to be involved in activity that they should not be, than those who live in sin and raise their kids in a way that promotes or encourages sexual activity. Kids learn what they live, and setting an example for them to live by will have an effect on them, whether that effect is positive or negative depends on the parent, and unfortunately some self proclaimed Christians are just that and they may very well not set the best examples for their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I agree with William 100%. The biggest problem with our society these days, is that we are trying to cover up the consequences of immorality with all these little band-aids and too many parents these days have the opinion that children can raise themselves. We're seeing the product of that thinking, more and more on the news, and it's only going to get worse. Seems like anything goes these days, as long as we have a fix for the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I really see this as two different issues. One is whether or not 11 year olds should have access to birth control without (or even with) their parent's knowledge and/or consent. And the other, in my opinion bigger, issue is whether or not our SCHOOLS should be in the birth control business in the first place. And my answer to that is an emphatic NO! Leave that to the parents and let's use our schools for what they were intended - education!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlriggins Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 OK OK let me say that I dont agree with giving 11 year old kids the pill the problem is not only pregnancy. This is telling kids that its ok not to use a condom the girl is on the pill I am curious to see the statistics of how the rate of STDs goes up in those high schools and then would like to let the lawmakers responsible for letting this happen know that they are directly or indirectly responsible for a 12 or 13 year old girl getting herpes or even worse AIDS. What is wrong with the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 William, I am not totally disagreeing with you or this topic...per se. Like I said, I don't know where I stand and if I had to make a decision, I would probably not like the fact of the school doing this type of stuff either. My kids both attend a DOD school so I doubt it will come into play at a DOD school anytime soon. My focus was on the comment made clearly about Christian kids and "Bums" having sex. My other point was that you cannot just teach your kids about abstinence either. You need to teach them about both abstinence and safe sex. That's all. I was not condoning the use of birth control at the age 11;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newarcher Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I personally think that 11 years old is too early to be discussing anything specific with regards to sex education and certainly too old to be giving out condoms. I can tell you exactly how to solve the teenage sex problem.....forced marriage at age 8. That pretty well guarantees that they will not be having sex until they can legally divorce at age 32! Nothing puts a stop to the devil's business like wedding cake! New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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