Fred's fizzlin'

[buckee]

I think New needs an anger management class.

Kind of funny that you two were agreeing with each other right up until the last few posts.

JMO

[Newarcher]

I think New needs an anger management class.

Kind of funny that you two were agreeing with each other right up until the last few posts.

JMO

Ha, hardly (anger class). I was actually being nice until the 'you and yours' comment was made.

Well that' because we are on the same side. We both dislike socialist/marxist democrats and like conservatives...especially Fred. I WANT FRED TO WIN.

But I am saying that Fred is going about it wrong and he isn't taking the correct approach. Wtnhunt seems to be blaming me because Fred isn't thriving.

New

[wtnhunt]

Wtnhunt seems to be blaming me because Fred isn't thriving.

OK, Enough is enough. I was going to let this go, but you just had to keep on. Nowhere have I blamed you for anything of the sort in this thread or anywhere in this forum, nor have I said anything to lead to the notion that Fred is not thriving, quite on the contrary if you take the time to read my posts I think I recall mentioning that Fred was at some point gaining ground on Rudy in some places where there has been polling. Afraid this thread has reached a dead end.

[buckee]

I just got back from a few hours painting outdoors Stupid thing to do this time of the year, but oh well, I'm working for someone else and it isn't one of my jobs.

Anyway, I would have locked this thread up at this point too, or maybe one or two more replies as well. Kinda got off track here, and the discussion turned sour, and is going nowhere fast. This thread started going south in post 23, not 22, when someone overreacted to what someone else said. enough already eh.

[buckee]

Post #21

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/06/wuspols106.xml

Exactly, his heart isn't in the race. Had he come out and taken the race away from Romney and Giuliani, he would be in first place.

He is talking like someone who got in the race as a joke, as a VP candidate, or as a person wanting to steer the Republicans back to the right.

Sad, but I think he is done. I don't think he has the energy and drive for this.

New

I can understand why William commented like he did on an overseas news clip.

Post #22

Yep, because an overseas paper publishes such and other papers also happen to post negative comments, we all need to abandon our hopes and start proclaiming this country as socialist republic run under Hillary. That is what you want to hear right New:(.

Really think this kind of continued negativity by you and many like you only will bring forth the doom that you so desperately see coming. A shame so many hold the same type vision and instead of trying to raise hopes, have the same attitude, and they are already giving up:( in effect essentially handing over the reigns of this country to the communist/socialist democrats. If enough believe as you, there is no sense in this country even having an election. Lets all just go on and cry and give up, it is over right, nothing anyone can do about it as it is destined to take place.

I thought William was making a broad statement here, concerning negativity.

Post #23

IT HAPPENED ON FOXNEWS wtnhunt.

Really, I think your continued denial is absolutely astounding...almost quixote-esque. I didn't give up on Fred, he gave up on himself. He was my only hope of beating Hillary so yes, I HATE to see him go. But the truth is that he has been running as if he never believed it possible. The voters are telling him--and you--that they don't like the way he is running and he--and YOU--are telling them they are wrong for feeling that way. At some point, if he plans to win, he has to come around to the way the American voter expects him to campaign--even if that is against his desires.

So I really don't care what your opinion of my statements are. You can bury your head in the sand if you would like and call everything all right but that isn't reality. The stories that are running, the voters, and even his supporters are all saying the same thing "His HEART ISN'T IN IT" and his constantly having to answer the questions about his unconventional campaign taticts is eliminating Fred from getting what little message he appears ready to share with us out. When the politician is constantly having to defend himself by saying "I ain't lazy"....he has lost already. So I would submit that your constantly telling Fred's supporters--who want nothing but for Fred to step up and take the election from Hillary--that they are wrong and chastising them for being "NEGATIVE" is really getting a might bit old.

You would call me NEGATIVE and I would say you are ARROGANT. Telling the people who it will take to put Fred in office that they are wrong and being NEGATIVE because they are voiceing legitimate concerns is the height of arrogance. Further, it will ensure that Fred isn't going to make it past the primary at this rate.

[edited to add] I think I will try your technique the next time I make a mistake at work. "No, boss, it isn't that I messed up and sent the customer a piece of software full of bugs....it is that the negativity of yourself and the client has brought about that which you most seek--a product full of bugs". I think I might try that, it is true genius.

New

Well, when I read News post #21, and his link to a foriegn newspaper, I understood exactly where William was coming from, and understood how being so negative about someone, can hurt them even more. I agree that Negativity is a self fullfilly prophecy at the best of times.

I thought you two were both in agreement up until this post, and also thought New and William both have a good agument, inspite of the name calling.

Saying someone is negative, isn't such a terrible thing in any thread, but hardly deserves the comment of being called arrogant. IMO

Name calling always makes threads go south

Steve