davetucker Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 saw the biggest buck i've ever seen.drove right to him.was driving up the field road to get in the stand wasn't even payin attention.then about 70 ft in front of us right in the woods line there he was starring at us gassed in the headlights(there automatic and it was daylight)and not moving an inch.we got out the 45-70 and fired it off only it didn't fire fumbled around with it and tryed two more times to fire would'nt fire.so we grabbed the 25-06 and my buddy fired with that(note that gun is mine and set for me not him).after the shot i was on him with my binos and he turned nonchalontly tail down and walked in the woods slowly.We searched for 6 hrs and couldn't fined him,and there was no blood trail what so ever.the woods were he is, is not that big.did we hit or did we miss.WHAT HAPPENED?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDaddy28 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Would I be correct to state that you shot a deer while in your truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Sounds to me like you and your buddy need to spend more time at the shooting range. I hope you were being legal. It wouldn't be where I'm at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 then about 70 ft in front of us right in the woods line there he was starring at us gassed in the headlights(there automatic and it was daylight)and not moving an inch . Some states are legal to hunt from a non licensed farm vehicle. Under new law here if the vehicle is unable to be licensed you can hunt from inside of it, tractor, 4 wheeler, utv, etc. Truck however, dont think so, but sounds like they got out, even still I have to wonder about a deer staring at daytime running lights during the daylight:confused:, Seems odd. we got out the 45-70 and fired it off only it didn't fire fumbled around with it and tryed two more times to fire would'nt fire.so we grabbed the 25-06 and my buddy fired with that(note that gun is mine and set for me not him).after the shot i was on him with my binos and he turned nonchalontly tail down and walked in the woods slowly Sounds like a miss to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad dryden Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I have shot at a big buck and he did kinda same thing biggest buck ive ever hunted 2 years later he was harvested, but you also could have shot him and just wounded him. Somtimes when we might have a hard time finding a down deer we bring our dogs to the area to help track them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bow_hunter101 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 My dad's biggest buck was a 10 pointer he shot from about 100 yards. When he shot he thought he hit it good, but it tucked it's tail, dropped it's head, and started walking slowly away. He rushed a second shot and clearly missed. He took a steady rest, took a third shot, and the deer dropped. When he got to the deer there were 2 bullet holes right in the kill zone. In your case, it kinda sounds like a miss, but it's very possible that you hit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Better be LEGAL where your hunting!!! If not your a poacher!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 well i guess i should have taken the extra 20 mins to tell the wole story but had to get to work they can't hang wind mills without a crane operator.but anyways he did stand right there we got OUT of the truck(my wife and kids were dropping us off not a **** idiot).think it was just buck fever i don't know how much you pple know about maine but the population of bucks is really low so when you see one that big you can't believe it and he stood right there. don't really know if it was the head lights or not but it was a gloomy morning.we've been on another one in that area but not as nice a rack as this one.my friend and i also go to the range all the time but tell me if you take my rifle and shoot your gonna be as accurate with mine as yours and i know everyone has missed once in there life.just an example last yr i hit an 8 pointer 178 lbs with a 45-70 open sights exploded the heart 70% at 225 yrds so no target practice is gonna cure buck fever.sorry if i'm babbling but i'm by far not a poacher matter of fact i turned one in last wk,and would never break the fair chase rule the only thing i might of done wrong is two things one,should've thought to turn the truck off if the headlights were the cause of him just standing there,two,should'nt have let my buddy use my riffle i should have took the shot myself!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 So if I'm reading that right, the deer was on the road, your truck was running, you were shooting from the road at a deer that was in the headlights. If that's what you were doing then around these parts you would be a poacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 So u shot a deer on a road....out of a car....so aint that poaching...and if so then i'm glad u missed, sorry to say, and look i dont care where u are hunting or where u are from, shooting deer on the road is poaching regardless of who u are or where u are.....in U.P. of Michigan we got a poor deer population too and its from people like that shooting deer out of there freaking cars and shooting them on roads (now if it was a 2-track on a large section of private property that is a little different) no prob with shooting deer on 2 tracks i hunt on one up there.....but i guess if that is what u find sporting...then what ever...but i'm glad that buck is still running around if it was road hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardwood_HD Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 i agree 100% with MichiganHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest superguide_jr Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Wow i think you guys better find a doctor and maybe he can give u somethin to calm that severe case of BUCK FEVER!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 i guess you pple only read what you want to see anyways.if you would have read the whole story and listened to it and let it play in your numb little minds it was a feild road we have lots and lots of potatoe fields i that area and there are lots of grassy FEILD ROAD not **** paved road in maine it is totaly LEGAL to shoot from agricultural roads,(dirt road,grassy roads,field roads)ttotaly legal.man this site has really bummed me out man used to loved but some pple have one track minds.was reading the thread other day about wittaker shinning at 9 at night well it is illegal at 10 but it wasn't at ten but still you pple jumped all over his **** and don't take the full story in you wanna be supper hunters are actuaLLY WHATS KILLING OUR SPORT.atleast pple like me who now that they are ametures come in here and ask for advice not ridicule the beginnner.sorry if i'm babbleing but whoever looks at this thread there is two parts to it so please look harder and read the whole thing play it out and you will see that it was nothing illegal about anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Think everyone needs to calm down and give this guy the benefit of the doubt here, unless you know for certainty the game laws where he is at. Past few years this very state has had some changes to laws that have left me shaking my head and would probably surprise some folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad dryden Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Sorry My Caps Wont Turn Off But I Know Exactly What Your Say And I Have Noticed This Alot Somtimes Some Do Jump The Gun I Have Had It Happen To Me Once Before Thats Why I Write Every Detail I Can But Dont Let This Bumb You Out Just Somtimes Stuff Gets Miss Iturprited But I Understand What You Are Saying And You Were Legal About It But Just Remimber When You Post Somthing About Shooting At A Deer Or A Post Like This Try Not To Leave Anything Out It Makes It Easier For Everyone Good Luck To You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 On this particular sight talking openly about doing something illigal will get you banned pretty quickly. The whole legal thing is something pretty important that you need to take the time to point out. Any time "road" "lights" "truck" is in the same conversation as shooting at a deer, the first thing most folks are going to say is. "This guy's a poacher". Sorry if I upset you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 yeah well your probably one of those tree huggers that go by land in a different state then post it and expect to hunt on other peoples land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 On this particular sight talking openly about doing something illigal will get you banned pretty quickly. The whole legal thing is something pretty important that you need to take the time to point out. Any time "road" "lights" "truck" is in the same conversation as shooting at a deer, the first thing most folks are going to say is. "This guy's a poacher". That shouldn't happen though. People ought to take the time to try to verify facts before automatically yelling poacher. You know what happens when you assume. On the other hand, if the members would fill in their info on where they are from, and also tell the full story so it doesn't come across wrong, that would eliminate a number of the accusations. (this isn't directed towards you Johnf, but to all of the members here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 yeah well your probably one of those tree huggers that go by land in a different state then post it and expect to hunt on other peoples land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 is there an echo in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 On this particular sight talking openly about doing something illigal will get you banned pretty quickly. The whole legal thing is something pretty important that you need to take the time to point out. Any time "road" "lights" "truck" is in the same conversation as shooting at a deer, the first thing most folks are going to say is. "This guy's a poacher". Sorry if I upset you. Unfortunately John some places have rules or laws or lack of that we might not all understand. Tennessee passed law a few years ago that allowed for actually hunting from a motorized vehicle so long as that vehicle was not able to be licensed to drive on the road and the vehicle was stationary. I will have to check to be sure, but I think they also passed to allow for hunting from private roadways where the roads were not within any limitations(city limits or ordinances) granted the person was shooting from a place where they had permission and not within 100 yards plain view of any dwelling. Unfortunately I do not agree with the rule changes, but I am aware of them and while it may seem like poaching, we need to be a bit careful about slamming another hunter without full knowing what their regs may say. This guy may be doing what is entirely legal where he is. I am pretty sure here it would be legal as he described, all except the part about the headlights, which is funny because shining is NOT legal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bow_hunter101 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I have noticed alot of slamming people on here because of "suspected" poachers. But the way I see it, if somebody is serious enough about hunting to get on the Realtree website, register, and post about their hunting trips I kinda give them the benefit of the doubt that they aren't a poacher. Around here the poachers use their window as a gun rest, their headlights so they can see the deer at night, and have probably never even heard of Realtree camo. I know for sure they aren't on here celebrating the pureness of the sport and sharing ethical hunting stories. A poacher isn't gonna log on to this site and say "Hey everybody let me tell you 'bout this big buck I poached last night!!" Maybe I'm being nieve, but I'm just trying to give the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FL-Cracker Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I'm gonna have to agree with bowhunter101. I was tracking Dave when he said they got out of the truck the first time and the second and third... Poachers aren't gonna be on here asking for advice neither I wouldn't think. Maybe you guys should've been a little more quick to offer some advice, not shun Dave for his lack of details and say things like he needs to spend more time at the range, etc. If you haven't missed, you're not a hunter. How do you know that anyone that posts a pic of their harvest didn't poach them on a firehunt? You don't.....so why don't we just give him the benefit of the doubt here. Dave, I think you missed from the way you explained it but you won't know until you see him again.. I had a similar occurrence with my black powder gun last week. The buck jumped up, kicked his back legs out, then walked off with his tail tucked. It was about a 170 yards shot so I think the bullet dropped and he jumped the gun. I searched for hours as well and didn't find any blood. Luckily another member of our club saw him the following afternoon to rest my nerves a little but you still gotta give it due diligence and search. I've recovered deer that didn't have a drop of blood on the ground... I imagine he's still out there. Good luck finding him and getting the .45-70 uncorked. Don't listen to these folks that are quick to judge. They're only pushing hunters away from our way of life when we all need to stick together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 ... How do you know that anyone that posts a pic of their harvest didn't poach them on a firehunt? ... What's a "firehunt?" And I go along with it sounding like a miss. While I'm sure there are exceptions, every deer I've hit with a high power rifle has either fallen over right there, staggered a few steps and fell over, or took off running. Never had one nonchalantly walk away and then die later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 saw the biggest buck i've ever seen.drove right to him.was driving up the field road to get in the stand wasn't even payin attention.then about 70 ft in front of us right in the woods line there he was starring at us gassed in the headlights(there automatic and it was daylight)and not moving an inch.we got out the 45-70 and fired it off only it didn't fire fumbled around with it and tryed two more times to fire would'nt fire.so we grabbed the 25-06 and my buddy fired with that(note that gun is mine and set for me not him).after the shot i was on him with my binos and he turned nonchalontly tail down and walked in the woods slowly.We searched for 6 hrs and couldn't fined him,and there was no blood trail what so ever.the woods were he is, is not that big.did we hit or did we miss.WHAT HAPPENED?????? So then using an artificial light source to shoot deer is legal in Maine??? i guess you pple only read what you want to see anyways.if you would have read the whole story and listened to it and let it play in your numb little minds it was a feild road we have lots and lots of potatoe fields i that area and there are lots of grassy FEILD ROAD not **** paved road in maine it is totaly LEGAL to shoot from agricultural roads,(dirt road,grassy roads,field roads)ttotaly legal.man this site has really bummed me out man used to loved but some pple have one track minds.was reading the thread other day about wittaker shinning at 9 at night well it is illegal at 10 but it wasn't at ten but still you pple jumped all over his **** and don't take the full story in you wanna be supper hunters are actuaLLY WHATS KILLING OUR SPORT.atleast pple like me who now that they are ametures come in here and ask for advice not ridicule the beginnner.sorry if i'm babbleing but whoever looks at this thread there is two parts to it so please look harder and read the whole thing play it out and you will see that it was nothing illegal about anything This is some of the problem trying to figure out WHAT your saying!!! On this particular sight talking openly about doing something illigal will get you banned pretty quickly. The whole legal thing is something pretty important that you need to take the time to point out. Any time "road" "lights" "truck" is in the same conversation as shooting at a deer, the first thing most folks are going to say is. "This guy's a poacher". Sorry if I upset you. Yes! Anytime you use these words in your story is a BAD IDEA!!! We do not know your states rules! Which is YOUR mistake! All I am saying is you need to explain that you were legal while going about your hunting activity! You just can not post stories like this and not have anyone guess as too whether you were playing by the rules! PERIOD! I too apologize if I upset you, that wasn't my intentions! But shooting deer in the dark with an artificial light source is poaching where I come from! Might be legal where you live, but we don't know this! Are you getting this now? You have to better explain your story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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