PotashRLS Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I shot my TC Encore this weekend and decided to try the Winchester 777 209 primers. Boy were they dirty!!!!! I couldn't believe it. After six shots the entire breech end of my barrel and down inside the break action above the trigger assembly was black as night. I quit shooting because I ran out of patches. That was Saturday. Sunday I started again with a clean gun and stuck with my original 209 primers (also Winchester). The difference was significant. The original primers were much cleaner and I put two 300gr. super glides 2" above the bull at 50 yards. On Saturday the 6 shots were lucky to stay inside a 6" circle. I am shooting 120gr. of American Pioneer FFG. Has anyone else had similar results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I am shooting 120gr. of American Pioneer FFG. Has anyone else had similar results? Tried the shockey's gold stuff here last year and my black diamonod did not like it at all, inconsistent groups and the stuff was not as clean as I expected it to be. Went back to loose pyro in my load that has worked well for me of 120 grains loose pyro powder. Using the hot remington percussion caps here and never had any issues with hangfires or misfires, "works dont fix it". Dont personally care for the 209 primers as they are a bit of trouble to get on and off the nipple with my scoped black diamond. Do plan to try on some triple 7 next year, but for now still have quite a bit of pyrodex and it has proven time and time again for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 I used the 777 seven primers in both my smokepoles, and had experienced the same as you...dirty. I have found out that both of my ML's are finicky. One likes ONLY 90grs. pyrodex RS with standard 209 primers. That is my T/C ThunderHawk, a PITA to clean. My CVA Wolf loves the 777 stuff, primers and pellets. Shockeys Gold:(...had inconsistant velocities and it too was not as clean as I expected it to be. If the gun shoots it good, I'd shoot it. Regardless of cleaning. Sure, easy clean up is a positive. But as long as it is not corrosive. Let 'er rip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coop2564 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 I've been using the win t7 primers they do seem to produce a blacker fouling not sure if its dirtier though, but they did lesson the crud ring in my Omega and my accuracy was very good. It all cleaned up fine with no more patches than normal for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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