davetucker Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 i have mixed feelings about this one.i confronted a guy yesterday about his hunting practices.My beef is he has a big family and he shoots all the deer and his family tags out.he's one of them heater hunters who if see a deer in a field he pulls over opens the door leens over the hood and deer dies.why can't he track them,find the trails,watch were there bedding and hunt one the sportsman way.agree or not the fun of hunting is the preparation of your stand,blind,etc..watching and waiting for the big one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stranger2u_19 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 i dont think its wrong for him to have them tag um out if hes got a big family and keeps the meat but the way hes taking them is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodshed Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I always thought you can't use somebody else's tag. If you could do that, we all would be able to shoot numerous bucks annually whether our family members hunted or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccwhitey Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I dont like his method at all but he has the right to take all the deer he wants sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask-Hunter Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I know my neighbour is aboriginal and he is about 48 and he got a moose a month back in archery season with a rifle, It is legal and all, and what he says about it is sporting or not im putting meat on my familys table. Real good guy, shoots only as much as he needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 it is illegal here in Nova Scotia for someone to tag a deer that they did not shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Hmmm is that a way I would hunt...definitely not. Is he legal? I don't know your states rules. In NY if you get out of the vehicle, with a already unloaded weapon, unless you have a pistol permit, load it,step off the road and shoot. You are legal. I know someone who took a nice buck that way a few years ago. He didn't need it to eat, it was just braggin' rights. The guy who is shootin to eat...as long as he is legal, may be unethical, but legal. Is he trespassing to get the deer he shoots? Thats a key factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dont think tag sharing is legal here either, but I know of someone who does it just to kill more bucks and keep on hunting after he should be done. If it could be proven I would turn him in in a heartbeat. Far as the other aspect of this with road hunting, dont know your regs, but a recent post of yours here, seems you said it was ok so long as it was field roads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Sounds to me like he's breaking more than just a couple of laws. It's illegal to transfer tags from one person to another. It's illegal to shoot from a road. Plus he probably travels with a loaded gun in his vehical just like the yahoo poachers do. He's certainly not a hunter...he's a shooter. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 He's certainly not a hunter...he's a shooter. JMO I'm not sure you can put it any better than that. If it's not his land, that is terribly sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Far as the other aspect of this with road hunting, dont know your regs, but a recent post of yours here, seems you said it was ok so long as it was field roads? ya it is ok to shoot from gravel roads,field roads,ect...but the point i was making was in maine you have to be totally out of the vehicle and in no way can you use the vehical for a rest for your weapon,also his family tagging out his deer is illegal in maine you can only have one deer per year and it has to be a buck,you can get a doe if you get your name in a drawing and then that is all you can get 1 deer.me my whole family is involved and they all shoot at the range with me every sunday,if they don't hunt they don't get their deer plain and simple.I know my thread last wk was kinda fast put and maybe i should have said it a little more clearer,but i believe in fair chase and thats why i got so furiated at me being called a poacher and if i was i would desrve all the critasisam.How many deer can you get i other states??Am looking to go hunt somewhere out of state after i finally get my deer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 his methods are surely not right and illegal. But if my family was starving, and needed meat who knows what i might do to put that meat on the table.i may resort to that, we all might. Dont know until the circumstance come. i put my time in the woods, scout, track, try to do everything right. I abide by all laws when hunting. And try to instill the same in others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 In Illinois, you can't have a loaded gun in your truck and you have to be at least 50 yards off of a road to shoot a gun. You can shoot as many deer as you have permits here in IL. For bow permits, which are over the counter, this can equal into a lot of deer. However, only two bucks are allowed all year for all weapons combined. Here is the ILDNR website for you to look at if you're interested: http://www.dnr.state.il.us/admin/systems/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 How many deer can you get i other states?? Dont come here, this state is to the opposite extreme. Limits on does or antlerless deer in the county I hunt is liberal and you are allowed 3 deer a day for the duration of the season. You are allowed 3 bucks total statewide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 what?? Dont come here, this state is to the opposite extreme. Limits on does or antlerless deer in the county I hunt is liberal and you are allowed 3 deer a day for the duration of the season. You are allowed 3 bucks total statewide. sounds better then 1 deer of any sex.wow why not come there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 The question of is he a poacher or not really depends on your state's laws. If he were in Texas, the only illegal part would be the use of another persons tag. But I believe there are some states that allow party hunting. In Texas if he is on a road on private property it is legal to shoot out of the vehicle. Keep in mind, that Texas is almost all privately owned. Not the same though if he is on a public road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Aside from the tag issue, the loaded gun in the vehicle issue, the shooting from a road issue, whether it be private or public, he's a poacher. His MO says poacher, and he is shooting deer on land he does not have permission to hunt...obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMAworks4me Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 I agree that he is a poacher/shooter. I put my time in the woods and I saw 16 bucks this year and shot the 16th one. I don't think that just because you need to feed your family that you have the right to break the rest of the laws. In a way that is like saying it is ok to rob a convient store because you need the money to feed your family, laws are laws!! He needs to find a piece of property that he can hunt, spend the time in the woods and fill the tags that way. I personally hate the fact that people share tags that are not theirs, it's against the law and its not fair to the people who follow the rules. Get your family involved and let them go out and fill their own tags. I bet they get a certain satisfaction out of providing food for the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 My grandparents live in Norteastern Maine, A lot of people hunt that way up there. If you talk to them(locals) about scouting, setting up stands, finding trails etc....they think you are crazy. I think it has a lot to do with how you are raised and taught. Do I do it? Heck no. I don't think it is very ethicial and will raise my children the same. It's up to us to educate our young ones so this kind of "hunting" doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 If he's breaking any game laws he's a poacher. Like was said earlier game laws are real laws not just something the game warden makes up. He may as well be shoplifting. If he wants that many deer he should at least teach his kids to hunt, after all who's going to poach dinner if he gets hurt? We have a 4 deer limit in Arkansas. 3 in my zone with a two buck or 2 doe limit. It's 2 buck for the whole state, some zones are 4 doe limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Interestingly enough there was a piece on the news here just last night on this topic. A twra official(warden) said the biggest excuse they hear when they catch violators, is that the road shooters or poachers tell them that they have hunted hard all year and not had any luck. All I could think was what a lame excuse. They did go on to give a warning that when caught punishment can range up to a year in prison. The limits here are so liberal it is sick really to think anyone would ever have any reason to violate the laws even if they felt like they had a family to feed, but they still do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Years that I hunt real hard and don't get a deer I generally just buy more beef. In Arkansas if you get caught road hunting or spotlighting and hunting, you lose your vehicle and all it's contents, your gun, a loss of hunting and fishing privilages for 3 years, and possibiblity of a $5000 fine and1 year in prison. We don't take road hunting lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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