how many pounds?

[horst]

Im just curious if theres a certain amount of draw needed for mechanical broadheads to open properly?My sons shooting a lower draw weight and were having trouble getting fixed blades to group well with it and I have several packs of mechanicals laying here he can use.

[wtnhunt]

Dont know much about mechanicals. What heads are you using Chris? My wife has shot muzzy 3 blade 100 grain heads with her setup, drawing somewhere around 45 lbs and they grouped just fine.

[Hardwood_HD]

im not sure what the poundage should be, but i used to shoot spitfires with my 50lb pse.. i never did shoot a deer with it becuase i only used it one season so i dont know how well they worked, you cant really tell if they open or not when they are in a target

[horst]

Weve tried several different heads {fixed blade} and none seem to group well.Most of the problems with the bow itself, its a really short older Hoyt youth model, while the bow goes up to 54 lbs draw weight the risers very short on it and by the time you get the sights and rest on it theres not a lot of room for adjustment.If you get the rest down where it should be it rubs the back of your hand and really throw the shot off, if you raise it the sight pins got to be clear to the top of the sight, theres virtually no in between.Where his field points group well I cant seem to get it adjusted enough to make the fixed blades group right.He has missed 4 deer this week already, one was a huge buck and hes getting rather disgusted.

I dont want to spend any more money on this bow for accesories as hes going to be getting a new one next year since hes definately outgrowing this one and the ones were looking at come all set up already.Ive even had a guy that sets bows up for a living try to tweak this one so itll shoot right and he couldnt do it.

[elkoholic]

If he is shooting the bow at 50+ lbs then the mechanical heads will work just fine. I would avoid severe quartering shots as penetration may not be sufficient. If he is missing deer completely (at what range?) there must be more to it than how the bow is grouping with fixed blades. If he is not shooting at anything beyond whatever range he can get at least six inch groups then grouping size should not be an issue. I prefer two inch groups or smaller but I know a few guys who couldn't shoot groups much under six inches to save their lives and they fill the freezer every year. It definitely sounds like he needs a new bow.

[hoytman26]

I called rage broadheads in september because my wife shoots 47 pounds and I asked them the minimum draw weight needed to shoot the rage and they told me they open up even at 30#. My wife has yet to shoot them just because I have 2 blade magnus right now. I dont know about 30# seems low to me but at 40# I could see them opening just because they open so easy. 1 lung and a 2" hole is better than 1 lung and a 1 1/4" hole. Good luck!!!!

[Guest bowhunter56]

Chris, if you want a fixed blade to shoot like a field point, i would highly recommend the 100 Gr. G5, striker, i have shot them and they fly perfect.

[horst]

If he is shooting the bow at 50+ lbs then the mechanical heads will work just fine. I would avoid severe quartering shots as penetration may not be sufficient. If he is missing deer completely (at what range?) there must be more to it than how the bow is grouping with fixed blades. If he is not shooting at anything beyond whatever range he can get at least six inch groups then grouping size should not be an issue. I prefer two inch groups or smaller but I know a few guys who couldn't shoot groups much under six inches to save their lives and they fill the freezer every year. It definitely sounds like he needs a new bow.

We started off shooting some broaheads someone gave us, I didnt realize how cheaply made they were and the chisel points actually bent slightly while shooting them at targets, it wasnt real noticable but it makes them drop like a rock at about 15 yards, i figured that out last night after looking at one he missed with, the chisel point came almost completely off and the blades were almost falling out.That was just from hitting the plowing

But your right theres more to it, I think he may be rushing a little on the shot and after a few misses hes kinda screwed himself up mentally like buck fever but hes expecting to miss.Its not all in the bow, I know that much anyway,were gonna skip hunting tonight and just shoot for fun, maybe thatll cheer him up and get his mind off deer a little:)

[Guest madabouthuntin]

I'm not sure what the laws are in your state regarding the length of the broadhead, but if you can use them, I suggest you try the Sonic Broadheads by American Broadhead Company. They give you the best flight out of every broadhead I have tried and they are a fixed blade with more than plenty of penetration, even with lower draw weights. If you can use these heads, I would Highly recomend using them! It's what I use and swear by!!! Good Luck!!

Steve

[PotashRLS]

I would tell ya to try the Grim Reaper 75gr 1 1/8" expandable. I surely wouldn't go with a 1 1/2" or bigger with lighter poundage. I would say 40lbs and under 20 yards should work just fine. I do agree that it is a bow issue and fitting him with the right one may take care of all the problems. You must have a properly fitting bow to have any type of consistency in your shooting skills. That is a hard thing to do with kids when they grow so fast. Good luck.