TCFORLIFE Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm looking to purchase a new scope and I was wondering if anybody here could tell me anything about them from experience. I'm looking for something that's going to do well in low light conditions. This scope will be used mainly for hunting only, so my next question is what power scope will give me the best field of view in low light. I also like to punch paper as well. Most shots in the field will be kept under 300 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCFORLIFE Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Zeiss 6-24X56MM VM/V W/Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle 5216959943 Rifle Scopes PREV Rifle Scopes | NEXT Rifle Scopes Rifle Scopes Buyers Guide Zeiss Rifle Scopes Back to Catalog Retail Price: $2,385.00Our Price: $1,994.00You Save: $391.00 Shipping: $15.95 Add to Cart Questions? Call 1-800-346-6905 Rifle Scope Reticle Chart How To Sight In Your Rifle Scope Model Number:5216959943Weight (oz):31.75 Obj Lappetur (mm):56Length (in):14.84Eye Relief (mm):3.15Click Value (in@100yds/mm@100m):Exit Pupil (mm):9.3/2.3Adj. Range (in@100yds/m@100m):.6Rifle Scopes Features:Zeiss 6-24X56MM VM/V W/Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticl - 5216959943 With the Diavari V 6-24x56 T*, Zeiss presents a new riflescope for very long range. A remarkable feature in this category is the large objective lens diameter of 56 mm, which offers a clear and brilliant image even in poor light. Other interesting features, some of them exclusive, are: Reticle in the second image plane, so its size remains constant across the entire power range. At high magnifications little of the target is concealed -- an advantage when sighting small targets at great distances. Very large adjustment range for the reticle of up to 160 cm at 100 m. This makes sighting-in easier at long range. Precise reticle adjustment with clickstop mechanism in steps of 0.5 cm at 100 m. Bullet drop compensator fitted as standard. Mil Dot reticle available. Illuminated reticle available for shooting accurately in low light -- an option exclusive to riflescopes in this performance category. Parallax adjustment from 49.2 yds to infinity via a knob on the side PREV I THINK THIS ONE MIGHT BE ON THE LIST. I LIKE THE 56 MM OBJECTIVE, BUT I DONT KNOW IF THE POWER IS GOING TO BE TO MUCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 $2000 for a scope? Your kidding right? The power of the scope is not the light gathering capability. Its the front objective and the lens. Although, I will never pay that kind of money for a scope, so I have no experience with Zeiss. I will say this, 30 minutes after sunset, my Nikon still allows me to see very clearly! JMO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 This scope will be used mainly for hunting only, so my next question is what power scope will give me the best field of view in low light. The objective of the scope has to do with how much light it gathers, the power of the scope at its lowest would have the most transferred light, but the actual power has nothing to do with how bright the scope is. In other words if you are shooting a 3-9X40 scope it will be its brightest when it is dim set to the lowest power or 3 power, but the light transmitted will only be as much as the 40mm objective has coming in. I will say this, 30 minutes after sunset, my Nikon still allows me to see very clearly! JMO! Same here. Been very happy with the nikon scopes hard to beat in my opinion for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I have a Leupold and a Nikon scope. Very happy with both and couldn't imagine a Zeiss being $1700 better than my Leupold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehunter Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I have to agree, all my rifles are topped with Nikon scopes and never had a problem seeing during legal hunting hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCFORLIFE Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I have two nikon buckmasters now but they only have the 40mm objective. I wouldn't pay that much either. I was just looking around. I'll have to look and see what nikon has. I have the 3x9x40 and the 4.5x14x40 with side focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Seminole Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 I'm looking to purchase a new scope and I was wondering if anybody here could tell me anything about them from experience. I'm looking for something that's going to do well in low light conditions. This scope will be used mainly for hunting only, so my next question is what power scope will give me the best field of view in low light. I also like to punch paper as well. Most shots in the field will be kept under 300 yards. TC Zeiss has 2 scope lines. The 1" tube version called the Conquest & a 30mm tube called the Diavari line. The Diavari line are probably the best if not the best hunting optics on earth in low light. The Conquest line is directed more toward the American hunter. For those that cna legally hunt 1/2 hour past sunset. I suggest you go with something in the Conquest model. Someting like a 3.5-10x50. Zeiss offers different recticles with their Conquest models. I'm not trying to knock the Nikon or Leupold guys but I have a Leupold & its no comparison to the Conquest model for roughly the same price. If you are willing to spend 400-700 on a scope get a Zeiss. They are brilliant in low light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCFORLIFE Posted December 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Thanks, I'll check those out. I don't mind spending in that price range. I'm also looking into Burris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 I'm also looking into Burris. In my opinion the burris fullfield II line is not as bright in same objective scopes as the nikons. Have the 3-9X40 fullfield on my AR-15 and it is not quite as bright as the buckmaster or the monarch lines from nikon, which we have on our deer rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Seems like whenever someone says they are considering a Zeiss scope there is no shortage of folks who will try and talk you out of it. I can make it work for me just fine with Nikon, Leupold or Burris. But that doesn't mean the Zeiss stuff isn't better. If it's worth it to you then go for it. But if you are open to suggestion and you like Euro-style scopes, do yourself a favor and look at some Meoptas. They are made in the Czech republic just like CZ rifles and they are excellent values at a reasonable price. This photo was taken through my Meostar R1 4-16x44 Tactic. Distance was approximately 160yds. I literally held my digital camera behind the scope and snapped the photo. If this doesn't give you an inkling of how sharp and clear this scope is I don't know what else will convince you. Low light performance on this thing is fabulous. I'm wanting another real bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Seminole Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Seems like whenever someone says they are considering a Zeiss scope there is no shortage of folks who will try and talk you out of it. I can make it work for me just fine with Nikon, Leupold or Burris. But that doesn't mean the Zeiss stuff isn't better. If it's worth it to you then go for it. But if you are open to suggestion and you like Euro-style scopes, do yourself a favor and look at some Meoptas. They are made in the Czech republic just like CZ rifles and they are excellent values at a reasonable price. This photo was taken through my Meostar R1 4-16x44 Tactic. Distance was approximately 160yds. I literally held my digital camera behind the scope and snapped the photo. If this doesn't give you an inkling of how sharp and clear this scope is I don't know what else will convince you. Low light performance on this thing is fabulous. I'm wanting another real bad. Yeah good advice. Meoptas are great scopes to!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCFORLIFE Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Where can I find some info on the Meoptas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Where can I find some info on the Meoptas? Here http://www.meopta.com/index.php?id=17〈=en And since Cabela's now carries them you can also go here and read some reviews on them. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=netcon&id=0028448712159a&navCount=1&podId=0028448712159&parentId=cat601567&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=XH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601567&hasJS=true The picture I posted above is reduced quality for the internet and doesn't really do the scope justice. Try and take a photo through someone else's scope though and see how that looks. Camera guys take photos of the same subject through different lenses all the time to compare them. A cheap lense will often look good, just looking through it but a side by side comparison really uncovers the differences. A riflescope is in reality a lense setup so this little photo stunt really IS USEFUL. I will also say this. If I was in the back row at a Cher concert I could probably read the serial numbers off of all her new body parts through that scope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Have read good things about the meopta, think they were on a list of better scopes that AJ had posted about quite some time ago. Like Leo said, cabelas does carry them. If you are planning to spend the extra on the meopta or the zeiss conquest, dont think you could go wrong from what I have read on reviews on them, but still the nikons for the money are hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCFORLIFE Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I've been looking around and I think I'm going to look at a couple of the Ziess scopes. I want this scope for next season so I'll have plenty of time to save. I've heard from a few people who own them and they say that its the best scope they have ever owned. I've always liked Nikon, and I own a couple, but there's always room for improvement. Thanks for the helpful info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strubedog Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Kahles, Ziess and Meopta are better then leuopolds and nikons hands down. I have a leopold and am looking to get rid of it. If I couldn't get a Kahles or Ziess, bushnell elite 4200 is the next best thing that is less money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntrout Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 How come noone uses swarovski? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousoonerfan22 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I would love to have a Swarovski but they're way out of my price range. The Zeiss conquest 3.5-10x50 is one of the most clear and bright scopes I've looked through,I hope to have one on my Ruger no.1 .270 soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Seminole Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 How come noone uses swarovski? Swarovski optics are also top notch but Swarovski doesn't have an assembly plant here in the USA like Zeiss. Swaro American line scopes start at 1,000$ where the Zeiss Conquest starts at 399$. Zeiss is able to cut the cost considerably in their Conquest line because they get tax breaks for employing American workers. They make the parts of the Conquest line but its assembled here in America. Another reason Swarovski scopes are more pricey is because they are very aggressive with advertising their products. Nothing wrong with their scopes though. In fact they make 1 heck of a scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 i think if you can afford it go for it.don't think for a minute if i could i wouldn't put a 2000 dollar scope on my riffles.but nikkon is a great scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CMitchell Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 The last scope I bought was between a Conquest and a Nikon Monarch. I must have looked through both for an hour inside and outside. Both were excellent. Can't go wrong with either one. I only chose the Monarch because they had it in the size I wanted and it was the last day of the sale. That said, my next scope will be a Conquest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Everyone is selling the Conquest 3-9x40 for $399. If you do a little research it's possible to get them for $329. I just bought three of them. They are the best scope you can get for under $400 and the competition isn't even close. Let's see what Leupold does to counteract this invasion from Zeiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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