Guest Leeman Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Anyone have any good information on leading a Deer running Mach 5, say 60 yards out broadside? Equipment includes a Rem Wingmaster 12 Guage, fully rifled Cantilever barrel, Leupold 1x4, Rem Premier® Core-Lokt® Ultra Bonded Sabot Slugs I know there are many variables but a general guide would be great. Or point me to some reference..... Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I know there are many variables but a general guide would be great. Or point me to some reference..... Yeah you don't! Very bad shot! You take more chances of just injuring the deer than having a good clean ethical shot. JMHO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bowhunter56 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Why, take the chance of making a bad shot...not fair to the animal, to wound it, then have it run off and die.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boiler room Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 hope you are not serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leeman Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I appreciate and understand the question of ethical kills. There are articles about Rifles and leading just looking for information! Not looking for bashing! And yes, I am very serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 You yell out Mwaaaaaaaaaa, and it stops him in his tracks for a good shot. If the first one doesn't work, do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airman312 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 You yell out Mwaaaaaaaaaa, and it stops him in his tracks for a good shot. If the first one doesn't work, do it again. Hey buckee...did you spell that right????????:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Not looking for bashing! And yes, I am very serious. Nobody is bashing! I also believe we are serious too, you just don't take that kind of shot. This is the kind of info the ANTI's love to hear about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hey buckee...did you spell that right????????:D:D Thanks for catching that...eh. It's Mwaaaaaaaaah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonLester Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Like others have said its a risky shot ...to risky to take. Bleat, wistle, yell 'hey' .. sometimes they will stop in thier tracks. But be ready they won't usualy stop for long. Leading on a running deer isn't worth pulling the trigger. 99 percent of the time you'll miss or wound an animal and never recover it. One of the biggest mistakes people make when they shoot a deer to make them loose it is not to really pay attention after pulling the trigger. You need to be sure of where you hit the animal. You need to watch and listen and see exactly what happens with the animal. where it goes how it acts etc. If the deer is already running things get blurred realy easily. Did I really hit it. Did it go down because I hit it or did it loose its footing because of being scared by the shot? Blood isn't always evedent at the place you shot the animal. How good of a tracker are you. How long do you wait before trailing the animal. All these things and more depend on what happend the second you pulled the trigger and the seconds after. A gut shot or wounded deer can go a long ways. Eventualy dieing a long painfull death. I figure I owe it to the animal to be a better hunter than that. No matter how big the animal is and how much I want to shoot I have to make myself think before pulling the trigger. Not to mention when a deer is running you have less time to know what is behind your intended target (other people) To risky for me. Any yes I have passed on these shots before on some really nice animals. I might have gotten lucky but I had a better chance going home knowing I wounded one only to let it suffer and die. Make your own decitions. But be aware of all the posibilities. Being a hunter requires alot of resposibility. To the animals, and to other hunters. Just my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Like others have said its a risky shot ...to risky to take. Bleat, wistle, yell 'hey' .. sometimes they will stop in thier tracks. But be ready they won't usualy stop for long. Leading on a running deer isn't worth pulling the trigger. 99 percent of the time you'll miss or wound an animal and never recover it. One of the biggest mistakes people make when they shoot a deer to make them loose it is not to really pay attention after pulling the trigger. You need to be sure of where you hit the animal. You need to watch and listen and see exactly what happens with the animal. where it goes how it acts etc. If the deer is already running things get blurred realy easily. Did I really hit it. Did it go down because I hit it or did it loose its footing because of being scared by the shot? Blood isn't always evedent at the place you shot the animal. How good of a tracker are you. How long do you wait before trailing the animal. All these things and more depend on what happend the second you pulled the trigger and the seconds after. A gut shot or wounded deer can go a long ways. Eventualy dieing a long painfull death. I figure I owe it to the animal to be a better hunter than that. No matter how big the animal is and how much I want to shoot I have to make myself think before pulling the trigger. Not to mention when a deer is running you have less time to know what is behind your intended target (other people) To risky for me. Any yes I have passed on these shots before on some really nice animals. I might have gotten lucky but I had a better chance going home knowing I wounded one only to let it suffer and die. Make your own decitions. But be aware of all the posibilities. Being a hunter requires alot of resposibility. To the animals, and to other hunters. Just my 2 cents worth. GREAT POINTS!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Welcome to the forums. Would do the best I can to try and stop the deer if at all possible. The difference in ml, rifle, and shotgun at that close proximity is not going to be very significant. Have you ever tried following a deer in your scope at that type of distance when they are in a full run in the conditions of where you hunt(wooded or field)? If not, might give it a try just to see what keeping with them takes. I did kill a moving deer this year with the ml at about 130-140 yards, but the deer was moving slow when I fired, and I shot with no lead. Actually got that kill on video. On a moving(walking) deer I pick a spot where I want to shoot and get good and steady and squeeze when the deer walks into the spot just as soon as the vitals enter my crosshairs. Do not personally think leading a deer is in any way a good idea, especially not if it is running, too much potential for a bad shot. Did see an episode of game trails or another show on the outdoor channel I believe where the segment you "call the shots" or something like that featured a pretty long shot on a running deer. Larry Weishuhn was hunting and he had a situation with a nice deer running, Larry took the shot, but he did say that he had many years of practice on small game and that he was very comfortable with the shot he took, the other two hosts said they would not have taken the shot if I remember right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Gotta agree with all of the above. VERY POOR shot selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yoders_hideaway Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 This is one of the reasons why i hate when gun season comes in! Oh look there goes another deer and why is he walking with a limp? Not a good shot selection IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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