Deer Dogging


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I know this topic may have been beaten to death in the past on this forum, but I just read nastynissans post and wanted to see..

I am a deer dogger too, I have 10 walker hounds..I still hunt as well, done both all my life.

What do yal think about hunting with dogs? I know there is good and bad guys in it, and it is easy to get a bad name in our hunting ways, but on the whole what do you think about running deer with dogs?

thanks

nasty..always like reading your posts over on the southern dog hunter's forum...:D

happy and safe huntin to all

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If you have enough land and control your hounds then I have no problem with it.

Our problem is neighbors with 10 acres drop the dogs out then they run all over our 1500 acres. Our club is still hunting only. We had 4 trucks on our property "looking" for their dogs Saturday afternoon. I wasn't there when one of the members found them, but it wasn't a pretty exchange. Our local DNR is stretched so thin that they really aren't much help either.

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Deer Hunting with dogs is a tradition in many parts of the south.... Folks have been hunting with dogs since before most of us where born.... Alot of folks think that dog hunting is the lazy deer hunters way and if somebody thinks that is the case, just go with me or anybody that dog hunts the right way for a day and I guarantee your opinion will be changed.... It takes ALOT of work to maintain a good pack of hounds during the off-season as well as during hunting-season.... It cost alot of money but we do it because we enjoy it and it is worth all the work that goes with keeping those hounds.... There is absolutley no other rush like hearing some hounds burning the hair off a deer on a frosty december morning and then all of a sudden the deer turns and they are heading towards you.... I guarantee you wont find a better adrenaline rush anywhere in the hunting world.... Im not bashing anybody's way of hunting by any means but before anybody says its not right or its the lazy way to hunt or anything wrong against it, I offer them to try it just one time before they make up their mind.... Our gun-season last from October-January here in NC and anybody wanting to give it a shot to see what its really all about is welcome to come with me and Im sure ncwhiteoak feels the same way as I do.... Please note that Im not saying anybody has bashed dog hunting on this forum, but I know how these topics usually end up on most forums, I figured Id say my part before it came to that....-timrussell

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It is the only way to hunt many areas here in south carolina. I do hate those who violate others property.

I am not sure I understand that statement. What areas are you referring to? I have hunted everywhere in SC from the mountains to the coast, and I have not found 1 place yet that I couldn't set up in and still hunt for deer. Some places definitely take more work than others, but I can hunt them all.

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All I can say is that by not doing it I can't understand it. But I will add this, if you are within the confines of the law, I say go ahead.

We drive deer in pa, this is a practice looked down on by some, but a truly ethical way to hunt if done properly.

We have enough people against hunting, we don't need a seperation within our own brother hood.

I like hunting rabbits with hounds, I'd say hunting deer with them would be alright.

Jeff

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For those of you who know nothing about it, dog driving has 2 types that do it. One is a very respectful and law abiding hunter who usually has a fairly large amount of property ( a few thousand acres). I am not saying it can't be done on smaller land, but the chance of your dogs getting on another's property is increased.

The other type of hunter just doesn't care where their dogs go or what you think about it. As a matter of fact they would rather their dogs get onto your property and run deer back to them.

Imagine a peaceful Saturday afternoon. You have been waiting all week long to get into that one stand you have benn seeing alot of deer sign on. You have prepared your food plot (boy wasn't that expensive!!!) the wind is going to be perfect, everything is just right. You get settled in early b/c you know the deer will be moving. 30 minutes go by and everything is just as you planned it. Then, wait a minute what do I hear??? Sounds like dogs. Maybe they will stay on their property this time. Getting a little closer, closer, closer. Something just came out of the corner of the field, you throw up your binocs hoping it is a deer you can get a shot at before the dogs ruin your hunt. It is a deer!!! A little basket 6 pt. with his tongue hanging down around his hooves running for his life. Dogs are right on his tail. Can't even shoot him to take him out of his misery b/c we only shoot 8's or bigger. Looks like a Walker dog to me. And here comes his 5 buddies. So you helplessly watch the dogs chase the little 6 pt to who knows where. Now you get look forward to bird watching for the rest of the afternoon b/c the dogs have blown up that field.

Now Bubba and his buddies are lined up on the highway blowing their horns and hollering their dogs out of YOUR property. Thsi goes on for the rest of the afternoons "hunt".

This is pretty much exactly what happened to me this past Saturday, and it ain't the first time....

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It ain't legal here. And conservations officers will shoot any dog seen running big game. And they more then encourage hunters to do the same, especialy on your own property. I had a guy about a half a mile away, who would drop his dogs off at the opposite end of the section, let them flush the deer out of three other peoples property and onto his on the other side. Well, he used to, until I called the Conservation officer, and he gave me a signed note telling me to shoot the dogs if I see them running deer on my land. Saw the dogs running a few does, took pictures, and shot them last deer season.

I hated those dogs. They killed a goat I was raising for a fall roast, bit my fiancee one day when I wasn't around, destroyed close to 50 chickens one year...

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I've been a part of dog hunting on 4 seperate occations, and have had probibly another 15 "dealings" with dog hunters here in Arkansas.

I've never seen it done lelgally or ethically. That is my problem with it. Unless you have vast amounts of land it just simply can not be done in a way that doesn't infringe on other hunters or property owners.

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Can't say as I have ever hunted deer with dogs or seen it done, however, being a pheasant and duck hunter, I can understand how a person could enjoy such practices. I love watching my dog in the field.

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Can't say as I have ever hunted deer with dogs or seen it done, however, being a pheasant and duck hunter, I can understand how a person could enjoy such practices. I love watching my dog in the field.

The difference I see with bird or small game hunting with dogs is the level of control and training of the dogs. The deer dogs I've seen have only one atribute, they chase deer. They are let loose and chase the deer and are otherwise uncontrolled. There is just no way to do it without a ton of land. Most people don't have access to enough land around here to do it without getting on to someone else. The excuse heard most.

My dawgs caint read.:mad:

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The excuse heard most.

My dawgs caint read.:mad:

Afraid we get that here too, but with beagle hounds running rabbits. Get the occasional dog that gets off after a deer too. Bad thing is the hunters following them can read, and they disregard and say it is legal for them to follow their dogs, which it is NOT.

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  • 4 years later...

deer dogging is the biggest nuisance to any other hunting there is..when the clubs start hunting with their dogs all land you own around them that you are minding your own business and trying to hunt gets ruined. I hear arguments for "its a tradition", its my family time, its been done for years, I do all I can to control my dogs but thats all I can do..this all doesn't make it right to have your dogs messing up time with my family. The club beside me has 850 acres to hunt but if they see a good track that goes into another property they will turn their dogs where ever they can no matter how it affects others. There has to be a middle solution to the problem such as every other Saturday to dog hunt during deer season, right now every Saturday is a problem!!!

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Although I have never lived where deer hunting with dogs is legal, I have seen deer that were being pursued by dogs and it is not a pretty sight. It may be legal in some areas but legal and ethical are two different things. No respect for the animal is all I can think. Rabbits can find refuge underground or in a stone fence, game birds can take flight and land in trees. Deer? They can run but they can't hide and they are not distance runners. Trespassing is not legal or ethical. Fair chase? Deer chased to exhaustion must make for some tasty venison, or not so much. There are a lot of "family traditions". Some of them are not right. Of course this is just my opinion and that was the question.

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I have no problem with it, if it's done legally! It's not allowed here. I have a friend that farms in SC, he told me he was raised running dogs, but it wasn't until he started using a climbing stand did he REALLY start having luck. SO, again, please tell me how letting the dog run the deer and shooting them with buckshot is a sound managment practice? BTW, I have coon hunted quite abit, after deer season is closed! Coon hunting you go to the dogs, the dogs don't come to you, SO I highly doubt hunting deer with dogs is harder! Have you EVER climbed a big oak tree with a 22 revolver trying to kick a coon out? P.S. I'll challenge any dog hunter as to the quality of deer you shoot to the quality of deer that I shoot out of stand on a 160 acres!

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The difference I see with bird or small game hunting with dogs is the level of control and training of the dogs. The deer dogs I've seen have only one atribute, they chase deer. They are let loose and chase the deer and are otherwise uncontrolled. There is just no way to do it without a ton of land. Most people don't have access to enough land around here to do it without getting on to someone else. The excuse heard most.

My dawgs caint read.:mad:

i agree... i'd like to try it given the place and situation but around here properties are too chopped up. i believe there's no law here in NY saying you can't but people don't do it for that reason. unfortunately not the dogs fault but they may get shot around here too. people understand the situation around here and keep control of their dogs. people who ignore it and do as they please end up having to find new dogs. those dog owners are just wrong and heartless in that respect. given access to a ranch with the right setup though i bet it'd be a very fun experience.

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