WABS Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Went to the range yesterday with my Christmas present (300 WSM) and started the barrel break-in process. Spent about 1 1/2 hours out there and only shot 7 times, but I enjoyed every one. Boresighted by eye and hit paper at 50 yards no problem. The first three rounds were a bit erratic, but the last four were starting to show some promise as far as grouping goes. Looking forward to getting some more range work in on Jan 23rd. Got football to watch next Sunday since my Vikes lucked out yesterday and won one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbowhntr Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM Congrats on the new gun. The groups will come around once you figure out what bullet the gun likes and the barrel gets broken in. Have fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitrrophybowhunter Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM I haven't been able to shoot my 300 WSM yet.......its setting in the safe calling to me. I need to make some time and have some fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WABS Posted January 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM It will definitely get your attention when you squeeze the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too_pointer Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM Sounds like you have a good start with it. As far as breaking in the barrel, I'm really not sure anymore if it matters that much, I'd be interested on more opinions on that ! Good luck to the Vikes too_pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Colorado Bob Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM I would be interested in seeing which bullet your rifle likes. IMO---the 180 Nolser Partition says "ELK". Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WABS Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM CO Bob -- I actually purchased Nosler Partition bullets for my reloads. I'm starting with a couple of boxes to Federal and Winchester just to get use to the gun and to see how the factory loads do. Then I'll start to work up my load for my MT elk/deer hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM [ QUOTE ] ...due to today's advances in technology, materials, and craftsmanship.. [/ QUOTE ] How is todays factory barrel any better than the barrels of 40 years ago? They are made of the same material and chances are on the same machinery. Hammerforging is nothing new and thats how most of the gun makers make their barrels, other than Savage, which button rifles their barrels. None of the manufacturers lap the barrels, let alone use an air gauge. Factory barrel quality has not changed for the better recently. You would think with today's CNC machining, the actions would be a lot higher quality than they actually are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM whew this is gonna be a big pot to stir!! just kidding I never really figured it was any thing more than just a fluke...but by no means have i ever done any tests of my own. I buy a gun and shoot it. i clean it when i think it needs it or before long periods of storage. and i dont thing a cleaning rod can damage a piece of firearms grade steel. I may be completely wrong but all my guns shoot as good now as when they were new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WABS Posted January 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM All I know is that on the Savage website it gives break in instructions --- now I don't always believe everything that the manufacturer says, but I know I've also seen out here advice to go through a break in procedure. I figure I have nothing to lose since it forces me to spend more range time. Can't go wrong with that and it sure isn't likely to hurt my accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM [ QUOTE ] ...i dont thing a cleaning rod can damage a piece of firearms grade steel. ... [/ QUOTE ] Well, it can when used improperly. Take a soft paper towel for instance. It is much softer than a piece of glass or Lexan, but when the paper towel is used to clean the glass or Lexan without using liquid, the dirt on the surface is what actually scratches the surface. The same with the cleaning rod. The rod picks up pieces of carbon which is very hard and when the rod is used improperly, it will ride against the throat or the crown and will act like sandpaper. It can and does do damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM Nope, just separating fact from fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM hey, i got a Browning BLR .300 WSM in December and i LOVE it!! its a great gun for sure. i shoot Winchester Supreme 180gr Ballistic Tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM [ QUOTE ] You must be careful when using it tho. Crown washout is a very real possibility. For extremely rough barrels...I reccomend Flitz metal polish. Again extreme caution must be used to prevent damaging the crown. But when used properly, both will yield a very nice smooth finish inside the barrel. [/ QUOTE ] Well, JB Bore paste is not an abrasive. It will not harm the bore. Improper use of the cleaning rod will damage the bore but the paste is just a cleaner. It will not remove steel. Many tests have been done and measurements taken to see if metal removal actually occurs. All tests that I know of have come back with zero metal removal. With this being the case, how can a cleaner that does not remove metal, remove tooling marks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WABS Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM I for one would like to hear more about bore lapping and what should and should not be used. I just wanted to also make it clear that I'm not shooting rounds through my rifle just for the sake of break in. My thinking is that I plan to shoot a lot of rounds through anyway, why not do it using a method that was outlined on the Savage webpage? So it takes me a little more time to empty my ammo boxes. Helps insure that I take my time. I'd recommend that someone with knowledge of lapping start a new thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM No idea 280AI. I'll bet dollars to donuts it was not the JB. Do you really think benchrest shooters would use the stuff it is could do that to a barrel? I have used it in my benchrest gun for years and it will still shoot sub 1/4 MOA groups. I keep track of throat measurements in my fast guns. I have not seen an increase in erosion from using JB paste in there either. My loads are designed for specific bullet jump to the lands. As the throat erodes due to fire cutting, I seat the bullets farther out. Sorry Bud, I don't know what to tell ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM Savage doesnt recommend that you break in your rifle they just tell you that some magazine says you should and this is how your supposed to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WABS Posted January 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Re: First Day with the 300 WSM I will admit that the literature that came with the gun did not talk about any kind of break in procedure for the barrel if you go to the website you find this: FAQs: Barrel Break-In Procedure Q. What is the barrel break-in procedure? A. Although there may be different schools of thought on barrel break-in, this is what Precision Shooting Magazine recommends: STEP 1 (repeated 10 times) Fire one round Push wet patches soaked with a powder solvent through the bore Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) Push wet patches soaked with a copper solvent through the bore Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) Push a patch with 2 drops of oil through the bore STEP 2 (repeated 5 times) Fire a 3 shot group Repeat the cleaning procedure from STEP 1 after each group STEP 3 (repeat 5 times) Fire a 5 shot group Repeat the cleaning procedure from STEP 1 They recommend the use of a patch with 2 drops of oil after the cleaning so that you are not shooting with a dry bore. It is also advisable to use a powder solvent and copper solvent from the same manufacturer to be sure they are chemically compatible I guess since they don't say up front that SAVAGE recommends this procedure, you could say they don't recommend this, but I think you'd have to agree that by the fact they put this as an answer to their FAQ, they give it some amount of validity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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